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AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T 3.2GHz Black Edition or Intel® Core™ i5-760

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August 9, 2011 8:18:03 AM

whats better
AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T 3.2GHz Black Edition with M5A87 or M5A97
or
Intel® Core™ i5-760 with P8P67-E LX

and what ram does each mobo support

Here's the current system im building

PowerSupply: OCZ GameXStream 600W PSU
Mobo:Will be decided according to CPU
RAM:Will be decided according to Mobo
Case:NZXT Guardian 921 RB Blue LED Case
Monitor:Samsung SyncMaster BX2031 20 inch LED LCD monitor(1600x900 max res)
GraphicsCard:MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GDDR5
HardDisc: Western Digital (WD) Caviar BLUE WD5000AAKX 500GB SATA 6GB/s 16MB Cache HDD
besides the speakers,mouse,keyboard and DVD Drive that have nothing to do with compatability
August 9, 2011 8:29:43 AM

That motherboard will not support the i5 760. If you will overclock and gaming is most important then the i5 is the way.

But why don't you choose a sandy bridge i5?
August 9, 2011 8:30:31 AM

Core i5-760 doesn't go with P8P67 motherboard, sockets don't match. And don't go for older Core i5/i7, anyway. Go for Core i5-2500k. Or a Quad Core Phenom II X4. Six-core is useless for gaming.
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August 9, 2011 8:33:11 AM

That was almost a twin post. :) 
August 9, 2011 8:35:17 AM

well if im getting the i5 i can only get the 760 cos of budget but i think i can get the quad core phenom u talking bout and 1 more thing why wouldnt the mobo support the i5 aint the CPU 1156 o.O
August 9, 2011 8:39:13 AM

The cpu is 1156 but the motherboard is 1155 (current sandy bridge socket). And you're talking about the phenom x4 955?
August 9, 2011 8:41:15 AM

P7P55D-E LX - LGA 1156 thats the mobo
August 9, 2011 8:47:44 AM

Ja that will work with a 760
August 9, 2011 8:51:45 AM

thats not my point i meant should i get a amd processor or intel 1
August 9, 2011 8:55:09 AM

Okay then if you won't get a sandy bridge then get a phenom x 955 with a amd+ motherboard.
August 9, 2011 8:57:50 AM

well if amd is better then i will get it im asking which one is better for gaming
August 9, 2011 9:02:02 AM

I think the i5 760 is better then the 6 core at gaming. Or only if It's overclocked. I have not seen direct comparisons.
August 9, 2011 9:04:21 AM

i wanna cut down the budget a lil bit so i was thinking i could get a amd processor so i only need to know if there is a amd processor better than i5-760 2.8 GHz for gaming

i can get i5-2400 aswell with a asus P8H67-M LE or LX
August 9, 2011 9:52:12 AM

If the i5 2400 is within your budget range, then that is the best, by far, of those you have listed, and is a great CPU if you have no intention of overclocking.

You can take a look at Anandtech CPU Benchmark for a general guideline of how the different CPUs perform.
August 9, 2011 10:00:07 AM

lothdk said:
If the i5 2400 is within your budget range, then that is the best, by far, of those you have listed, and is a great CPU if you have no intention of overclocking.

You can take a look at Anandtech CPU Benchmark for a general guideline of how the different CPUs perform.

i did check that out and idecided to stick to the i5-2400 now i need to know which mobo shud i get i checked out ASUS P8H61-M LE/USB3 Socket LGA1155 motherboard and H67 one but i think the difference between the 2 is the onboard graphics if so ill get the H61 and i still need to know what ram is supported by that mobo cos i got a fine 2 GB deal for 15 usd kingston 1 if so ill get 2 of em or 3 if the mobo supports triple channel

Edit:
just discovered that H61 dusn have 6GBs sata so i guess ill get the H67
August 9, 2011 12:59:26 PM

i built an i5-2400 with p8h67-m pro and it runs great. That motherboard has all the features you will need. I would highly recommend that build against amd or older i5 if you're intention is gaming...
August 9, 2011 1:14:56 PM

^ Second that. P67 chipset >> H67/H61.

@OP: RAM support usually is not an issue nowadays, most Kingston/Corsair/G.Skill/etc. chips are supported. 2GB is too little nowadays... get 4-8.
August 9, 2011 7:53:25 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
^ Second that. P67 chipset >> H67/H61.

@OP: RAM support usually is not an issue nowadays, most Kingston/Corsair/G.Skill/etc. chips are supported. 2GB is too little nowadays... get 4-8.

if the mobo supports 3 of it im getting 3 if not ill get 2 its a Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 v1.5
August 10, 2011 1:51:12 AM

Triple-channel RAM is only supported in X58 chipset - aka older i5/i7. P67 or Z68 only support dual-channel RAM. You CAN put 3 sticks of RAM there, but you won't see any advantage... So go with 2.
August 10, 2011 2:20:23 AM

Ram:Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 v1.5 x 2
Mobo:ASRock Z68 Pro3 Motherboard
Harddrive:Western Digital (WD) Caviar BLUE WD5000AAKX 500GB SATA 6GB/s 16MB Cache HDD
Speakers:Creative SBS A320 2.1 Speakers
GPU:MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GD5
Monitor:Samsung SyncMaster BX2031 20 inch LED LCD monitor
Case:NZXT Guardian 921 RB Blue LED Case
Processor:Intel® Core™ i5-2400 3.1GHz Processor
PSU: OCZ GameXStream 600W PSU or Thermaltake TR2 500w TR-500P PSU

so these parts would fit 2gether
August 10, 2011 3:23:47 AM

They would fit; however, it'd be nice if you could post your total budget and the prices for these parts... I'm sure we could offer a few suggestions on what can be improved. Seems quite good so far, though.

P.S. You won't see a difference between Z68 boards and P67 boards unless you're using SSD. And P67 boards are usually cheaper. So post your budget and we'll see.
August 10, 2011 5:18:28 AM

Ram:Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 v1.5 x 2 180 EGP , 30 USD
Mobo:ASRock Z68 Pro3 Motherboard 875 EGP, 147 USD
Harddrive:Western Digital (WD) Caviar BLUE WD5000AAKX 500GB SATA 6GB/s 16MB Cache HDD 240EGP, 40 USD
Speakers:Creative SBS A320 2.1 Speakers 120 EGP, 20 USD
GPU:MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GD5 1260 EGP, 211 USD
Monitor:Samsung SyncMaster BX2031 20 inch LED LCD monitor 775 EGP, 130 USD
Case:NZXT Guardian 921 RB Blue LED Case 450 EGP, 75.5 USD
Processor:Intel® Core™ i5-2400 3.1GHz Processor 1150 EGP, 193 USD
PSU: OCZ GameXStream 600W PSU 375 EGP, 63 USD (out of stock ill search for it somewhere else might be a bit expensive)
or Thermaltake TR2 500w TR-500P PSU 420 EGP 70.5 USD
Another Mobo:ASUS P8H67-M LE Socket 1155 motherboard 750 EGP 126 USD

Total Price(OCZ PSU, Z68 Mobo):5465 EGP, 916.8 USD
i can add like 100 EGP 17 USD wont make a difference

i dont think this ram would be good for gaming
August 10, 2011 6:19:18 AM

Any good 1333 MHz RAM will do for gaming... it's just that you should try to get 8 GB instead, but 4 GB should be fine, too. I'd go with the P67 mobo and a 600W PSU... also, you can try and look for good deals, adding 17USD will allow you to get Core i5-2500K, maybe... And I'm not sure, but I think you can do better than GTX 460 (which is still good, though) for $210 - for that money, you can get GTX 560 Ti.

Unless, of course, your country has the same problem like mine: old hardware doesn't get cheaper fast and new one costs double the normal price...
August 10, 2011 6:35:18 AM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Any good 1333 MHz RAM will do for gaming... it's just that you should try to get 8 GB instead, but 4 GB should be fine, too. I'd go with the P67 mobo and a 600W PSU... also, you can try and look for good deals, adding 17USD will allow you to get Core i5-2500K, maybe... And I'm not sure, but I think you can do better than GTX 460 (which is still good, though) for $210 - for that money, you can get GTX 560 Ti.

Unless, of course, your country has the same problem like mine: old hardware doesn't get cheaper fast and new one costs double the normal price...


the 560 ti costs alot more wont be able 2 get it
based on what u said this would be the build:
Ram:2xKingston 4GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 v1.5
HDD:Western Digital (WD) Caviar BLUE WD5000AAKX 500GB SATA 6GB/s 16MB Cache HDD
Speakers:Creative SBS A320 2.1 Speakers
GPU:MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GD5
Monitor:Samsung SyncMaster BX2031 20 inch LED LCD monitor
Case:NZXT Guardian 921 RB Blue LED Case
Processor:Intel® Core™ i5-2400 3.1GHz Processor
Mobo:ASUS P8H67-M LE Socket 1155 motherboard
PSU: OCZ GameXStream 600W PSU

if you have any last suggestions tell me if not could u confirm the build for me cos it drives me crazy when ppl abandon the post when i post a final build info
August 10, 2011 12:04:45 PM

Fine, leave the 460... still a great card.. what resolution is that 20'' screen, by the way?

Are you sure you can't upgrate to 8GB instead of 4? (2x 4GB)

Don't rush it. Better to spend a couple more days looking for advice than be sorry that you bought the wrong parts :) 
August 10, 2011 12:15:55 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Fine, leave the 460... still a great card.. what resolution is that 20'' screen, by the way?

Are you sure you can't upgrate to 8GB instead of 4? (2x 4GB)

Don't rush it. Better to spend a couple more days looking for advice than be sorry that you bought the wrong parts :) 

ive been searching for parts for like 10 days as for the 8 gb they will cost 360 EGP 60 USD which is a very good deal might not find this for the same price l8er on so im getting 2x4 GB yeah as for the resolution its 1600x900
August 10, 2011 12:55:15 PM

Good, get the 8GB... Your 1600x900 resolution means that there will be less stress on the graphics card than there would be with, say, 1920x1080. So even 460 will manage to play most of the games on medium-high settings.

About your case... there're only 3 fans there (front, rear and side). Could you try to find a case with more fans, like 4 or 5? Check Cooler Master and Antec, too...
August 10, 2011 1:03:30 PM

cant get another case cos of budget besides the 3 fans are placed in good places 4 or 5 fans means hell alot more well if u know a good 1 that costs a lil bit more would be great

found a 4 fan case at a good price its a NZXT Lexa S case
August 10, 2011 6:03:28 PM

Doesn't have to be more expensive... it's just that I think there're cheaper cases with more fans. How much is the Cooler Master Gladiator 600 in your country, for example? 5 fans, and it should be normally rather cheap...

EDIT: Lexa S looks like good cooling and all but one fans are included. How much? Also, find some reviews on it... I like the looks of it, would've swapped it for mine any day =)
August 10, 2011 9:18:56 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Doesn't have to be more expensive... it's just that I think there're cheaper cases with more fans. How much is the Cooler Master Gladiator 600 in your country, for example? 5 fans, and it should be normally rather cheap...

EDIT: Lexa S looks like good cooling and all but one fans are included. How much? Also, find some reviews on it... I like the looks of it, would've swapped it for mine any day =)

the gladiator has only 2 fans included as for the lexa it has 4 included and 5 slots and it costs like 3.5 USDs more than the nzxt guardian 921 rb
August 11, 2011 4:11:21 AM

^ I know that Gladiator has only 2 fans included, but I'm asking you how much it costs.

If Lexa S costs only 3.5 USD more than the Guardian, go for it! Look for some reviews first, though, might be some drawbacks - who knows?
August 11, 2011 4:25:07 AM

i checked reviews every1 rated it 9 to 10 as for the gladiator it costs 63 USD
August 11, 2011 5:54:41 AM

I see... then go for Lexa S! Adding 2 fans to the Gladiator will probably cost you more than Lexa S.

Another question: what kind of ambient temperature do you have in your room? (Only in Celsius, please... I LOATHE Farenheit) If you live in a very hot country, you might need to get a better CPU cooler in case your ambient temps will prevent good CPU cooling...

How about i5-2500K? How much does it cost?

Also, are you planning to add another graphics card later (SLI)?
August 11, 2011 6:14:41 AM

my country's weather is a lil bit hot but i got the air conditioner on most of the time well maybe ill get a cooler next summer cos weather is gonna be cold in the upcoming monthes wont really need a cooler besides next year it will cost less the 2500k costs 33.5 USDs more and im not planning to add another card

Edit:I was planing to run BF3 maxed out at what resolution can i do that when i have like 30-40 fps and btw i used to play crysis warhead on a 512 mb ram Geforce 6200 so im used to trash in games im currently playing ghost recon aw2 on mobile intel 4 series chipset family(trash gpu)

Another Edit:Just checked BF3 blog and some other famous system requirments site they both ve listed the gtx 460 as the minimum for max settings no aiming for crysis 3 maybe i would be able to run it on medium settings well who knows it ll be using DirectX12 maybe ill get another gpu on that time 2 years l8er i mean
August 11, 2011 10:34:41 AM

Since you'll be running 1600x900, you'll manage to pull off better settings than they say, 'cause they're talking about 1920x1080, usually. If you can try and squeeze i5-2500k into your budget, that'd be great.

Since you're not planning to add another card, your motherboard is just fine.

I'm also used to trash in games... I was gaming on Intel 945GM 128MB for 3 years, lol. So I understand you... If you play around with settings, you can achieve a lot. Toggle V-Sunc, disable shadows... it'll be fine.

August 11, 2011 10:38:27 AM

i would play BF3 at any res just to make it work on max settings my current monitor is 1 of those whitie monitors with 800x600 max res its was manufactured in the 90s yea and thnx for your help

Edit:i think i can get the 2500k ill jus use my old DVDDrive and old speakers its a creative SBS380 so u think i should go for it

well afterall i dont think i can cos i still need mouse and keyboard besides by the time the 2400 wouldnt be able to run games at high performance the 2500k will be cheap and not worth buying anyway
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