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August 25, 2011 7:24:06 PM

Going to be using this for all the latest games, and all the other general stuff.

Please recommend a system, ebuyer or amazon uk or another good UK retailer preferably please.

More about : 600 gaming prices

August 25, 2011 7:34:27 PM

www.SCAN.co.uk is probably your best friend for UK based purchases. Its usually worth checking Ebuyer aswell as sometimes one site has a deal on, and the other doesnt.

Ok a £600 Build:

CPU i5-2500k £154 (SCAN)
CPU cooler Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev2 £15 (not necessarily needed, depends if you want to Overclock or not) (Ebuyer)
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Z68 £125 (SCAN)
RAM Corsair Vengeance 8GB £41 (SCAN)
PSU 500w Corsair Builder Series £45 (SCAN or Ebuyer)
GPU Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti OC Edition £170 (SCAN)
Optical Drive LiteOn iHAS224 24x DVD±RW £15 (Ebuyer)
HDD Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 £40 (SCAN)

£605 without case

A few money-savers;
Cheaper Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 £106
4GB RAM instead of 8GB: Corsair Memory XMS3 Classic 4GB £23
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August 25, 2011 7:34:51 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Sept 2011


Budget Range: £600


System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, watching movies


Parts Not Required: mouse


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon uk, ebuyer, whatevers the cheapest


Country of Origin: UK


Parts Preferences: no preference


Overclocking: Maybe - if i can do everything (playing the latest games full-max settings) i want with the standard settings then i wont bother OC


SLI or Crossfire: No - in a few years ill have more money so i could just buy the best GPU out at the time


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 - HD GAMING :) 


Additional Comments: Need a good 22inch screen
August 25, 2011 7:35:39 PM

yes sorry about that silver, didnt know i couldnt edit posts -_-
August 25, 2011 7:52:33 PM

AdrianPerry said:
www.SCAN.co.uk is probably your best friend for UK based purchases. Its usually worth checking Ebuyer aswell as sometimes one site has a deal on, and the other doesnt.

Ok a £600 Build:

CPU i5-2500k £154 (SCAN)
CPU cooler Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev2 £15 (not necessarily needed, depends if you want to Overclock or not) (Ebuyer)
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Z68 £125 (SCAN)
RAM Corsair Vengeance 8GB £41 (SCAN)
PSU 500w Corsair Builder Series £45 (SCAN or Ebuyer)
GPU Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti OC Edition £170 (SCAN)
Optical Drive LiteOn iHAS224 24x DVD±RW £15 (Ebuyer)
HDD Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 £40 (SCAN)

£605 without case

A few money-savers;
Cheaper Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 £106
4GB RAM instead of 8GB: Corsair Memory XMS3 Classic 4GB £23


cool thanks for this

Is there much difference between those 2 motherboards

i was originally going with the ATI 6970 and a 750W PSU but if i can get away with a less powerful GPU like the 560 and obviously a lower PSU that will cut quite a lot from the budget


a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2011 8:01:13 PM

Both those motherboards support multiple cards, seeing as you don't want to do that I would go for a cheaper motherboard.
Such as this:
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 £79
http://www.ebuyer.com/269125-gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3-b3-soc...

Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W 80Plus Bronze Modular £55
http://www.ebuyer.com/234911-thermaltake-575w-toughpowe...
I would recommend getting this PSU due to the higher temperature rating (50C vs 30C), higher efficiency and modularity.
August 25, 2011 8:06:35 PM

If you can do a 750w PSU and a 6970 on a £600 budget, go for it :) 

Note: 750w is enough for SLI 560Ti's or Crossfire 6970s, 500w is enough for a single card

As for the boards, they are both actually very similar.
August 25, 2011 8:26:12 PM

Silvune said:
Both those motherboards support multiple cards, seeing as you don't want to do that I would go for a cheaper motherboard.
Such as this:
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 £79
http://www.ebuyer.com/269125-gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3-b3-soc...

Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W 80Plus Bronze Modular £55
http://www.ebuyer.com/234911-thermaltake-575w-toughpowe...
I would recommend getting this PSU due to the higher temperature rating (50C vs 30C), higher efficiency and modularity.


yes this make sense and will save me some money, as long as this build lasts for for the next few years thats all im after. I can build a new system in a few years time so i wont be adding 2 cards etc to keep up with the performance of future technology

thanks for the PSU tip, ill get that one now seeing as im getting a cheaper mobo now

AdrianPerry said:
If you can do a 750w PSU and a 6970 on a £600 budget, go for it :) 

Note: 750w is enough for SLI 560Ti's or Crossfire 6970s, 500w is enough for a single card

As for the boards, they are both actually very similar.


hhahah no way can i do a 750w & 6970 on £600.

im only having the one card so the Thermaltake 575 will do the job
a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2011 9:06:04 PM

Yes it will support an SSD, as all you need for that is a SATA connection, preferably 6Gbps if it is a current (or future) gen SSD.
August 25, 2011 9:07:56 PM

ok cool, i guess i best get the SSD now seeing as i will be installing windows 7 straight away.

Can you suggest a cheap, decent SSD,

am i right to believe that we only install the OS on an SSD?? or do i want to get a bigger sized SSD to install games on too??
August 25, 2011 9:18:15 PM

Also is there any service where i can buy all these parts and have someone build it for me??
a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2011 12:16:39 PM

What you can get onto the SSD depends on the size. If it is a 30-40GB drive then it would be the OS and one or two large-ish programs. If it is a 60-80GB drive then you could get the OS plus quite a few programs, and probably a few games. ~120GB would house all programs and lots of games.

Seeing as you have a Z68 chipset motherboard you also have the option of using your SSD as a cache to store the most commonly used programs to help speed them up.
OCZ Vertex 2 40GB £62
http://www.ebuyer.com/232639-ocz-vertex-2-series-40gb-s...

There are a few websites like this:
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/
Which allow you to customise a build to your liking, but I'm not convinced you will find one of those sites which will be able to match the price/quality of a self build. Plus it is pretty easy to build one yourself, so I'd recommend you do that.
August 26, 2011 12:29:01 PM

I'll re-stress the above, BUILD YOURSELF.

You'll save more money, be more satisfied with the build, and have exactly the parts you want :)  Plus, its good fun :) 
August 26, 2011 6:56:56 PM

ok i guess its good practice to build it myself its just that ive got about 1 hour per night to build it after work and i really just want to start using it right away

Silvune said:
Both those motherboards support multiple cards, seeing as you don't want to do that I would go for a cheaper motherboard.
Such as this:
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 £79
http://www.ebuyer.com/269125-gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3-b3-soc...

Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W 80Plus Bronze Modular £55
http://www.ebuyer.com/234911-thermaltake-575w-toughpowe...
I would recommend getting this PSU due to the higher temperature rating (50C vs 30C), higher efficiency and modularity.


ive read this regarding the cheaper mobo you sugggested

"The board does not support the Hydra chip that the other z68 boards have enabling the fast trans-coding abilities of your new i7, and i5 processors"

is this something i should be concerned about?
August 26, 2011 6:58:23 PM

Silvune said:
What you can get onto the SSD depends on the size. If it is a 30-40GB drive then it would be the OS and one or two large-ish programs. If it is a 60-80GB drive then you could get the OS plus quite a few programs, and probably a few games. ~120GB would house all programs and lots of games.

Seeing as you have a Z68 chipset motherboard you also have the option of using your SSD as a cache to store the most commonly used programs to help speed them up.
OCZ Vertex 2 40GB £62
http://www.ebuyer.com/232639-ocz-vertex-2-series-40gb-s...

There are a few websites like this:
http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/
Which allow you to customise a build to your liking, but I'm not convinced you will find one of those sites which will be able to match the price/quality of a self build. Plus it is pretty easy to build one yourself, so I'd recommend you do that.



yes those are out of my budget, i guess i could get one in a few months time and use it as a cache storage like you suggested so thats ok.

I ll just install Win7 on my 1tb hdd, boot time really doesnt bother me too much
a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2011 7:47:38 PM

peco said:
ive read this regarding the cheaper mobo you sugggested

"The board does not support the Hydra chip that the other z68 boards have enabling the fast trans-coding abilities of your new i7, and i5 processors"

is this something i should be concerned about?

The technology/chip/software that enables fast transcoding on Z68 motherboards (with a discrete GPU installed) is called Virtu. Hydra is a technology that allows AMD and Nvidia GPUs to work together.
You should be concerned by the lack of Virtu if you want to rip DVDs and quickly transcode them to something that could be played on a portable video viewing player. However if you do want to do that without a motherboard that has Virtu, then you can just remove the the discrete graphics card and then connect to the motherboard's display connectors. It's a bit of a hassle, but not impossible.
August 26, 2011 8:47:55 PM

Is there anything else that this mobo will be lacking in?

I can tell you 99% of what my time on this pc will consist of (luckily i wont ever be ripping dvd's)

Playing games
Surfing on the internet
Email
Downloading
Watching videos
Recording DJ Mixes - I will want get a decent soundcard for my music
Playing music via Serato
Video Calling
Photoshop (nothing extensive)
Audacity minor usage

Thats pretty much it

If this mobo can handle all that then i wont have any problems

ps - thanks for all the help so far, ill be purchasing this next week
a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2011 10:28:43 PM

It will be able to handle those things fine.

Some would consider 4 USB 2 ports on the back panel as a bit meagre, but there are plenty of internal headers, which can be accessed with 5.25" bay devices. And none of the other Z68 boards I could find under £100 had any more back panel USB 2 ports.

The other thing it could be said to be lacking is a UEFI Bios.
If you want that then the Asrock Z68 Pro3 meets that requirement.
http://www.ebuyer.com/267316-asrock-z68-pro3-socket-115...

Turns out the Z68A-D3-B3 doesnt have any display connectors. Obviously not a problem if you always use a discrete video card.

Other than that I can't think of anything it is lacking.
August 27, 2011 12:39:17 PM

4 usb ports will be fine, i have serato, keyboard and mouse, so ill have an extra one if needed which is good

Does this mobo come with USB 3.0?? (4 x usb 2.0 & 2 x usb 3.0)

Ive done some research and i cant really see the point of paying an extra £20 for a flashy looking BIOS, i dont ever, ever, ever go into BIOS so it doesnt really bother me.

I think i have now finalized my build with your help.

Are there any other little extras i need to buy when i order it all?? (heatsinks, cables, connectors etc)

Also within the next few month i will likely upgrade the Ram to 12 or 16 gb. Can i fit 4 x 4 gb ram stick on this mobo?? Or do i need buy a 1 x 8gb stick now so i can fit in the other ram at a later stage?

The only thing i need now is a good HD 22" Screen
a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2011 1:13:42 PM

Yes it comes with USB 3.

Do you mind posting your full build as it is at the moment? That would make it a bit easier for me to access what extras you might need.

You should be able to upgrade to 16GB by just installing another 2x4GB set.
August 27, 2011 2:06:12 PM

CPU - i5-2500k - £160

Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 - £79

RAM - Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Vengeance Memory Kit CL9 1.5V - £45

PSU - Corsair 500W CX Series PSU - £45

GPU - Gigabyte GTX 560Ti OC 1GB GDDR5 - £190

Optical Drive - LiteOn iHAS124-19 24x DVD - £14

HDD - Seagate 1TB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III 6Gb/s Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache - £45

Case - Coolermaster HAF 912 Plus Case OR Coolermaster HAF 922 Mid Tower Case - Cant really see much difference between the two.

Total (so far) - £650

Im over budget but i really cant see what i can sacrifice. I guess i could just get a cheaper monitor to make up for it

I did plan on spending around the £720 mark for pc + monitor


a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2011 3:04:45 PM

G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CAS9 1.5V F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL £40
http://www.ebuyer.com/264750-g-skill-8gb-2x4gb-ddr3-160...
Small saving, but it has shorter heatspreaders, which are less likely to cause problems with aftermarket heatsinks if you decide to get one.

There are cheaper GTX 560 Tis available, I think the following is actually the same GPU as the one you've got atm, but is cheaper at scan:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-gigabyte-gtx-560ti-o...

You could also go for a 6870 which you can get for ~£150. Yes it will be step down in performance, but I don't think it will be by that much.

Another small saving would be getting the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB. Which is still one of the fastest 1TB HDDs around. You shouldn't be put off by it 'only' using SATA 3Gbps as mechanical harddrives barely saturate the original SATA spec.

Differences between the 912 and 922 include:
912 has 2.5" drive mounts, removable HDD cage.

You could also get a cheaper case:
Lian Li Lancool PC-K58B £54
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/lian-li-pc-k58b-lancool-...

Fractal Design Core 3000 £52
http://www.ebuyer.com/270598-fractal-design-core-3000-c...

Cooler Master CM 690 II Lite £55
http://www.ebuyer.com/221737-coolermaster-cm-690-ii-lit...

Antec 100 £42
http://www.ebuyer.com/246639-antec-one-hundred-100-case...

If you want to get free shipping at scan and cclonline then make 20 useful posts on bit-tech forums.

I don't think that you need to buy any accessories as everything you need will come with the components.
August 27, 2011 3:31:45 PM

Ok cool ill swap round the RAM and HDD based on your suggestions.

Re GPU - yes you are correct it is £10 cheaper but im not sure if im buying all from SCAN or Ebuyer yet. Ive just listed ebuyer prices atm.

£10 less for the case isnt too much of a problem, i really like the look of the HAF 912 so ill get that one.

Ok so i think that is it, i have my build finalised, tyvm for all the help Silvune

Do i need to buy thermal paste for the build?

Ill have to find a screen this weekend too
a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2011 3:52:26 PM

The stock Intel heatsink will have some preapplied. You could use that. However in some ways it's a good idea to get a tube now which you can use now and in the future. They are quite cheap. If you were to get a tube then I would recommend one of the following:
Zalman STG2
http://www.ebuyer.com/173350-zalman-zm-stg2-super-therm...

Tuniq TX3
http://www.ebuyer.com/169201-tuniq-tx3-high-performance...

Arctic Silver 5
http://www.ebuyer.com/126410-arctic-silver-5-high-densi...
This is one of the highest performing thermal compounds, but it has the disadvantage over the other two of having a length curing time (200 hours) and electrical conductivity, so it is likely to cause problems if it overflows onto the motherboard.
August 27, 2011 4:36:19 PM

ok well thats it , ill be sure to add some onto my order.

Im sure ill be making another post in a few weeks asking some questions as im sure ill bump into a few problems when building it haha

cheers
August 30, 2011 7:40:38 PM

Hey Silvune, one last question mate

Im going to be getting the Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler as i remember in the past with all my DJ equipment powered up i generate a lot of heat behind my desk area and hate having loads of fans whurring away - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS...

I can get a cheaper OEM (no heatsink) i5 2500k so it will be able to afford the watercooler kit

As im getting this water cooler, it probably means i can give a go at OCing the i5 2500.

I just want to check that the 500W is ok for this?
a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2011 8:44:35 PM

Yes you could get an OEM version. Although I don't think it will be that much cheaper.
Yes the 500W PSU will be enough for you to add a fan and pump.
Speaking of pumps, that can be a whole other noise source, in addition to the fan. The review that SPCR did of the Corsair H50 in the audio recordings that they provided the pump noise was quite terrible. It is possible that there was something wrong with their sample. It also might be possible that it would have been less clearly heard if the environment they tested in wasn't so quiet. Personally I wouldn't want to take the risk.
Admittedly SPCR tested the H20 620 and didn't find any issues with its pump noise.

However it is also a myth that 'water coolers' are always better than air coolers in terms of temps. And you can get some very good ones cheaper than those sealed units.

With a convention metal heatsink the only thing you have to worry about is fan noise.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/03/10/antec_khler_h...

Thermalright Archon £44
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/thermalright-archon-120-...
I've seen tests where this outperforms the NH-D14, which is considered by most people to be the best air cooling heatsink available.

Not much of a saving so you could also go for this:
Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme Rev.C £33.58
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/thermalright-ultra-120-e...
Thermalright TY-140 £7.76
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/140mm-thermalright-ty-14...

Obviously feel free to keep the H20 620, but I wanted to make sure you weren't buying blinded by any myths.

If you are buying from OCUK then consider getting the IC Diamond thermal compound, which is very good, altho a ~5g tube is lot more expensive than competitors.

If you want your build to be quiet then I think you are more likely to be bothered by the fans in the case, but if they do bother you then you should be able to replace them with quieter ones quite easily or take other measures to reduce noise.
August 30, 2011 9:47:51 PM

wow very interesting, i never knew fan coolers were anywhere near as good as watercooling systems

Really im just looking for the quietest, most efficient cooling system

the Archon is HUGE however and i wonder if that could disrupt the flow of air in the case.

i think ill do some research to find a good cheap quiet cooling system

thanks for the help yet again dude
September 1, 2011 11:31:36 PM

Ok all ordered, had to change a few things due to stock, this would have been about £20 cheaper if they had the items i wanted but the extra few quid doesnt matter, i kept to approx £600 for the pc which is what i needed. I decided to go for the water cooler as i wasnt sure if the massive air coolers would cause a problem when installing, and i couldnt get hold of the lower profile gskill ripsaw ram's. Doesnt matter though, ive always wanted to give water cooling a go :) 

Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155 1 £133.15
8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance 1 £37.80
500W PSU, Corsair Builder Series CM 1 £37.50
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, S 1 £33.29
Gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3-B3, Intel Z68, 1 £62.68
1GB Gigabyte GTX 560Ti OC, 40nm, 40 1 £149.56
LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±R, 8x DVD 1 £12.59
----------------------------------------------------------
Net Total £466.57
Carriage £8.99
VAT £95.11
Total £570.67


Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced Dom 1 £59.98
24" BenQ G2420HD Wide LCD Monitor,H 1 £110.24
Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercoole 1 £37.62
----------------------------------------------------------
Net Total £207.84
Carriage £23.97
VAT £46.36
Total £278.17


Grand Total - £848.84

September 2, 2011 7:50:18 AM

Very nice build :)  and very similar to my own.

You've done well to get what you have for £848 monitor included!! Especially with the huge TAX they shove on everything here in the UK :) 

Have fun building (Y)

If you get stuck or feel like theres something you don't know how to do, either ask on here, or check out NewEgg's youtube channel. They do a BIG 3 part video series building a computer from scratch.

EDIT: Out of interest, where did you find the SpinPoint F3 for £33?! Thats really cheap.
September 2, 2011 12:11:15 PM

yes its coming saturday and i have a 4day weekend so im very excited to start building it, will be my first time building a pc too, im sure ill be posting on here with my problems haha

Everything was ordered from scan.co.uk

Ber in mind those prices listed are BEFORE tax so its not £33 more like £40 (inc tax)

the grand total is with tax and im very happy with what i got for the money i paid.

Scan came out £5-10 cheaper on every product in comparison to the other big stores so i would definitely recommend them
!