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February 11, 2011 2:50:56 PM

Hey guys,

Been meaning to get some more opinions or advice on an SB build.

It will be my first PC build, ive been eager to build one as i will be going to college/uni to study Digital Media (video editing, graphic design etc).

I am a very keen gamer and would want to be able to play future releases, id run games at max

Cost isnt too much of an issue, but would preferably keep the cost within £1,500-£2,000 ex VAT

Main uses:

Gaming
After Effects/Photoshop, C4D
Day to day stuff

The prices were taken from OCuk and ebuyer at 10/2/11, choosing the cheapest of the two retailers for the listed components (all prices are inc. VAT)

CASE: Coolermaster HAF X
[£129.99]

MOBO: Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67
[£144.98]

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz
[£269.99]

CPU COOLER: Corsair Hydro H70
[£73.55]

RAM: G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz
[£83.99]

GPU X2: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5
[£575.98]

PSU: Corsair AX850
[£147.58]

SSD: Intel X25-M 80GB SSD - SATA-II 2.5"
[£137.06]

HDD X2: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
[£79.97]

OPTICAL DRIVE: Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP Blu-ray
[£41.99]

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
[£74.20]

MONITOR: Benq XL2410T 24" 1920x1080 TRUE 120Hz
[£264.92]

overclockers.co.uk
ebuyer.com

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TOTAL: £2,024.20

ex. VAT: £1,686.83
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So yeah any advice on anything you would do differently or can recommend?

Thanks,

Milkym0o

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February 11, 2011 2:57:00 PM

You have a good build laid out there. Stick with 8GB of memory for now and monitor your memory usage while rendering to see if you are bumping against the 8GB limit.

Sandy Bridge.... um... might want to stay away until motherboards with the "fixed" SATA controllers ship. Anything you buy now is suspect and will degrade over time. More info @ http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sandy-bridge-sata-erro...
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February 11, 2011 3:17:29 PM

Thanks sadams04 for the quick reply! I'm well aware of the SB + mobo issue currently, read somewhere they will have it fixed and re-shipped in April.

I was leaning towards 8gb for now just because I can add another 8gb if I feel it's not quick enough.

One concern is the Corair Ax850, despite it being a quality PSU, I heard it's short cables are a bit tricky in a haf x, but I also heard but can't confirm that the haf x comes with extenders?
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February 11, 2011 5:03:06 PM

For the memory, 6GB kit or 12GB kit (tripple channel). Would advise against 8GB in dual channel mode. They need to be installed in matching sets of three...

Not sure about the externders from Corsair...

The EVGA 570 should have plenty of headroom to overclock, but you will need to use their utility all the time.
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February 11, 2011 5:08:43 PM

SB mobos are compatible only with dual channel kits. Can't use tri channel.

Options are 2x2gb, 2x4gb, recommended volts are 1.5 as far asi know... Dunno if you can use a higher voltage RAM
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February 11, 2011 5:19:02 PM

Yes indeed P67 and H67 (sandy bridge motherboards) don't utilise triple channel memory.

I don't think the cables on the AX850 will have problems reaching where they need to reach in the HAF X. For instance the CPU connector cables according to jonnyguru are 600mm long, the HAF X is 'only' 550mm tall, and it's not like the cables are starting from right at the very bottom of the case and need to go all the way to the very top, so I think they will be long enough. You can always buy the extenders later if you need to.
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February 12, 2011 12:53:30 AM

For the RAM, and considering ill be doing lots of rendering and encoding etc, what should I look for? Faster timings>Power or the Power>Timings. Which will show better results? And I know SB recommends 1.5v ram kits but is it able to run more?

And any difference in the overclocking headroom of the evga gtx 570 or the SC version? Is it the same just SC is pre overclocked for you?

Should i be jumping into SLI straight away with the gtx 570s or single gtx 580?


Thanks for the replies
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February 12, 2011 3:53:41 AM

Bump.
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February 12, 2011 1:18:29 PM

Bump
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February 12, 2011 3:40:12 PM

Single cards are better if you can pay more for it and you could buy one more and sli it if you want to later. I think you may want a faster SDD too. Like this one OCZ 120GB PCI Express MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD).
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February 12, 2011 4:17:14 PM

4ktv said:
Single cards are better if you can pay more for it and you could buy one more and sli it if you want to later. I think you may want a faster SDD too. Like this one OCZ 120GB PCI Express MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD).


Ye I probably gonna wait and see what the ocz vertex 3 is like whenever that is being release (Q3-Q4 2011 supposedly)

Still can't decide on GPU;

GTX 570 is cheaper for similiar performance to the 580 but Im worried the 1.2gb memory wont be enough in a year or so as game developers introduce more tessellation... I know at my preferred res of 1920x1080 it wont be so heavy but having that extra memory would be comforting... May try out 3D gaming at some point.

If I get the 580 I'd get the ax1200, I have SLI in mind.

May wait for reviews/benchmarks of the 590... But unsure about dual GPU and the issues that come with it

Anyone know if better timings or MHz on RAM effect render times? Bit in the dark on that one...
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February 13, 2011 1:55:26 AM

Milkym0o said:
Ye I probably gonna wait and see what the ocz vertex 3 is like whenever that is being release (Q3-Q4 2011 supposedly)

Still can't decide on GPU;

GTX 570 is cheaper for similiar performance to the 580 but Im worried the 1.2gb memory wont be enough in a year or so as game developers introduce more tessellation... I know at my preferred res of 1920x1080 it wont be so heavy but having that extra memory would be comforting... May try out 3D gaming at some point.

If I get the 580 I'd get the ax1200, I have SLI in mind.

May wait for reviews/benchmarks of the 590... But unsure about dual GPU and the issues that come with it

Anyone know if better timings or MHz on RAM effect render times? Bit in the dark on that one...

Forgive me if im wrong, but im rather sure than in a 2x single card set up, the video memory is combined, giving you effectively 2.4gb.

Thats why the 5970 had problems - a 'single' 5970 had 2x1 gbs that didn't combine, CF helped at gave you 2GB / 2 GB.

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February 13, 2011 2:43:55 AM

If you SLI two cards, the memory usage is split over the cards but the memory isn't doubled... Gtx 570 in SLI doesn't give you 2.4gb, it's only 1.2 but the usage is split across the two cards. As far as I know :) 
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February 14, 2011 1:28:06 AM

Unless you pick up an after-market CPU cooler/heatsink for your i7-2600k and overclock it up to 4.4+ (that's with powerboost going), you're going to bottleneck 2x 570s, esp. with a 1920x1080 resolution.
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February 14, 2011 4:02:25 AM

I am getting the corsair h70 to deal with my CPU... Aiming for 4.5ghz stable 24/7

The 580 is the one that has bottlenecked in a few benchmarks, but at 4.5ghz it should be good for SLI
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February 14, 2011 5:08:56 AM

About the shared video memory and all. SLI works with an alternating frame system(or split screen) so technically each card is just making half the images. In theory the difference between 1 card and 2 cards is just that you get twice as many frames in sli even though in practice this isn't always the case.

For the rest I think you're good to go. Exept why the haf x? Ohh please god tell me why the haf x??
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February 14, 2011 10:49:22 AM

Since you're buying from UK e-tailers, I think the HAF 912 Plus is a better case. You can put more high end fans liks Scythe or Delta 120mm or 140mm to better cool your components. HAF X is overrated. The 912 plus can fit longer video cards, smaller, if you LAN PARTY.

CPU COOLER: If you can wait, wait for the Antec Kuhler 620. It's a better performer than the Corsair H70, read the review on http://benchmarkreviews.com.

MEMORY: If you a have a business, & time is important to you, go with Kingston HyperX 2133 MHz, go w/ 16GB, from 8GB then upgrade. If not, you're better with a 1600MHz memory.

GPU: Go w/ a dual gtx 580s. Dual gpu single cards just gonna complicate your life. For example, if there's a new game about to be release, you have to wait for a SLI/CF profile driver before you can play, unlike a single gpu single card, just disable SLI/CF or just use one GPU you're good to go.

PSU: Go w/ the Corsair 1200 if you're gonna buy 2x gtx580 and an OC'd 2600k, even though if you're gonna add more components in the system. Just not another gtx580, it would not handle it.

MONITOR: Asus VG236HE, it's also a 120HZ, & it's cheaper but not a lower performer then the BenQ you want. The money you save, you can buy another one in the future, plus another one for surround gaming. That is if you're buying 2x gtx580.

The other parts you listed are great! Hope this helps.
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February 14, 2011 2:20:36 PM

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Since you're buying from UK e-tailers, I think the HAF 912 Plus is a better case. You can put more high end fans liks Scythe or Delta 120mm or 140mm to better cool your components. HAF X is overrated. The 912 plus can fit longer video cards, smaller, if you LAN PARTY.

CPU COOLER: If you can wait, wait for the Antec Kuhler 620. It's a better performer than the Corsair H70, read the review on http://benchmarkreviews.com.

MEMORY: If you a have a business, & time is important to you, go with Kingston HyperX 2133 MHz, go w/ 16GB, from 8GB then upgrade. If not, you're better with a 1600MHz memory.

GPU: Go w/ a dual gtx 580s. Dual gpu single cards just gonna complicate your life. For example, if there's a new game about to be release, you have to wait for a SLI/CF profile driver before you can play, unlike a single gpu single card, just disable SLI/CF or just use one GPU you're good to go.

PSU: Go w/ the Corsair 1200 if you're gonna buy 2x gtx580 and an OC'd 2600k, even though if you're gonna add more components in the system. Just not another gtx580, it would not handle it.

MONITOR: Asus VG236HE, it's also a 120HZ, & it's cheaper but not a lower performer then the BenQ you want. The money you save, you can buy another one in the future, plus another one for surround gaming. That is if you're buying 2x gtx580.

The other parts you listed are great! Hope this helps.


Thanks, i doubt I'd go tri SLI... By the time I felt it was necessary I would expect there to be newer and more powerful GTX card available.

For memory, well I'm not sure which is the best for video editing/Photoshop and that goes with an i7 2600k well. The G. Skill RAM met the recommended requirements for an i7 2600k but don't know how well it performs in editing etc

Doubt I'd buy multi monitors any time soon... 1920x1080 for now, then 2560x1600 when they become cheaper and more are available on the market. My desk real estate isnt big enough for 3 monitors, my room only just fits a small ish king size bed and so I had to get a smaller desk to fit, like 175cm x 70cm lol

I picked the haf x for these reasons; its big, spacious, great cooling even with stock fans, good GPU cooling (SLI will get hot obviously), good cable management and a relatively simple case to build in, I haven't built one before, keep that in mind.

As for the brand of the GTX 580s, think I'll go Asus, voltage tweaking doesn't void warranty and I've seen overclocks of up to 950mhz without water blocks.

I need a RAM wiz or links to reviews/benchmarks as to which i7 2600k RAM is best for editing and rendering etc...

Thanks for the replies, reassuring my thoughts so far xD
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February 14, 2011 4:12:53 PM

First of all I definately wouldn't go with a haf 912 lol it's very very good for the price, but regardless for a fairly extreme build like this you would want a good case. Not only is it a good investment(cases have no real technology so it can't get old lol). Also you seem to be someone who wants a decent pc. So do you really want a loud, dust collecting, huge(and I mean this in a bad way because with this size it's really ugly) and esthetically poorly designed case to represent the beast you're building? I mean sure it's a good case spec wise but the things I've said above are certainly true.

I would reccomend a more proffesional type case like the silverstone ft02(best air cooling case hands down leaving the haf x and any other case way way behind especially with EE gpu's, it's also very very quiet and retains the legendary silverstone build quality.) The cooler master cosmos or 840 atcs are also good so is the corsair 700d/800d or 600t andy lian li you like the looks of is also an great choice, but I think you've understood I would reccomend the silverstone ft02 lol.

I'm not a fan of 580s nor tri sli seeing as both are beyond bang for buck and aren't nice to wallets.

As far as ram is concerned. Corsair vengeance is optimised for sandy bridge and corsair is just a great brand.

I wouldn't get and an all in one H20 cpu cooler though air coolers like the CM v6 gt ussually outperform them at a lower cost and lower risk.
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February 14, 2011 4:36:36 PM

If you want a GTX 580 then get the 3gb(Palit Geforce GTX 580 3072 MB 384-bit GDDR5) when it's back in stock. I have read the 1.5gbvram ones are bottlenecked by the vram. I think you may be able to get 4.7-5GZ out of the i72600k.

I like ATI cards most of the time, but thats just because I don't like to pay 300-500 for a GPU. Back in 09 I got the 4870 ati for 150 and that was the most I paid for a GPU. If you don't feel like paying 500 for a gtx580 then the gtx570 or a 6970 would both likely be good.

For the ram 8Gb of drr3 1600mz is good. I have 6GB of drr3 1600mz and It takes alot to fill it more then 50%.

For the OS will only do 16Gb of ram so if you are thinking about puting more ram then that then you may want windows 7 pro.
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February 14, 2011 8:07:31 PM

again sandy bridge is dual channel so 4/8/16gb...
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February 14, 2011 8:28:11 PM

Thanks for your replies.

I know SB is dual channel, all I need to know
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February 14, 2011 8:29:04 PM

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February 15, 2011 3:41:26 AM

Bah couldn't finish my comment, my aunts dog jumped on me, it had been in the sea >.< and by accident I sent the first bit of my reply then had to go to work! Ugh... Wet dog
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February 15, 2011 4:08:10 AM

Here is a case review of the haf x, the GPU temps and CPU temps were very good

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/07/26/coole...

And just another review

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/cooler_master_h...

I don't like the silverstone cases, I want one with great features and a sort of personality rather than bland square black boxes...

Was looking a the antec 1200 V3, NZXT Phantom, Corsair 600t and the haf x.

NZXT was a nice case but it sucks for aftermarket CPU coolers as the side fan limits your options.

Corsair 600t's cooling isnt so great, it's a good case but not my cup of tea :) 

Antec 1200 V3 I was heavily considering, has USB 3.0 and has great cooling an would certainly fit to the color scheme of my room, desk and razer deathadder respawn mouse and razor lycosa kbd.

At the time of making the list the 1200 V3 isn't on sale in the Uk as far as I know. So picked the haf x based on reviews and I thought I could add some mega flow blue led fans to replace the front and top ones.

But if the antec 1200 V3 does become in stock then I'll have a tough choice choosing... Vs haf x!

I prefer the looks of the antec 1200 v3 but for size and cable management and sheer amount of features the haf x I see as the winner, antec is still a great case and by no means am I counting it out.
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February 15, 2011 4:26:43 AM

Antec 1200 V3 is awaiting an ETA on scan.co.uk

Priced at £130 Inc VAT
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February 15, 2011 6:54:59 AM

Antec DF-85 is quite similar to the Antec 1200, have you checked that out?
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February 15, 2011 8:08:07 AM

I looked at it, functional it's a good case, but it's ugly as
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February 15, 2011 1:07:58 PM

For RAM I found that SB makes full use of higher bandwidths.

So I had a look at these

Corsair XMS3 DDR3 2000MHz 8GB (2x4GB) CL9

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/48887/Corsair...

Any thoughts?

Was thinking of a Noctua nh-d14 + that RAM, and the Antec 1200 V3 (just think it looks better and will suit my room), at the time of posting this I havent checked if the nh-14 fits in the 1200 V3 but will check now...

I'llrepost an updated list soon, so you can see my changes.

Thanks to those that posted, keep the suggestions coming!!

Priorities on advice = RAM, antec 1200 V3 vs HAF X, NH-14 vs H70
(Best SB RAM for video rendering etc)
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February 15, 2011 1:28:21 PM

On scan.co.uk the corsair xms3 2000mhz 8gb kit is a little cheaper.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-xms3-ddr3-pc3-16000-(2000)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-10-9-27-165v
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February 15, 2011 1:48:54 PM

With AE CS5 being able to utilize as much memory as you have, I'd probably go for 16gb out of the block, and with an i7 2600k at 4.5ghz (aiming for) + the CUDA cores from the GTX 580s I should hopefully get some fast render times And longer RAM preview and better real time playback :) 
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February 15, 2011 2:25:26 PM

I know there are many good reviews on the haf x because it is a good case for the price. But I don't think you should worry a lot about the price of a case with this kind of build, because like I said before it's a good investment and it represents your pc and because a better case providces better cooling and lower sound.

Now I don't think you should pay a lot of attention to reviews despite the fact that those people know what they are talking about. My favourite website is Bit-tech and like me they adore the ft02 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/08/12/silve... far more so than the haf x http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/07/26/coole...

Bassically the looks is an opinion thing for me the haf x looks like a 2usd transformer action figure whereas the ft02 looks like a 3k gaming beast. Like I said however opinions differ. When you take looks out of account though the ft02 is a far better case in terms of acoustics, temperatures(haf x is one of the best coolers out there and yet it is horribly beaten by the ft02 also note that a closer look at the graph clearly indicates that the ft02 is far far better at dissipating lots of heat the is proven by looking at the min/max temps on this page compared to the haf x http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/08/12/silve... this also makes sense seeing as the design of the ft02 is much better at removing all heat out of a case efficiently and systematically, but because it's small and has little ventilation that cooling power only goes to show at higher heat levels. I think it's also fairly self explanatory that for any type of overclocking or installing lots of heat generating components the ft02 type of cooling is a much better choice because you will need to dissipate lots of heat).

That being said I think you've already made up your mind to not choose for silverstone(or any of the other elite case manufacturers like corsair or lian li) so I'll just leave you be I guess although I must say I would definately get the antec 1200 above the haf x because of the looks and I would never get the df-85 again because of the looks.
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February 15, 2011 2:43:29 PM

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I know there are many good reviews on the haf x because it is a good case for the price. But I don't think you should worry a lot about the price of a case with this kind of build, because like I said before it's a good investment and it represents your pc and because a better case providces better cooling and lower sound.

Now I don't think you should pay a lot of attention to reviews despite the fact that those people know what they are talking about. My favourite website is Bit-tech and like me they adore the ft02 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/08/12/silve... far more so than the haf x http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/07/26/coole...

Bassically the looks is an opinion thing for me the haf x looks like a 2usd transformer action figure whereas the ft02 looks like a 3k gaming beast. Like I said however opinions differ. When you take looks out of account though the ft02 is a far better case in terms of acoustics, temperatures(haf x is one of the best coolers out there and yet it is horribly beaten by the ft02 also note that a closer look at the graph clearly indicates that the ft02 is far far better at dissipating lots of heat the is proven by looking at the min/max temps on this page compared to the haf x http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/08/12/silve... this also makes sense seeing as the design of the ft02 is much better at removing all heat out of a case efficiently and systematically, but because it's small and has little ventilation that cooling power only goes to show at higher heat levels. I think it's also fairly self explanatory that for any type of overclocking or installing lots of heat generating components the ft02 type of cooling is a much better choice because you will need to dissipate lots of heat).

That being said I think you've already made up your mind to not choose for silverstone(or any of the other elite case manufacturers like corsair or lian li) so I'll just leave you be I guess although I must say I would definately get the antec 1200 above the haf x because of the looks and I would never get the df-85 again because of the looks.


Ye dude i know where your coming from, everyone has their preferences on case looks and design etc...

For me the FT02 is just too "black boxy' if you get me...

The HAF X was available, reviews were good and the price was decent and like i said, i like the robust military look, but much prefer the antec 1200 (the V3 isnt available in UK just yet so ill wait for that)
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February 15, 2011 3:08:24 PM

*UPDATED LIST 16/2/11* (in bold are changes)

CASE: Antec 1200 V3
[£130.94]

MOBO: Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67
[£144.98]

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz
[£269.99]

CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-D14
[£59.77]

RAM: Corsair XMS3 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-16000 (2000), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-10-9-27, 1.65V
[£257.18]

GPU: SLI - Asus GeForce GTX 580 1536MB GDDR5
[£834.19]

PSU: Corsair AX 1200W
[£214.94]

SSD: Intel X25-M 80GB SSD - SATA-II 2.5"
[£137.06]

HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB (RAID 0)
[£79.97]

OPTICAL DRIVE: Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP Blu-ray
[£41.99]

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
[£74.20]

MONITOR: Benq XL2410T 24" 1920x1080 TRUE 120Hz
[£264.92]

overclockers.co.uk
ebuyer.com
scan.co.uk

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Net amount (excluding VAT): £2,025.13

VAT (@20%): £405.03

Gross amount (including VAT): £2,430.16
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Just over what i said i expected to pay. Thats including the fact thats with SLI GTX 580s and 16gb RAM xD

I had a list of Evga GTX 580s SLI, G.Skill RipjawsX 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHZ, Corsair H70, HAF X (+ rest of components listed) at £1,996.40

So for £30 more i get 16GB RAM :) 





Hmmm recommended voltage for RAM on SB mobos is 1.5v, although i have heard people have run 1.65v without any issues, but a few have... May have to under volt the RAM and see if i can keep it stable at around 1.55-1.6v.
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February 15, 2011 3:26:11 PM

When you Xfire or SLI, you're only going to get about 150% of a card's worth of performance, and maybe even less with Xfire compared to SLI. SLI scales a lot better than Xfire does. You don't just stick in 2 cards and get 2 cards of performance.

If you were planning on pumping out serious cash for an SLI of 2x 580s or something like that, first of all, it's a complete waste on any resolution under 2560x1440 or 2560x1600. It will also be a waste if you don't OC your processor bigggtime because the lower your resolution the more your CPU will have to work bottlenecking your 2x 580s even more.

If you're still planning on spending a ton, I'd recommend getting a lower PSU, and buying a water-cooled 580 GTX super-overclocked (to about 115-120% - EVGA sells these already modded with the watercooling gear for $700) and water cooling for your CPU. Try to reach 4.7k stable with the sandy bridge. Overall you'd be using a lot less power, very little noise and heat, and probably will have the same performance as if you just went for the SLI, esp. because you're using 1920x1080, which is more CPU dependant than 2560x1440 or 1600.
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February 15, 2011 3:41:59 PM

Since I've just been moaning about you case choice I suppose it's time to comment on the rest lol.

1. This is just added info: As you may know the sata controller on the p67 chipset is busted. So I would get an external sata add-in controller. Those are faster and remove any issues you could ever have with the broken p67.

2. NH-d14 isn't by any means bang for buck but it's sexy as hell and is very good that's why I bought one, but just so you know there are more sensible choices out there(like the Cm v6 gt) but they are dull.

3. I would really opt for vengeance memory from corsair because it's rated for 1.5v and thus optimised for sandy bridge. Also cl9 isn't very good, but for ram heavy apps a high frequency would be better, but you can easily play around with these settings so the best thing would be to get a quality 1.5v set.

4. I would drop down to 570gtx sli because performance is similar and it gives you some breathing room for the additions I will mention below.

5. 1200w is overkill. Nothing else to say about that.

6. 80gb intel ssd is just a joke(no offense I mean I don't even have an ssd yet ^^). The x25ms use old technology(relative). They are thus fairly slow compared to the competition. This is also the determining factor for pc speed(do not confuse speed with power). 80gb is also fairly little. Currently the good SSDs are corsair force, OCZ agility 2/vertex 2, G.skill phoenix, ....(all the same controller so bassically the same speed) I would consider one of these 120gb versions a minimum for a system like this. Slightly higher end we find crucial c300 SSDs which are very good and will fly with a discrete sata controller(they have almost HDD like writes though). Then my favourite is this which will be coming out soon http://www.corsair.com/solid-state-drives/performance-3... it's just the epitome of drive type ssds, it'll dust any of the above mentioned drive very very easily. Take it up another notch and were in the realm of OCZ IBIS and OCZ revodrive(both are expensive and very fast with the IBIS being the fastest ssd on the market and the revodrive being kind of strange if you want more info on it ask because it's quite a lump).

7. Finally that screen is widely despised so I would go with something else. This is what I have and love although I have no clue about screens really http://www.ebuyer.com/product/177131
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February 15, 2011 4:20:23 PM

1. I know bout the issue

2. I was stuck on the h70 v nh-14 before i made the thread

3.Vengeance RAM doesn't fit under the nh-14, heatspreaders are too tall, I'd want to utilize all 4 channels so I need fast RAM with low heatspreaders

4. SLI 580s are within my budget, and if I oc them to 900-950mhz I can get some serious performance.

5. 1200w to be safe, heavy overclocking, even if it is a bit overkill for now, can re-use it in future build.

6. I know the x25-m are soon to be slow, I threw it in cos it was 80gb and decent price, will see what the vertex 3 are like. I only really see myself loading the OS on it and AE, Photoshop, C4D just to speed up the loading... Games take a few seconds to open so I dont feel the need for a massive SSD, but am most likely not gonna get the X25-M, but a vertex 3 when released around that size :) 

7. Hmmmm I've said before in the post, but I'm getting 1920x1080 120Hz for now, 2ms, 3d enabled so that when 30" monitors with 120Hz refresh, low response times and 3D etc are cheaper and when more brands/models are available I'll grab one then.

To focus_pRo, I understand that 2 cards won't fully double performance. I hope to get my 2600k to +4.5GHz

As for water-cooling... I'll stick to air for this one...


Some people may look at this and be like "ugh more cash than brains" but I need this to last 2-4 years as I'll be going to uni to study Digital Media and don't think I'll ever have an opportunity to get a build like this for a while (so you guys know, over my gap year I've been working 40+ hours a week, when I return shortly, I will have around £10,000)

Want to keep the cost within £2,000 as I'll need to pay my terms fees and more importantly partying hard!

xD
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February 15, 2011 4:31:56 PM

Around* £2,000
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February 15, 2011 4:57:36 PM

1) If I were to get a GTX 580 then I would get the best one and right now it's seems to be the Palit Geforce GTX 580 3072 MB. Yes it's for real and only about 100 more.

2) As for SSDs If I were to build a PC like this then I would get a PCIe SSD for they are faster then fast. They can boot windows 7 in less then 10s. If you look up the OCZ revodrive 120Gb on youtube then you will see how fast they are. About the SSD the 80gb intel ssd is not that much better then the 1TB HDD.





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February 15, 2011 6:21:40 PM

Well, if you're going to spend all that cash and OC your 2600k over 4.5k and do 2x 580s in SLI, at least get a 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 resolution monitor!
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February 15, 2011 7:35:37 PM

focus_pRo said:
Well, if you're going to spend all that cash and OC your 2600k over 4.5k and do 2x 580s in SLI, at least get a 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 resolution monitor!


He said he wants 120hz so no more then 1920x1080.
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February 15, 2011 7:59:31 PM

don't worry about the vengeance not fitting under the d14 you can either put the fan up 2 nothces(shouldn't make a difference in temps not noticable anyways) or put it on the other side(this would ussually require removing the exhaust fan put the noctua fan would replace the exhaust fan function or the fan can be left out all together only resulting in a 1-2degree or so increase in temp )

I don't really agree with some of your choices but hey you got the info so this is where my task ends ;) 

as for the monitor there are other screens out there that fullfill those needs and are not despised by reviewers I'd take a look at those. Also don't worry about 2ms response time is not important really, however inaccurate colour display of which they accuse that benq is.
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February 15, 2011 8:46:48 PM

I am just waiting for larger monitors to be cheaper and 120hz with low response times, just haven't found a decent 2560x1600 which is 120Hz and isn't like £800... If you know of any monitor that is£400-£500 that is of that res and refresh+response rate I'd appreciate a link :) 

If I were to get either the gainward phantom/ palit 580 3gb in SLI I think that'd be super overkill. I need the cards to last and so I pictured that for now they will be overkill for my res, but as games get graphically more intense in a few years I see them performing well... And if the money is available I'll buy a bigger monitor.

I appreciate your input Somebody_007

As much as I do seem to pass off your suggestions I did decide away from the Haf x and it helped me assess my build

Despite me being able to spend what would be considered a lot of cash on this build, I see £2000 being roughly the price point I'm aiming to spend.
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February 16, 2011 2:15:45 AM

Milkym0o said:
I am just waiting for larger monitors to be cheaper and 120hz with low response times, just haven't found a decent 2560x1600 which is 120Hz and isn't like £800... If you know of any monitor that is£400-£500 that is of that res and refresh+response rate I'd appreciate a link :) 

If I were to get either the gainward phantom/ palit 580 3gb in SLI I think that'd be super overkill. I need the cards to last and so I pictured that for now they will be overkill for my res, but as games get graphically more intense in a few years I see them performing well... And if the money is available I'll buy a bigger monitor.

I appreciate your input Somebody_007

As much as I do seem to pass off your suggestions I did decide away from the Haf x and it helped me assess my build

Despite me being able to spend what would be considered a lot of cash on this build, I see £2000 being roughly the price point I'm aiming to spend.


But it's only 100USD more and is x2 the vram. I meen 20% more $ for x2 the vram. I would do it, but thats just me.
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February 16, 2011 3:24:53 AM

4ktv said:
But it's only 100USD more and is x2 the vram. I meen 20% more $ for x2 the vram. I would do it, but thats just me.

Hardly important especially as he is sli'ing anyways.
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February 16, 2011 4:00:59 AM

4ktv said:
But it's only 100USD more and is x2 the vram. I meen 20% more $ for x2 the vram. I would do it, but thats just me.


The 3gb of VRAM would really only come into play with a multi monitor setup.

And each card is roughly £80 more thats another £160 onto of my £2,025 total so far...

Id get the gainward GTX 580 phantoms if they had a 1.5gb version for a better price, looks so sexy (3 PCI slots each tho xD)

To Derbixrace, the OCZ vertex 2 are nice and I've mentioned in this post I'd probably wait to see what the vertex 3 is like, but thanks for the link, for £2 more than the x25-m and 10gb more space + faster, that's a nice find :) 

Will probably add that to my updated list but with a side note that I may wait for vertex three if released soon.
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February 16, 2011 5:10:38 AM

There is a reason nvidia made the standard version of the 580 a 1.5gb version. They know what they're doing. I can assure you that the increase in price is not worth the performance. I mean with ati I can understand you would think about getting a different ram card because well ati clearly doesn't put as much thought in the amount of ram they use as nvidia.

About the screen I know what you mean but this monitor meets your demands but is simply a good deal better and comes with an nvidia 3d vision kit http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B003W0JXBC/ref=... or if you don't want the kit this is exactly the same screen without the kit http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-VG236HE-Monitor-23-inch-Wi...

And definately get the vertex 2 mentioned above seeing as it's bassically the same price, larger and a good deal faster in both reads and writes.

However I wouldn't wait for the OCZ agility 3 series they are coming out late. I'd either get the corsair P3s, crucuial c400s(coming out soon) or something now on the market. I mean if we always waited for the next gen we'd never get anything done ;) 
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February 16, 2011 6:31:49 AM

Ye i know, but i can hold off this build for a month or so :) 

About the monitors, i took into consideration what you said about the Benq XL2410T, i had heard it had bleeding in the top and lower parts of the screen, but didnt know if it was severe or not.

This then got me thinking about the whole TN vs IPS.

Typically;

TN is better for faster response - Gaming

IPS can produce greater and more accurate image quality - Graphic design

(for my scenario that is)

But i figured, being only a student, the colour accuracy the IPS produce would be better suited for a Professional, its not super necessary as a student (super price tag!) xD

I think that using a TN monitor would be useable in both my preferences, both graphic design and gaming. Cheaper on the whole too :) 

Which then lead me to stumble across this:

http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=197...

The 750 is the one im looking at, not the fancy stand on the side 950, another article about it

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20028659-1.html

I hope that the Nvidia 3D Vision can be used though...

Acer's 27" 3D attempt:

http://3dvision-blog.com/review-of-the-27-acer-hn274h-3...

any thoughts?
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