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April 24, 2012 7:25:30 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Tomorrow - next few days.

Budget Range: £450-500 max.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Editing photos and videos (gameplay footage, no 3D modelling etc), rendering videos, gaming, home use.

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Operating System (Windows 7)

Preferred Website for Parts: http://www.pcpartpicker.com/UK is an easy way to find pats, but: amazon.co.uk, dabs, ebuyer, scan.co.uk, maplin too :) 

Country: England

Parts Preferences: just found a retail i5-2500k for £150, is it worth it, might upgrade and OC in future then?

Overclocking: Sure, if fits in pricetag.

SLI or Crossfire: Probably not

Monitor Resolution: 720p for now, will upgrade at some point in future.

Additional Comments: If it can render gameplay video at a good speed (for the price) and as long as games like MineCraft are at decent playable framerates that'd be awesome!
Thanks for any ideas.

More about : 450

April 24, 2012 7:31:59 PM

If you get the i5-2500k, you will not have any money left in your budget after getting the motherboard, ram, CD drive, PSU etc for a graphics card.

I would get a 2120 and a entry level graphics card.
April 24, 2012 7:36:29 PM

What GPU would you recommend? And would it still be okay for rendering the video etc?
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April 24, 2012 8:37:22 PM

That depends on whether your focus is on Video Editing or Playing games. You wrote that you want to edit gameplay footage. What games is this for? In order to edit gameplay, you need to first play the game. So your PC has to be good enough to play the game. So its a balancing act at your price point. More information would be helpful.
April 24, 2012 8:47:08 PM

Most probably MineCraft, then GBA and DS games, Terraria (like a 2D minecraft so to speak) etc, skyrim on medium settings etc perhaps?
Also PS3 gameplay footage caught off of a Hauppauge HD-PVR
By editing, I mean adding in some jump cuts, transitions, checking my audio is okay stuff like that, as long as it will render the hauppauge or fraps files.
April 24, 2012 8:55:01 PM

Then get the faster processor and use onboard graphics. Some of these tasks seem like they should be accelerated by a graphics card, but I cant find any benchmarks to confirm or reject this. But a 2500k would serve you well, and will give you an upgradable platform.
April 24, 2012 8:57:48 PM

What about mobo, psu, etc? :) 
April 24, 2012 9:00:56 PM

since you are spending in Pounds, could you link me the website where you are buying your parts.

EDIT: OK you linked it already, sry!
April 24, 2012 9:24:48 PM

I purposely got one of the best OCing motherboards you can get, because your platform is now very upgradable and robust to OCing.

All prices from amazon:

MoBo: P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 - 138

Vengence 8 gb or RipJaw 8gb DDR3 ram - 40

Power Supply: Corsiar CX430 - 38

Generic DVD Drive: - 12

Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB - 58

Case and Keyboard/mouse : your choice - 50

Total: 488.

Possible Extras:

Graphics -Redon 7750 - 80

Corsair TX 650 Watt PSU- +50 (future upgradabilty to better Graphics)
April 24, 2012 9:39:28 PM

Thanks man, you've helped a lot, would you recommend (for future upgrade I mean) the 7750 over say the 6850?

Also, these are the cheapest I can find the above (using other sites as well as Amazon):
PSU: £67
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/dabs/corsair-power-supply-cm...

CPU: approx £150 with S+H
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Inte...

MoBo: £139
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005T3TLM6/ref=asc_df_B005T3...

Optical: £13
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazonuk/sony-optical-drive-...

Case: £34
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/nzxt-source-210-elite-wh...

Keyboard: £9
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005643PT8/?tag=pcp0f-21

Ram: £40
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengea...

Hard drive: £58
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00461G3MS/?tag=pcp0f-21

That's 510... Doubt I'll be getting that much for my eighteenth tomorrow, I'll try and earn some more cash though and build that, does that sound like a good setup? :) 
April 24, 2012 10:01:43 PM

I wish I could more decisively tell you where to cut down on, but the two problems are that at your price, cutting anything means loss of upgradablity or function and secondly, I dont have access to UK prices apart from amazon.

1. I do not know your storage needs, but you could save some money by buying a 250 or 320 gb hard drive, but it wont be much.

2. You may be able to save a few bucks on a power supply. find one that is >=550 W (so that you can upgrade to any single GPU) and 80 certified. I think Seasonic has a 550 W model, but it might be expensive.

3. You can also leave out the Optical drive for now. You can always buy it later, and install windows through a USB stick.

4. You could go with a cheaper Motherboard for about 100 pounds. The p8z68-v or ASRock extreme 3 would run you 10-30 pounds cheaper than the one I suggested, but you will be giving up on features like PCIE 3.0 and USB 3.0 (if you go for the cheaper asus board) or OC reliability(ASrock)
April 24, 2012 10:07:36 PM

I hear you, if you recommend what you posted above and my links though (the parts) then I'll have to scrape some more cash together and I will purchase :D 

Will the HD3000 be okay for GBA and DS emulation? and running something like FRAPS or Camtasia Recorder on top of it?
They're not too demanding, graphics wise, i would presume :) 
April 24, 2012 10:18:42 PM

HD 3000 should be enough for GBA and DS. It should also be enough for WoW I guess. But before you buy, check out these two articles on Motherboards:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68xp-ud3-dz68db,29...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-z68-extreme4...

and see if you can get a cheaper board. Doing a bit of research and figuring out which features you will need will not only allow you to save some money now, but also make you intimately familiar with the board you buy, which will help when you build your system.

April 24, 2012 10:26:03 PM

Thanks, you've been a super great help, if I had a bigger budget, I'd know exactly what to buy, I'm always reading on the latest and greatest tech, but for a more "budget" system, I have a much smaller grasp :p 
April 24, 2012 10:31:08 PM

Its always challenging to build a budget system. But dont lose hope. I am sure you can get a power supply just as good as the tx650 for a little less, as well as maybe save a bit on a motherboard. My knowledge about the prices of these two components is not completely extensive, hence I encourage you to do a bit of research on your own.

Finally, have you taken into account shipping costs and Tax?
April 24, 2012 10:41:13 PM

Yeah, I have :)  thanks :) 
April 24, 2012 10:48:26 PM

Would it still hit a good 4+GHz with a Hyper 212 Evo (push pull) or something, when I'm ready to splash some more cash on this little beasty processor? :) 
April 24, 2012 11:14:28 PM

It should. There is also the z77 version of the board that I suggested ealier:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-P8Z77-V-LX-Motherboard-Int...

for 100 pounds.

Problem is I dont have reviews for all the new z77 boards, so cant say too much.

Both should OC to 4 easy, probably even on stock cooler. I have a Asus p8z68, and i can vouch for its reilablity, in addition to all the reviews. I would get the p8z77, since it probably has the same make quality. But if you want to save 15 pounds...I dont see much more differerence between the two except the Asus has an extra pcie x4 port...

So I vote ASUS. Good luck!
April 24, 2012 11:16:18 PM

No way will I overclock on the stock cooler, heard way to many fry-out stories aha, but yeah, I will look into those boards, thank you once again, you are a true legend, you've helped so much :) 
April 24, 2012 11:22:07 PM

For GBA and DS games on the PC, the Processor is the biggest factor in how well those games perform. I recommend the i3-2100 as those games don't make use of quad core yet.
April 24, 2012 11:25:03 PM

Thanks for the advice, but I'm super sold on the i5-2500k just because of the potential for upgrades on the gpu, and the overclocking capabilites :) 
Also I probably don't need that extra pci-e x4 bit, so the ASRock looks great to me, :D 
April 24, 2012 11:27:03 PM

Lol, that's what I get for not reading OP carefully; for thinking you need a GPU for Emulator games.
April 24, 2012 11:28:40 PM

Aha, it's my eighteenth birthday now, so I'm looking forward to spending some cash ;D
April 24, 2012 11:30:17 PM

I turned 20 yesterday. :)  Happy Bday. :) 
I spent $1300 on my computer so far. Gonna buy a monitor, gaming keyboard and mouse and headsets, and a game controller. :p 
April 24, 2012 11:32:12 PM

Thanks man, happy birthday for yesterday!
Damn, nice amount of money you spent there! I love gaming on a PC with my PS3 pad, and I'm borrowing my friends Turtle Beaches (he has a Blue Snowball) as he's a YouTuber (so am I) :p 
April 24, 2012 11:33:10 PM

I have planned what headset/kb/mouse to get. :D 
I am also going to get more games. :p 
April 25, 2012 12:05:26 AM

I would get the ASUS. 15 dollars are worth better support, warranty and improved quality parts for OC piece of mind.
April 25, 2012 5:37:27 AM

If that's what you recommend, then sure :D 
April 25, 2012 8:42:59 AM

Tried to catch up on this thread a little but feeling lazy so skimmed over most.

So a build with the i5-2500k is required, and what's the total budget for the build now, £500?

EDIT: Also add www.ebuyer.co.uk to your list of websites. Very competitive prices.

April 25, 2012 8:46:12 AM

Pretty much yeah, kinda have most of it sorted, just not getting a GPU yet.
And also, thanks for replying Adrian ;D
April 25, 2012 9:00:49 AM

Tcshad said:
And also, thanks for replying Adrian ;D


No problem :) 

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CPU: i5-2500k - £150
MOBO: MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) - £70
GPU: 1GB XFX 6870 - £130
PSU: Corsair Builder Series 500w - £45
CASE: Ill leave your NZXT one in here - £34
DVD: Sony AD-7261S-0B SATA DVD-RW - £15
RAM: Corsair Memory 8GB Vengeance Jet Black Low Profile - £40
HDD: Seagate 500Gb 3.5" Barracuda - £56

£540 total.

If really need to cut back on the budget, swap out the 6870 for a 6850 and swap the 8GB 1600MHz RAM for 4GB 1600MHz and this will bring the build down to a solid £500.

(All prices obtained from www.scan.co.uk) - Shop around to get best prices - Keep delivery costs in mind.

April 25, 2012 9:13:43 AM

Just to clarify....Is the build £500 with a GPU? or £500 without a GPU?

£500 without a GPU id change the motherboard and probably add an SSD to the previous build and include a CPU cooler too to make sure the build makes the most of the 2500k.
April 25, 2012 9:40:37 AM

Without a GPU, gonna put money into that in future :) 
Plus keen to keep it as close to 450 as possible, I will add a Hyper 212 evo and other stuff relatively soon :) 
Edit: read that motherboard is not overclock friendly, think I'll stick with the z77 board, rather buy fewer, better parts, and buy add on parts, rather than upgrade, thanks Adrian, Azeem and KullaDoctor
April 25, 2012 10:01:23 AM

CPU: i5-2500k - £150
MOBO: Asus P8Z77-V LX - £99
PSU: XFX Pro Series Core Edition 550w - £48
CASE: Ill leave your NZXT one in here - £34
DVD: Sony AD-7261S-0B SATA DVD-RW - £15
RAM: Corsair Memory 8GB Vengeance Jet Black Low Profile - £40
HDD: Seagate 500Gb 3.5" Barracuda - £56 (could buy a 1TB version for £65 if you wanted the extra storage space)
COOLER: NZXT case IS NOT wide enough to fit a Hyper 212, so here's the cooler I use myself (92mm fan), I've been able to push my i5-2500k to 4.6GHz with this cooler and never seen temps over 80 degree's - Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 - £20

£463 total with 500GB HDD.

Personally I might be tempted to spend a little more on a case, more around the £50 mark, something with better cooling front panel USB 3.0 but it really depends on your own personal preference as to what you do/dont like :) 
Antec 300
Fractal Design Core 3000
Thermaltake Commander
Corsair Carbide Series 300R
April 25, 2012 10:16:51 AM

So would your cooler fit in the NZXT? (I just love that case, don't really know why) :D 
April 25, 2012 10:38:06 AM

Yeah its only a 92mm fan. Cooler is about 13cm tall whereas the 212 is something like 16cm tall. It might fit depending on how much space is left behind the motherboard in the case for cable management ect. Generally a case at least 21cm wide is recommended for the 212 though.
April 26, 2012 9:23:42 AM

I bought the MS-I snow edition of the ThermalTake Commander case, just 'cause it's nice looking :) 
April 26, 2012 1:42:39 PM

Nice choice :)  Not a personal fan of the white cases unless we start talking Corsair 600T (White Edition) sort of price range :p 

But the ThermalTake Commander got some really nice reviews and has some great features for its price :)  so solid choice. http://www.kitguru.net/components/cases/steve-ruxton/th...

How's the rest of the build looking? Got a final components list? Bought anything yet?
April 26, 2012 1:45:24 PM
April 26, 2012 1:53:06 PM

Looking good (Y)

What are your plans for a GPU?

Be sure to throw some pic's up too of either build stages or the finished thing :) 

You might also want to look at grabbing a couple more case fans - as far as I know the ThermalTake only comes with 1 120mm fan. Id certainly consider grabbing two more, 1 rear, one roof and one front. (front intake, rear and roof exhaust).

Some cable ties wouldn't go a miss either, your going to have to serious cable management to do with that non-modular PSU ;-)
April 26, 2012 3:38:58 PM

Yeah I know, I have cable ties, and I'm buying more fans in a few days, gotta wait like 2-3weeks for delivery from Amazon (didn't realize at time, was too excited),
I'll be sure to throw up pics yeah :) 

And for a GPU, probably a 6850 or such at some point in the future :) 
April 27, 2012 9:11:04 AM

2-3 weeks! I thought Amazon provided a better service than that!

GPU - Although the 6850 is 'all right' - id aim either a little higher, GTX 560Ti, or go for a new AMD 7xxx series - from the benchmarks I've seen the 7xxx series benches a fair way above the 6xxx series in newer games. Your PSU is more than capable of powering *any* single card set up you throw at it :) 
April 30, 2012 6:05:06 AM

How about the 7850? Would that be worthwhile?
May 1, 2012 7:43:46 AM

Tcshad said:
How about the 7850? Would that be worthwhile?



Very good card at a really nice price point from what I've heard yeah :) 

Still on the Nvidia 5xx series myself, with no intention of an upgrade since I don't actually use my build for gaming haha! #moneywellspent.
May 1, 2012 10:27:41 AM

Might go cheaper, like 150pound-ish card, 6870 is easily in my budget range, and buy a heatsink as well to overclock a little :) 
May 1, 2012 5:12:47 PM

Wait till the lower end Kepler cards release.
May 1, 2012 6:14:08 PM

Think they'll be released by 1st of June? That's kinda when I'm planning on buying -ish :) 
Cause from what I've seen of the 6 series cards, it was a paper release a long time ago, none are available anywhere.
I will need a graphics card in the <£150 range, the 6870 is easily doable, I'll be running on a 720p monitor for now, and I'm not going for super demanding games, so would the 6870 be the best choice (without kepler)?
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