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a b B Homebuilt system
July 5, 2011 6:32:05 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within 3 weeks


Budget Range: £450 with some leniency


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video editing/animation - gaming - music creation - Watching videos/Internet/General tomfoolery


Parts Not Required: Keyboard - mouse - monitor - speakers - OS


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: ebuyer.com


Country of Origin: England, UK


Parts Preferences: None


Overclocking: No


SLI or Crossfire: Don't know


Additional Comments: Would like the option to use a second monitor but it's not important. Also, potential for 7.1 sound.


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AMD Phenom II X4 955

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190673

Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 AMD 870 Socket AM3+

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/262269

G-Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264746

Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146252

LiteOn iHAS224 24x DVD±RW

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190838

ASUS HD 6850 Direct CU

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244442

XFX 550W Core Edition

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264380

Casecom 6788

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779





Thinking about switching the RAM out for http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

And also the Hard drive for http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804


Any thoughts would really help me out, as I said this is my first build so I'm not sure about what else I'll need, Do I need to buy any cabling/screws or specialised tools?

Thanks for your help

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a b B Homebuilt system
July 5, 2011 7:31:31 PM

here are some parts that would be cheaper for better performance/equal performance:

CX600 Corsair PSU £49:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplie...
4gb corsair 1600Mhz ram: £30
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR3/D...
phenom 955: £81
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/AMD+...
same board: £64
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/...
and you will need atleast one on these for the rear of your case:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151390

there is also space for another 140mm or 120mm fan at the top of your case but thats optional.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 5, 2011 9:10:36 PM

Would you say that set up would be better than this http://i.imgur.com/h3klf.png ?

Ignore the SSD in that.
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July 6, 2011 12:43:52 AM

Any PC built primarily for video editing or animation at a budget of £450 will disappoint.

Nevertheless, what you want is a very fast CPU and as much RAM as you can get hold of (I mean it - but make sure your software is all 64 bit!).

You will also need lots of fast storage, so a RAID array is appropriate. You can put two WD Caviar 500GB hard drives in RAID 0 for roughly £60. In fact, I would say this is just as important as the CPU, as extra processing power will be completely redundant if the data rate from scratch is too slow to keep up.

Obviously if you want to game you'll need a good GPU, but I really don't see how you could combine video editing AND gaming into one machine, at such a limited budget.

Here is a list of components off the top of my head:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 £121.60
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/267503

CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 3.1GHz £93.51
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/254976

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2) DDR3 1600MHz £37.18
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti OC 1GB £113.15
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/260567

Case: Cooler Master Elite 330 £28.84
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127584

PSU: Corsair 500W CX Series £44.97
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240999

HDD: 2x Seagate 500GB SATAIII £62.70
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/252857

Total: £501.95.

See I already went £50 over the budget, and that's with parts that I would have preferred to go higher with. For example, you'd notice 8GB vs 4GB RAM for video editing. A Core i5 instead of i3 would be alot better, as you have two more cores vs. hyperthreading 'virtual quad core'. Also, the motherboard doesn't have firewire so if you have a firewire camera, you'll need a firewire PCIe card.
July 6, 2011 12:22:18 PM

8 gigs will do the job nicely and yeah, the 2500K is a great processor (I'm using it so I should know).

Just make sure the scratch drive is up to, well, scratch.

Maybe, depending on your priorities, you could get a cheap-o graphics card for the moment and upgrade it later? Could even use the 2500K's integrated graphics for the moment - just make sure *not* to get a P67 motherboard.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 6, 2011 1:33:43 PM

addison said:
A ati 5770 is better than the 450 gts and is like only 140$, it could be more helpful. But it you could afford it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is better.


depends on the brand of the card and it depends on the game and resolution but overall yeah the 5770 is slightly better, (but the GTS450 has Physx :D  which is awesome :D )
July 6, 2011 1:36:08 PM

I mean the XFX 5770 then he OC it to max boost fan to 70%. ATI cards have physx to :p .
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 6, 2011 3:24:57 PM

I'm really losing track of what the build is here, so many revisions.

As far as i can tell this is what we've got so far:


Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 £121.60
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/267503

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz £161.10
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251596

RAM: G-Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz RipjawsX Memory £55.82
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti OC 1GB £113.15
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/260567

Case: Cooler Master Elite 330 £28.84
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127584

PSU: Corsair 500W CX Series £44.97
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240999

HDD: 2x Seagate 500GB SATAIII £62.70
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/252857

£588.18


Only £150 over budget haha.

Not really sure what I can do to trim that down.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 6, 2011 3:27:57 PM

Just realised that's without an optical drive too.

Let's just say this : http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190838 £14.49

Which brings the total to £602.67
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 6, 2011 3:31:13 PM

Actually I won't bother with Raid 0 and I'll get a 1TB HDD instead.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 Bringing the price to £268.97.

Final time I'll reply to myself here.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 6, 2011 10:43:49 PM

What would be the main differences between those motherboards? I'll price check in the morning, thanks for the website suggestion.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 6, 2011 10:46:17 PM

Quote:
What would be the main differences between those motherboards? I'll price check in the morning, thanks for the website suggestion.


the one i chose is ATX (better cooling easier to work with) for about £10 less, look on aria, dabs, novatech, eBay, Amazon, scan for better deals, you could find it cuts costs significantly.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 1:33:14 PM

I've gone through it and it's going to be cheaper to get it all from ebuyer by the looks of it. The processor will be less from amazon but with delivery it doesn't seem worth it.

a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 1:51:25 PM

there is a used 2500K if you wanna saver some cash:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/257214

doesn't really affect the product in anyway, since the MAXIMUM the product could have been used for is a few months anyway.

[EDIT]: its not even used its EXDISPLAY! and that corsair PSU is on sale by £5! on ebuyer.

also this is a much better mobo, it has 2 PCI-E slots running at x16, x8 (as oppose to x16 and x4) and has another running at x4 also (and also has 4xsataIII, 4xsataII and USB.):
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/...

also this drive has some great reviews:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Hard+Drives/S...

this card is the same as the 550Ti off ebuyer (in performance) but runs cooler (and IMO looks cooler :p  and is cheaper):
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Card...

this case is very similar to the coolermaster 330, but is easier to handle, (holds HDDs better and therefore more securely and less vibration also its easier to remove the front panel).
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 2:00:57 PM

Would you say this would be a suitable choice for a case instead of the previous one http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

Only reason is it's a lot sexier.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 2:07:13 PM

Quote:
Would you say this would be a suitable choice for a case instead of the previous one http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

Only reason is it's a lot sexier.


yep lol as well as looking better, the reviews seem to be great!

another case you may want is this one:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/179016

its a good quality case, but it really depends on what you prefer in terms of looks really (since they are so similar).
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 4:18:13 PM

Ok Final build with the new motherboard and GPU

Case £28
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779
Graphics card £102
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Card...
Motherboard £104
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/...
Hard Drive £39
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804
Optical Drive £14.49
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190838

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz £161.10
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251596

RAM: G-Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz RipjawsX Memory £55.82
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

PSU: Corsair 500W CX Series £44.97
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240999


Should I shell out the extra £20 and get an i7 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166528
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 4:33:53 PM

No, get a HD 6850 instead. And that CPU is on some other socket.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 5:01:17 PM

mosox said:
No, get a HD 6850 instead. And that CPU is on some other socket.


btw the 6850 is more expensive here in the UK, and it has about the same performance:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/03/15/nv...

it depends on the game and resolution ofcourse, but he wouldn't be dissapointed with either.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
July 7, 2011 5:38:06 PM

I'll be wanting to play battlefield 3 but that's about the extent of it.

The system I posted should be good for that, right?

Are we agreeing that it's the final build? ha.
July 7, 2011 7:22:45 PM

What about a iceq turbo 6850 much cooler than a 550ti plus and awesome verclock.
July 7, 2011 8:22:22 PM

You should definitely go with RAID 0 if you want to do any video editing.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 8, 2011 9:56:51 AM

Quote:
I'll be wanting to play battlefield 3 but that's about the extent of it.

The system I posted should be good for that, right?

Are we agreeing that it's the final build? ha.


yeah it should be able to handle it just fine, maybe not on ultra settings but definetely on high settings.
July 8, 2011 4:30:31 PM

Ok, brilliant, thanks a lot for you help, I really appreciate it.
July 8, 2011 4:31:29 PM

I'm not sure why my account was deleted but I'll use this one from now on I guess. I may check back in in a few months and see if anything could be upgraded.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 8, 2011 6:06:22 PM

Welcome to THF! :p  jus' trolling.
July 18, 2011 9:58:11 PM

Right, I put it together today. It all seems to be working fine and it's booted it to the BIOS just fine. However when I stick in Windows 7 to install it, my hard drive isn't being recognised at all. It is being seen on the BIOS however.

Any ideas?
July 18, 2011 10:48:08 PM

Hmmm could be a faulty drive just because it shows up in bio's dosen't mean it's bad. Because it can't add data to the drive, send it back, and get a new drive.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 19, 2011 12:23:54 AM

Try some other SATA port on the mobo. Try all of them.
July 19, 2011 7:33:05 AM

Every port has been tried.
July 19, 2011 8:30:07 AM

Just borrowed a friends HDD and it works absolutly fine.
a b B Homebuilt system
July 19, 2011 8:49:13 AM

is the HDD your using from an older OEM system (eg from a HP or a dell or from eBay?)
July 19, 2011 9:55:22 AM

It's a seagate 300 Gb, must be an older one
July 19, 2011 9:56:28 AM

I've just bought another hard drive, which is working fine so I'll use the original as another drive
a b B Homebuilt system
July 19, 2011 10:15:42 AM

me_theo said:
I've just bought another hard drive, which is working fine so I'll use the original as another drive


if its an older drive from another system/from eBay it may just be OEM locked, they can be unlocked though.
July 19, 2011 10:19:41 AM

Oh the one that wasn't working was a brand new samsung spinpoint, sorry I thought you meant the one I borrowed to test.
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