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July 19, 2011 7:39:41 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Tomorrow is when I'd like to forward some links to my dad to order for us:) 


Budget Range: £500 - £500 would prefer to keep it as low as possible:) 


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming. Only. I have a laptop for work:) 


Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, speakers, HDD and disc burner oh and monitor


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: UK, Amazon, Scan? Not that fussed as long as its uk:) 


Country of Origin: Wales (UK)


Parts Preferences: Sandy bridge intel i5 2500 (IF POSSIBLE ON MY BUDGET, also can someone explain what the difference between the i5 2500 and i5 2500k is??)


Overclocking: I don't know, is it hard? worth it?


SLI or Crossfire: Can someone explain this to me?


Monitor Resolution:Sorry unknown at the moment.


Additional Comments: I would like to be able to play Guild Wars 2, SC 2, Battlefront 3, MW3, Crysis 2, things like that. Is this possible on my budget? Thanks for any input!:) 

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July 19, 2011 8:18:21 PM

have a look here you can configure your own pc

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=4...

start with the 4th on the list its got the 2500k cpu

theres probably no option to remove hard drive and dvd drive but it should give you an idea what things cost--not sure its do-able on your budget but they have other cpu options as well

remove the overclocking option to save £25 you can overclock the 2500k cpus very simply yourself

sli/crossfire means using 2 graphics cards instead of one
a b 4 Gaming
July 19, 2011 8:22:16 PM

a system based around something like this:

corsair 4gb 1600Mhz ram:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR3/D...

i5-2500K: £163
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251596

GigaByte Z68 board: £76.79
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/...

the XFX 6870: £127.00
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244474

corsair CX500 PSU: £42.95
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplie...

thermatake V3 Case: £28.79
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/MIDI+To...

ill do a better list when i get time.

thats £189.54 + £290.71 = £480.25
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July 19, 2011 8:29:39 PM

Ok first question K and non-K. K basically means unlocked. This allows for Overclocking.

Second, overclocking - Generally speaking, no its not too hard to do. Many newer motherboards come with "automatic" overclocking software that does it for you.

Ok onto the build:

i5-2500k (£163) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251596
Asus P8P67 LE R3 (£78) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/260187
XFX HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 (£127) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244474
Corsair 500W CX Series PSU (£45) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240999
G-Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600mhz (£32) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240501
Seagate 500GB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III (£30) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/252857
Casecom 6788 Black Mid Tower Case (£28) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

Total £503

The only thing i can think of thats missing is a Aftermarket CPU cooler. However this would only be necessary if overclocking.
I also haven't included an OS.

Im sure others will tweak this set up, but it gives you a basic idea of whats on offer for an i5-2500K set up :) 
July 19, 2011 8:44:33 PM

i assumed you were not planning to build it yourself because of some of the questions you asked were rather basic thats why i gave the link to overclockers uk as they build it for you--the parts from ebuyer would require you to build it yourself--building it yourself probably saves about £40 or £50

excuse my assumption if you are able to build it yourself

July 19, 2011 8:51:48 PM

Ah thanks, I don't need an OS, forgot to put that in I'll edit it in now:) 

Question, what's more important out of CPU and GPU for running games like Crysis and up and coming games? I mean, would it be better for me to get an i3 and a better GPU than having a i5 and a worse GPU?

Kind of irrelevant but might as well ask it now: a person I know claims to have 24GB of ram. Is that completely unnecesary or is it possible he needs that much for somethings? OR is he just lying? I've been using 2GB ram laptops most of my life and only thing it can't do is newer games, but only now are games starting to need around 4gb of ram? SO WTF?

And lastly, AdrianPerry and ps3hacker12, you both listed mobo's the same price, does anyone know which is better? Which is more upgrade-proof? Thanks for the help everyone, I'm so out of my depth here, but I'm only allowed a gaming pc if I build it myself, educational purposes apparently:D 
July 19, 2011 8:56:20 PM

Wouldn't let me edit my above post:s
To Mcnumpty, it's a kind of project with my Dad and he's built PC's before and I have some friends who've been PC gaming/building for a long time:) 
a b 4 Gaming
July 19, 2011 8:59:08 PM

aNocturtle said:
Ah thanks, I don't need an OS, forgot to put that in I'll edit it in now:) 

Question, what's more important out of CPU and GPU for running games like Crysis and up and coming games? I mean, would it be better for me to get an i3 and a better GPU than having a i5 and a worse GPU?

Kind of irrelevant but might as well ask it now: a person I know claims to have 24GB of ram. Is that completely unnecesary or is it possible he needs that much for somethings? OR is he just lying? I've been using 2GB ram laptops most of my life and only thing it can't do is newer games, but only now are games starting to need around 4gb of ram? SO WTF?

And lastly, AdrianPerry and ps3hacker12, you both listed mobo's the same price, does anyone know which is better? Which is more upgrade-proof? Thanks for the help everyone, I'm so out of my depth here, but I'm only allowed a gaming pc if I build it myself, educational purposes apparently:D 


an i3 and a better GPU would give better gaming performance, but the 2500K provides overclocking if needed in the future, 24GB ram is ridiculous unless he does very large scale engineering models its a waste, 4gb 1600Mhz ram is more than enough for todays games and with background applications.

the Z68 chipset is better for the future if you plan on adding an SSD, and hold some other advantages over the P67 chipset (it will allow you to use the integrated graphics if you choose to remove your graphics card and lucid virtu).

with your budget, if your looking to go towards intel remember to go for the second gen sandy bridge i-series (LGA1155).

although there is an advantage of the 2500K in many games, the i3 will provide good gameplay (especially compared to some of the quad core phenoms):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=289

for games such as WoW which are more CPU demanding i would reccommend a 2500K.
July 19, 2011 9:00:50 PM

As far as i know the motherboards are more or less the same. The difference between P67 and Z68 (mainly) is that Z68 boards can utilize Intel Smart Response technology (SSD Caching). Other than that, the features are very similar and both are reputable brands.

As far as CPU/GPU goes, the GPU will make more difference to frame rate in games than CPU will. I've little knowledge of how an i3 works for gaming so i cant really advise you there.

Also RAM - No 24GB will mostly likely do nothing at all unless he's running something that requires some insane memory. Most applications on Windows will never use more than 4GB, games also only generally utilize 4GB. The reason people usually go for 8GB currently is that RAM prices arent too much different, 8GB "future-proofs" your system for a minor price difference. Chances are using your computer for gaming / as a regular home user, your system will never use more than 4GB. 32-bit Operating systems only recognise 4GB RAM even if more is installed. Also windows HOME editions only support up to a maximum of 16GB. You would need Professional or higher to use more.

Long Story short - 4GB is enough. If you really want to add more in the future, you still have 2 RAM slots free to put another 2GB sticks in.

July 19, 2011 9:24:51 PM

ok no problem--shame you are in a hurry as you can save money by using companies that offer to price match--a few hours of trading one company off against another can result in a fair saving if the same component is cheaper on one web site the other will try to beat it--as what normally happens is if you find the cheapest possible prices for the components you want you end up with like 6 delivery charges so lose the savings but if you tell company a --for example tekheads uk that scan uk will sell you the same part £20 cheaper they will offer to beat it and so on--i got my latest build down from just under £1200 to just over £1000 by spending 4 or 5 hours doing it--they do require a link to the cheaper price and do check its genuine obviously--but if you are on a tight budget you may benefit from doing this

also companies like aria and overclockers do one day specials on certain items--overclockers uk do their special offers on a wednesday every week so one or more of the items you want may appear on there tomorrow
a b 4 Gaming
July 19, 2011 9:41:45 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
ok no problem--shame you are in a hurry as you can save money by using companies that offer to price match--a few hours of trading one company off against another can result in a fair saving if the same component is cheaper on one web site the other will try to beat it--as what normally happens is if you find the cheapest possible prices for the components you want you end up with like 6 delivery charges so lose the savings but if you tell company a --for example tekheads uk that scan uk will sell you the same part £20 cheaper they will offer to beat it and so on--i got my latest build down from just under £1200 to just over £1000 by spending 4 or 5 hours doing it--they do require a link to the cheaper price and do check its genuine obviously--but if you are on a tight budget you may benefit from doing this

also companies like aria and overclockers do one day specials on certain items--overclockers uk do their special offers on a wednesday every week so one or more of the items you want may appear on there tomorrow


yeah this^ and also many sites such as Dabs, Ebuyer and Novatech offer free postage, so it may seem like they are more pricey than websites such as overclockersUK but if you work it out its actually cheaper.
July 20, 2011 8:17:08 AM

Bought every component of my build from ebuyer. Other websites seem cheaper, but when you add VAT and Postage, ebuyer always works out cheaper since their prices include VAT and postage is free :) 

Next day delivery service from Ebuyer is also fantastic, costs a little bit, but you can order any time up to like 11pm and it will still be delivered next day.
July 20, 2011 10:42:34 AM

ps3hacker12 said:
a system based around something like this:

corsair 4gb 1600Mhz ram:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR3/D...

i5-2500K: £163
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251596

GigaByte Z68 board: £76.79
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/...

the XFX 6870: £127.00
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244474

corsair CX500 PSU: £42.95
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplie...

thermatake V3 Case: £28.79
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/MIDI+To...

ill do a better list when i get time.

thats £189.54 + £290.71 = £480.25



Use this build BUT change the i5 2500k for either the 2500 if you aren't interested in overclocking or save EVEN MORE money by going to the i3 which is totally sufficient for all modern games. The money you saved could be used to get a better card, possibly a HD6950.
July 20, 2011 1:20:11 PM

Thank you:)  Going to order the case, the Z68 and the RAM tonight and hoping to order the more expensive things next week:) 

I've decided on the intel i5 2500 UNLESS, there's a way I can overclock a cheaper i3 2100 so it's more powerful than the i5 2500 non-overclocked? Does that make sense?
a b 4 Gaming
July 20, 2011 1:22:27 PM

aNocturtle said:
Thank you:)  Going to order the case, the Z68 and the RAM tonight and hoping to order the more expensive things next week:) 

I've decided on the intel i5 2500 UNLESS, there's a way I can overclock a cheaper i3 2100 so it's more powerful than the i5 2500 non-overclocked? Does that make sense?


you cannot overclock the 2500 or the i3-2100. but they are still good even though they cannot overclock (i would reccommend spending a bit more on a 2500K so you can overclock in the future if you need it). the difference is only £6, which is definetely worth it.
July 20, 2011 1:24:02 PM

aNocturtle said:
Thank you:)  Going to order the case, the Z68 and the RAM tonight and hoping to order the more expensive things next week:) 

I've decided on the intel i5 2500 UNLESS, there's a way I can overclock a cheaper i3 2100 so it's more powerful than the i5 2500 non-overclocked? Does that make sense?


Unfortunately you cannot overclock the 2100. If you are determined to overclock then just buy the 2500k. It's not THAT much more and probably comes within your spending. You could have a look around on Ebay. I picked up a i7 2600k for £175 which is a £50 saving on the market price. Also got a 580 GTX for £275 when it is priced at £350.

Just need patience.
a b 4 Gaming
July 20, 2011 1:39:33 PM

mekunekud said:
Unfortunately you cannot overclock the 2100. If you are determined to overclock then just buy the 2500k. It's not THAT much more and probably comes within your spending. You could have a look around on Ebay. I picked up a i7 2600k for £175 which is a £50 saving on the market price. Also got a 580 GTX for £275 when it is priced at £350.

Just need patience.


lol thats what i did too, got my 2500K for £140 and my GTS450 EVGA superclock for £60, cant see many 2500Ks on ebay right now, but there are a few:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-i5-2500k-3-3ghz-6MB-Cac...

just search around a bit:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66...

amd 6870:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XFX-ATI-Radeon-HD-6870-1024MB...
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