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I7 2600k £1800 system (ADVICE)

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March 21, 2011 9:33:43 PM

Hey guys, so i recently spec'd a PC on PC specialist and it looks, at the moment, like this:

Case
PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE

Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core (3.40GHz @ max 4.80GHz)

Motherboard
ASUS® P8P67 PRO (NEW REV 3.0): USB 3.0/SATA 6Gb/s, CrossFireX™ & SLI

Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)

Graphics Card
1.25GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 570 - 2 DVI,mHDMI - DX® 11, 3D Vision Ready

2nd Graphics Card
1.25GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 570 - 2 DVI,mHDMI - DX® 11, 3D Vision Ready

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB INTEL® 510 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 450MB/sR | 210MB/sW)

2nd Hard Disk
640GB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD6402AAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W PRO SERIES (HX1000) 80+ MODULAR PSU (£169)

Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO A.L.C (ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER) (£49)

Thermal Paste
ARCTIC COOLING MX-3 HIGH THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)

It will be a 64-bit operating system so the RAM will defo work, but i was just wandering what peoples thoughts were on it. Any feedback will be much appreciated.

Regards Josh
March 21, 2011 9:55:24 PM

Good build Josh.
I recently rebuilt my home PC when my old Core 2 Duo motherboard started dying and I have built a 2600K system very similar to yours. Very impressed with the end result.

My main suggestion is to increase the speed of the DDR3 memory - run at least DDR3 2000 or higher for best results and you can get very good DDR3 2000 DIMMs for a good price if you hunt around.

If you get stuck, check out Team Group memory, which I am very happily using:
http://www.teamgroup.com.tw/teamgroup/en/productSeries....


You seem to be missing a heat sink too for your CPU. The stock one wont do you any good.
I recommend a Prolimatech Megahalems Revision B - it beats their newer and larger coolers (check the technical reviews of them). Very impressive performance and nice and quiet. My 2600K is currently running at 4.5 GHz and I don't think I've seen any of the cores hit the mid 40's in degrees celsius yet (good air flow in my case though).


Enjoy the build - it will be a nice rig.
March 22, 2011 3:17:47 PM

Cheers for the reply, but i was reading up on the speed of RAM and it showed in all tests that anything above 1600MHZ and 8GB pretty much makes no difference whatsoever to FPS in gaming, but i was thinking of upgrading them at a later date.

Didn't realise about the CPU not having a heat sink, I will ask now if i can get an upgrade.
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March 22, 2011 3:32:21 PM

The Coolit A.L.C is what you appear to have chosen as your 'heatsink', which is a closed off pre-assembled water cooling unit. It is probably as good as any other such unit. I would probably choose the Prolimatech Megahalems over it, but you will need to buy a fan to mount on it (unless your case has extremely good airflow, or you are running a low power processor that doesn't produce much heat - you could give it a go on an i5 or i7, but temps would get very high especially if overclocking).

Games don't benefit from hyperthreading, so unless you do something which is processor intensive then save some money and get the i5-2500K.

And you are absolutely right about the RAM nenru, anything above 1600MHz would be necessary for either synthetic benchmarking or extremely RAM intensive programs, which games generally aren't.
March 22, 2011 3:54:38 PM

Yeah i was thinking about downgrading from the i7 down to the i5, but for £65 difference i just decided it was worth the difference. If anything to make it a little more future proof.

Thanks for clearing up the heatsink thing, wasn't entirely sure about that. I am stuck with the Coolit A.L.C because its all they have in that drop down list really :(  do you not rate it much then?
March 22, 2011 7:16:53 PM

I don't know much about those self contained water cooling units. I haven't read a review of any Coolits, the only ones I've read are the Corsair H50, H70 and the Antec Kuhler H20. The H50 received an unfavourable review at SPCR because of pump noise, which put me off that. The H70's fans are really noisy. And they are both a bit expensive for their performance imo, the only advantages they have are removing any strain from the motherboard and being able to install whatever RAM you want, even with ridiculously tall heatspreaders (which are unnecessary unless you are OCing). The Antec received a favourable review at benchmark reviews, altho that's the only one I've read of it so far, so I'm not convinced by that yet either. So if the Coolit is like either of those then I wouldn't be interested.

I haven't checked prices either, but I havent seen any for as cheap as you can get air heatsinks, so it seems to me like you can either pay ~£50-70 to get the best air cooling, or you can get average/below average water cooling, even if they supposedly compete with air coolers in temperatures.
March 22, 2011 10:54:33 PM

nenru said:
Cheers for the reply, but i was reading up on the speed of RAM and it showed in all tests that anything above 1600MHZ and 8GB pretty much makes no difference whatsoever to FPS in gaming, but i was thinking of upgrading them at a later date.

Didn't realise about the CPU not having a heat sink, I will ask now if i can get an upgrade.



Sweet. Regarding RAM speed, it won't make a major difference, but every little bit counts and the most important part is higher speed memory can often give you more flexibility with overclocking, plus it some times allows you to run lower speeds with more aggressive memory timings. You may or may not care about either.

My comment on the heat sink was rubbish I think.
I didn't spot you have a water based CPU cooler in my original reply, so I think you can safely ignore my silly comment.
March 24, 2011 5:13:05 PM

I was thinking of getting another 8GB at a later date.

Regarding the thing about water coolers, the fact that they are water cooled makes a huge improvement over air cooling. It's because water has a very high specific heat capacity so it takes an awful lot of energy to raise its temperature, so the water cooler is a lot more efficient, even a lower end one. (Although I have read reviews on the Coolit A.L.C and the ratings are very good indeed)

By the way, I think the GTX 570 is a Palit card. Do they only do the Palit sonic platinum, or is there a crappier Palit 570?
March 24, 2011 8:14:06 PM

Cool.

I agree with you on water coolers, I've just never had the need to install one yet and I quite like the simplicity of air coolers. If I was trying to overclock to the limit, then I might get a water cooler, but I don't need one.


Re: the GTX 570 - I had a quick look on their web site and they've got two other 570 models - a stock version, plus one that sits in between the Sonic Platinum, which is called the "Sonic":

Stock Card:
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1453

Sonic:
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1480

Sonic Platinum:
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1452


That would be a pretty nice card alright :) 
I've had a very nice Palit card (Radeon 4870 Dual Sonic Edition) prior to my current one and rate their overclocked versions very highly. Nice quality cards with excellent features.

March 24, 2011 8:40:01 PM

Thanks an awful lot for the links on the different Palit cards, much appreciated :) 
March 24, 2011 8:46:45 PM

Looks like you have a very nice set up and I think you are going to love both the Intel® Core™ I7 2600k and the Intel Solid-State Drive 510.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
March 24, 2011 8:55:26 PM

@ Intel: Yeah, I wasn't originally going to go for an SSD. However I heard they were incredibly quick compared to normal HDDs. Would you say the i7 is a lot more future-proof than the i5 for gaming?
March 25, 2011 9:28:24 AM

I saw a test of the Coolit A.L.C. at xbitlabs, they compared it to the Hyper 212 Plus, it beat it. But that's not surprising because the Hyper 212 Plus is just an above average performer for its price, it's nowhere near being the best. I'm convinced that an Archon would wipe the floor with it terms of temps even with it's fan at 800RPM.
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