Rate my £800 Spec

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Hey guys, new here. Just wanted to get a second opinion on my first real gaming PC build.

1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £156.98
1 x Gigabyte Z68A-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5850 Extreme 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £124.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £29.99
1 x Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black (with 500w Elite Power PSU) £64.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/4GX) £34.99
1 x Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Extreme Performance CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/1155/1156/1366/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £24.98
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
1 x Antec Tri-Cool 3-Speed 120mm Fan - Black £2.99
1 x Iiyama ProLite E2208HDD 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black - £124.99
Total : £739.53 (includes shipping : £11.25).

I have around another £110 to spend on improvements and a mouse and a keyboard.

Any recommendations on what I could get? General thoughts on my proposed build?

Thanks.
 

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The Z68 mobo is a very wise choice.

a few things:

1) Why are you buying previous generation 5850s when you can get a 6870 for the same price?

2)Don't get a WD Caviar Blue... if you want performance, get Caviar Black (it's gonna be in my new build as a storage drive)

3)I'm not sure a 500w PSU is gonna cut it. You want a 850w, because it's advisable to buy a higher power PSU in case you're gonna upgrade it in the future, and because running a PSU at its upper limit can fudge many things up (used to have a 580w PSU, but it died, taking down my hard drive and graphics card with it :'( I don't know how the processor survived though :D )

Other than these few things, it looks like a pretty good setup from my point of view!
 

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1.) I heard the 5850 overclocks more than the 6870, I have had a lot of guys say the card is a very good card.

2.) I will get a caviar black, might upgrade to a 1TB too. How much more does it cost?

3.) Wow, thanks for the advice on the PSU, I will definitely upgrade to a 850w.
 

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dont know what hes talking about but a 500W PSU should be fine, a 5850 is still a great performance card, but if you can get a 6870 for the same price, then why not go for that ? you could go for a samsung spinpoint if you want.

shop around, you may find some cheaper prices, website such as aria.co.uk, ebuyer, scan, dabs, novatech all provide some good offers too.
 

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I will go with whichever PSU is recommended most. Guys helped me at OCUK set this up and none of them said the 500W PSU was inadequate :S

+I would prefer to buy all from OCUK unless a really good offer comes in from another site, that way I only have to pay once for delivery.

Are spinpoints better than the other HDD?

+Is there any parts I could be on the look out for which are better than the ones I posted so I could buy them if they came up on an offer?

Thanks.
 
500W is definitely enough for that system, I suspect that jaydotosh had a pretty bad power supply, which is what caused him problems rather than it not having enough wattage. Obviously if you have lots of upgrade plans in the near/mid term future then larger is better, because it would be somewhat less likely that you would have to replace the PSU. You would also need a motherboard that could Crossfire/SLI - which the Gigabyte you listed can't - it does have a second PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, but it runs at x4.
But the Elite Power 500W is not really something I would buy for an £800 build. On OCUK the Antec HCG-620 is a pretty good deal at £50 until the middle of this week, so I would jump on that if I was you. Get the CM 430 Elite Black version without the power supply, to help pay for the separate PSU.

Definitely get the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (or the 500GB version) they really are good and you won't be able to get them for that much longer. Usually costs about £40 for the 1TB version, the 500GB should be £30.

Agree that if you can get a 6870 for £125 or even £130 then that is the better buy, but I've havent seen one at that price. So the 5850 is a good choice at £125.
 

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Hmm, I'm really torn.

Total for the actual system is around £670-680. The monitor is £125 and I still need a mouse & keyboard, so it isn't an £800 system.

The deal I was looking at on OCUK was the 500GB hard drive and Windows7 for £90, but the extra £10 is worth it for 500GB more data.

I am planning on upgrading, but not massively.

Could you spec me an ideal system with the Spinpoint 1TB, but having a maximum of around £670 for the actual system? Still really torn on the PSU and the graphics card. I do want to upgrade though...

I would really, really appreciate it if you could spec me up a system with that budget, most of the parts will be similar anyway for the budget I'm on.

Thanks a lot!
 
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM £156.98

Gigabyte Z68A-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5850 Extreme 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £124.99
Or
XFX HD 6870 Medal Of Honor 1GB GDDR5 £135
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/248885
Ebuyer usually have the option of free delivery and even when you choose that option it doesn't usually take very long.

Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB £44
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1279

Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £33
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-214-CM&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=

Antec High Current Gamer HCG-620 80Plus Bronze £55
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-148-AN&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=

Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/4GX) £34.99

Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Extreme Performance CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/1155/1156/1366/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £24.98

OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99

Antec Tri-Cool 3-Speed 120mm Fan - Black £2.99
Total : £640/650

The Antec HCG-620 will be good for a few single card upgrades, which is all that the motherboard can really support anyway.
 

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Great stuff, thanks. Could I replace that motherboard in the future to allow more upgrades? Also, could I replace the PSU in future?

I could probably squeeze another £30 for any other possible improvements on the build before I order it if there is anything else I need.

One final thing, if this gets outdated in a few years, could I just sell parts second hand?

Thanks.
 

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wouldnt reccommend a motherboard upgrade, it would mean reinstalling your OS.

is this the board you are looking at:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-346-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1990

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if so you could still SLI/Crossfire, just one would run at x4, (you would only lose about 3-4 FPS if you choose to crossfire).
 
Yes it is possible to replace the motherboard. One complication is that you have to dismantle basically the entire build to change it round. The other one is that technically you are not supposed to be able to transfer OEM copies of windows between motherboards - however many people report that they have successfully managed to get their license activated on a new motherboard after contacting MS. If you get a retail version then you can transfer it between motherboards.

I think it would be easier to replace PSU than to replace motherboard.

Yes it is possible to sell parts second hand, altho more than with a lot of other things computer hardware components depreciate quite quickly, so don't be surprised.

To spend that extra £30 I think that you have a choice between
a. Getting a crossfire/SLI capable motherboard now, which will cost ~£100, however it would have to be P67 rather than Z68
b. Get a PSU that you are extremely unlikely to need to replace to use two 200/250W graphics cards.

I haven't actually read reviews which showed performance degradation due to using an x4 slot, so I don't know what impact it really is likely to have, but personally I would like to see some evidence that an x4 slot is fast enough for a graphics card of a 6870's class.

The Antec 620 might even be capable of powering a build with 6870s, altho I think you would have to use peripheral to PCIe adapters.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-crossfirex-review/4
Shows a system with a very power hungry i7-965 (more powerful than an i5-2500K) using 421W at the wall. If the power supply was 90% efficient then it would only have wasted 85W as heat, which is a worst case scenario in terms of power consumed. So the system was probably drawing 336W at most from the PSU. That is at full load, which isn't necessarily all the time or frequent. So IMO that is not a problem for a 620W PSU.
 

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Thanks a lot for all the info!

Which would you recommend? If both cost £30 then I suppose I could get both if my keyboard and mouse weren't too expensive, how much is the average for a good mouse and keyboard? If it's only £50, I can upgrade the PSU & get a crossfire capable motherboard now I think.

I have to keep thinking about the future. What's the point of buying a low spec computer for £500 from somewhere like Comet, then going in 3 years late to buy another which will cost you anohter £500? It's pretty pointless if I can get a really good build now which will save a lot in electricity with the Sandybridge and have top quality parts everywhere which are reliable. +it's more or less like my 2nd console after PS3 instead of buying a 360 3 times which will cost a lot after RRODs etc.

+I will keep checking all the sites to get the cheapest deals I can and will buy parts over a few months instead of in bulk once, unless I need to pay a lot of delivery where the deals become obsolete.
 

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Using SCANs Today only deals:
http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly/index.aspx

Intel 2500k + MSI p67 gd65 + cooler master hyper 212+
£275 bundle

ASUS TOP GTX 560 Ti
£177

Not sure if you want to crossfire but there's a 650 XFX core psu up for £52

Otherwise a 750w XFX core PSU for £72
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-xfx-p1-750s-nlb9-pro-core-edition-80-plus-bronze-85-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-135mm-fan


The rest from EBUYER:
http://orders.ebuyer.com/customer/shopping/index.html?action=c2hvd2NhcnQ%3D

Sony Optiarc DVD
£15
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/220988

GSkill Ripjaws 4GB
£34
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240501

Microsoft Keyboard + mouse
£19
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/108204

Coolermaster 430 with window
£38
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/233740

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
£42
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804


Total from EBUYER £148
Total From SCAN £ 533

Total Price £681 (with postage and VAT)


 

System-Psychosis

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Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £173.99
(£144.99) £173.99
(£144.99)
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor £161.99
(£134.99) £161.99
(£134.99)
MSI P67A-GD65 Intel P67 (socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** with FREE Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler £139.99
(£116.66) £139.99
(£116.66)
Iiyama ProLite E2208HDD 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £107.99
(£89.99) £107.99
(£89.99)
Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
(£57.00) £68.40
(£57.00)
Options applied to the above product:
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) £32.99
(£27.49) £32.99
(£27.49)
XFX Pro 650W Core Edition Power Supply £64.98
(£54.15) £64.98
(£54.15)
Cooler Master Elite 430 Windowed Case - Black £33.98
(£28.32) £33.98
(£28.32)
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £31.19
(£25.99) £31.19
(£25.99)
OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
(£14.16) £16.99
(£14.16)
Antec Tri-Cool 3-Speed 120mm Fan - Black £2.99
(£2.49) £2.99
(£2.49)
Sub Total : £696.23
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £14.75
VAT is being charged at 20.00% VAT : £142.20
Total : £853.18

Gone with that build.

Sweet.
 

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thats a great build!, you wont be dissapointed, most of here just have a bit of scrooge-iness in us, hence the money saving advice lol.
 

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Thanks bud! :D

I decided to spend more as guys said I could overclock and upgrade a lot with this system for the next few years. When it eventually gets out of date I could just buy new parts or sell it for a cheap price knowing I have had a long time out of it.

How do you think it will be on the electricity bills?

Worth the extra money I am hoping :D
 

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should be nice on the electricity builds, intel speedstep technology clocks your CPU down to 1.6Ghz when there is little load and shoots up to 3.8Ghz when needed, your GPUs should underclock too when not under load. its only when its under high load that it will use full power. And yes, you could SLI another card in the future with that mobo.
 

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How long do you think it will last me?

Will I have to buy a completely new build or could I just replace outdated parts?
 

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shoudl last you quite a few years, depends on your needs, but generally yes, you would be able to swap out outdated parts. (hopefully Ivy Bridge will be on socket 1155, most are pretty sure it will be).
 

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Is the spec mid-high end would you say?

Hoping it will run Crysis at reasonably high settings + Diablo 3 & maybe even BF3 at a low setting. People are getting whole new systems just for BF3.
 

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Wow! That's £2399 too, and mine is £850 with a monitor. I could add another card too in the future.

Out of interest- what's your spec?

I will post pictures once I get it set up too :D Already ordered the CPU, graphics card & RAM.



Also, I'm not sure what to do with HDDs. Could I have a 500GB caviar blue AND a 1TB spinpoint or do you have to have one? Asking as the 500GB is in a bundle with Win7. Do I have any options?
 

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im not much of a gaming but heres my spec:

i5-2500K
H67MU3 (Biostar) mobo
EVGA Superclock GTS450
500W PSU
1 x 160GB HDD (internal)
1 x 500GB HDD (external)
1 x 80GB HDD (2.5")(internal)
1 x 60GB HDD (2.5")(internal)
1 x 40GB HDD (2.5")(internal)

optical drive (random dvd-rw drive)
and my old modded HP A1620.uk case =D
crappy PCI sound card also (dunno why i even bought it lol)
WiFi PCI card.

[EDIT]:

and 4GB ddr3 1333Mhz ram + Windows 7 ultimate 64bit, 120mm front fan, 92mm back fan, 80mm side fan, oh yeah and my 19" monitor :)
 

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Pretty nice build.

Also, I'm not sure what to do with HDDs. Could I have a 500GB caviar blue AND a 1TB spinpoint or do you have to have one? Asking as the 500GB is in a bundle with Win7. Do I have any options?
 
Yes you can have multiple HDDs in a single system. You will need one SATA data cable and a SATA power cable for each drive. The mobo comes with at least two SATA cables and the PSU has more than enough power cables.