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First Build - Budget £1000-1400 (~$1500-2100) Final Check-up

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November 10, 2011 9:24:00 PM

Alright guys, I posted a thread a few days ago on what I intended on using as parts and since then, I've been thinking them over and have pretty much decided on some different parts. I have been using a HP Pavilion for the last 3 years, and quite frankly, it's pretty bad - there is a lot of fan noise whenever I attempt to play even a flash game, as well as it's pretty slow and sometimes freezes on me. Considering the amount of time I spend in front of a computer, I might as well spend it in leisure... so what does that mean? It means I want to build a computer that won't become outdated in the next few years - one that is quiet and fast - the only issue is the parts. So let's see if it's any good.

Approximate Purchase Date: 14th November 2011

Budget Range: £1000-1400 (~$1500-2100)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Rendering videos in 1080p, Photoshop, Gaming (BF3, LoL, SC2), Surfing the internet

Parts Not Required: Starting fresh, so I pretty much need everything

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.scan.co.uk (I prefer UK-based websites)

Country of Origin: UK

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to use an AMD CPU & Biostar mobo with a 24" LCD and full tower case)

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Want a relatively quiet computer, that won't become too outdated within the next 5 years or so. Intend to upgrade parts as I go along.

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I am going to buy every part from scan.co.uk - it has a respected delivery service, and cheaper prices than most sites - so if you want to suggest parts, please select them from that site if possible, though if not, it's alright.

Intel Core i7 2700K, S 1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core 3.5GHz, 8MB Cache, HD 3000 IGP 850MHz, 95W, Retail
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i7-2700k-s-11...

I was originally going for an i7 2600K, but since the 2700K just came out recently, I decided it wouldn't be a problem to go for it, as it's only £10 more. Please note: I plan on doing a lot of rendering, which is why I have decided on this for the hyperthreading.

Asus P8P67 PRO Rev.3.1
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8p67-pro-rev31-int...(x16)-atx

It's relatively cheap and very suitable for the CPU. Can have up to 32GB of RAM, which is a nice bonus and it has Bluetooth built in :) 

Corsair Memory Vengeance Black 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel Desktop
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-150v

16GB of RAM should do me for a while - at £82, it's not to be missed.

128GB Crucial RealSSD M4
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-crucial-realssd-m4...

I've looked at a lot of different SSDs, and I can't seem to find anything better than the Crucial M4 - from looking at comparisons in terms of booting up the OS, applications, games - it is the best for its price. Plus it suits my blue theme, which is an added bonus haha.

XFX HD 6950 DD cooling AMD Radeon Graphics Card - 2GB
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-xfx-hd-6950-double-d...(x16)-5000mhz-gddr5-gpu-800mhz-1408-cores-hdmi-2x-dvi-i-2x-

Decent GPU, will suit my needs for a while (I don't really care for playing BF3 at Ultra graphics and at max FPS), and if I ever need to bump it up, I'll just crossfire; simple as that.

Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-e...

Cheap, quiet - what more could I want? (though I am unsure of its size - if anyone owns it, if you could tell me, that would be great)

Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced Black Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-cm-690-ii-a...

Great looking case, has dust filters for all the main areas, and it's inexpensive for what it provides.

Coolermaster SickleFLow Blue LED Quiet Case Fan 120mm
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120mm-coolermaster-sickl...

Plan on getting two of these - really like the Blue LED it gives out.

Corsair Enthusiast TX V2 CMPSU-750TXV2UK 750W Power Supply (PSU)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-psu-corsair-enthusi...

Should be enough power to keep this machine running.

Asus Xonar DG 5.1 PCI Sound Card
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-xonar-dg-51-pci-sou...

Not sure about getting a sound card or not - depends on if the built in one in the motherboard is good enough - if anyone could give me an opinion that would be great.

SAMSUNG SH-S222AB/BEBE
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/samsung-writemaster-sh-s...

Should I consider bumping up to a Bluray player? I don't really watch that many movies, and if I do, it's on the television I have in the living room. I only really need this to install the OS.

OK, that's all I have went out and decided on - I still need to figure out accessories though, so if you could help me decide on the following ones:
Keyboard
Mouse
PC Monitor
Cables (I know I need some SATA III cables for the SSD I plan on installing, but am I forgetting anything?)
Speakers (Possibly?)

Let me know. I'm off to sleep (23:22PM right now - need to wake up early for work), so it would be great to see some responses by the time I wake up haha.

Thanks again,
Eddie

P.S: I also want to know more about cable management - what do I need? Let me know, thanks.
November 10, 2011 9:30:32 PM

RAM - Lose the tall, toothy heat sinks......they are a remnant of a bygone era and have no function on modern DDR3 modules other than to interfere w/ CPU coolers.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-arctic-white-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-135v
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-lp-cerulean-blue-pc3-12800-(1600)-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

GFX - ATI Card for video rendering ? CS5 ?.... ATI don't do CUDA. Usually reserved for workstation cards only (Quadro) and select GeForce cards, you can enable CUDA on any nVidia card

http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5....

Skip the sound card

Keyboard - Logitech G510 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/logitech-g510-gaming-key...

Mouse - Logitech G500 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/sslogitech-g500-gaming-m...

PC Monitor - How important is PhotoShop .... you gonna spend on an IPS ? If serious about the photography, TN just not gonna cut it. Dell U2410, 2411, 2312
http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=Dell+IPS

You'll want to keep the size within a range that you won't see individual pixels. The human eye can discern individual pixels below about 90 - 96 dpi at normal viewing distances....that's about 23 - 24" as ya can see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_pitch

21.5 - 102.5
23.0 - 95.8
23.6 - 93.3
24.0 - 91.8
24.6 - 89.6
27.0 - 81.6

Below 90, the picture looks more and more "grainy" which will not affect gaming so much but will be bothersome doing photo work

Cables - The come in the MoBo box

Cooler - The 2700 runs hot w/ HT .... given ya budget, I'd go bigger and pick a cooler with perfoirmance comparable tot he rest of ya build.

Hyper 212 = $900 System

Scythe Mugen 3 - $1200 System

Thermalright Silver Arrow - $1500 system
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/thermalright-silver-arro...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
November 10, 2011 9:44:36 PM

Try out the native sound chip before you decide on a sound card: you may be surprised that the sound is very near if not equal to a discrete card.
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November 10, 2011 9:44:42 PM

Only thing I would change is to switch back to the 2600K. The ONLY difference is that the 2700K is 100MHz faster at stock. If you are OCing anyways, this really dosnt matter. Save yourself $50.

Keys and mice I would suggest Logitech, unless you are going to spring for a Rat or something exotic. For things like that I suggest going to a brick and moarter store to try a few before buying; there is a wide variety in feels and features for keys and mice, and it is something you will use for the life of several builds, so dont go on someone's opinion about which one to get.

Monitors. There are 2 options for monitors that I suggest. Either buy a good 120+Hz TV, or a monitor with an ips screen. I have been out of the loop for a while on monitors, but a monitor can last for several builds, so get a really nice one that is color correct, and large enough to enjoy. I went out and got a cheap 27" and can never go smaller. It's awesome :) 

You do not NEED specific SATA3 cables as there is little physical difference between it and SATA2 (or SATA1 for that matter). Most drives come with the cable anyways, so unless you are getting a bare drive, want a specific color, or want locking cables, then just use the ones that come with the drive.

Instead of buying PC speakers in specific (unless you have a limited space) then go out and get a decent home theater system to hook up. They are generally better anyways.
November 10, 2011 9:44:49 PM

Keyboard and mouse: Microsoft and Logitech both make decent parts in a range of prices. Others do as well. Selecting these parts aren't that crucial, but I do suggest you get a "gaming" mouse that has thumb buttons on the left side. I used to use wireless, but now I use wired for both. It's less of a hassle as long as you manage your wires in a way they won't get caught/tangled.

Monitor: This is largely going to depend on your budget. Get a 1200p monitor if you can. You'll appreciate the extra screen space in games, and probably more-so in photoshop. I'm not a monitor expert, so I rely heavily on reviews.

Cables: I didn't check, but your motherboard and parts should each come with everything you need, assuming the parts are retail and not OEM.

Speakers: I use a logitech g930 wireless headset. I would absolutely recommend it, but others swear by a solid 5.1/7.1 system and a decent stand alone mic. I live in an apartment so the sound system was out for me. Contrary to what I said about your peripherals, I would recommend wireless if you get a headset. It's nice to be able to use the restroom or get a drink and still hear what your team is saying in chat. The only problem I've had with signal is when I'm near the microwave and it's on.
November 10, 2011 9:53:30 PM

For cable management you need a good supply of zip ties and hold downs and planning.
Bump up to the blue-Ray if you have the extra cash it's not a huge upgrade $40 to $50 more.
You do not need a sound card the onboard is usually HD encoded sound chip and can provide good sound.
I would go up one more step on the psu 850w , you mentioned the possability of crossfire and the 750w is right on the edge of being enough.
Is the only drive going to be the Crucial SSD I don't see another one listed.
You posted a link for 8gb of ram and then below it said you were getting 16gb , are you getting two sets of the Corsair Vengence.
Below are a couple of things for you to check out.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-haf-922-bla...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/zalman-cnps12x-ultimate-...
November 12, 2011 2:50:31 AM

inzone said:
For cable management you need a good supply of zip ties and hold downs and planning.
Bump up to the blue-Ray if you have the extra cash it's not a huge upgrade $40 to $50 more.
You do not need a sound card the onboard is usually HD encoded sound chip and can provide good sound.
I would go up one more step on the psu 850w , you mentioned the possability of crossfire and the 750w is right on the edge of being enough.
Is the only drive going to be the Crucial SSD I don't see another one listed.
You posted a link for 8gb of ram and then below it said you were getting 16gb , are you getting two sets of the Corsair Vengence.
Below are a couple of things for you to check out.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-haf-922-bla...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/zalman-cnps12x-ultimate-...


Yeah, I am only buying a SSD to store my OS and use the HDD in my current desktop in this new build until the prices fall. I'm not too sure about crossfire, as I think the lone 2GB XFX Radeon HD 6950 will suit my needs for a few years... It would not be an issue to spend some more money though. I plan on overclocking the processor to around 4.8GHz, so I'm unsure if 750W will be enough, while also if the CPU cooler I've selected will do a decent job in cooling it.

I plan on getting 16GB, though I know there is only a slight improvement in speed with the extra 8GB, but it's cheap, so I don't care haha. We shall see D:
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