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January 18, 2011 8:01:27 PM

Right so, I'm from the UK, but end up browsing this forum more than the UK tech ones.

Looking to build a machine between £700 - £900. Within the next 1 - 2 weeks.

I have Monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers/headset, soundcard, sorted.

I have been looking at the 2nd Gen i-series, specially the i5 2500k. I'm quite interested in overclocking and would love to have a go at it. I've heard the I-Series are made for this kinda thing.

The board I was looking at was Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge)

Has quite good reviews. Currently about £150. The CPU is about £180 from Ebuyer.co.uk.

I was also looking at this Corsair Memory XMS3 6GB DDR3 1600 Mhz CAS 9 Triple Channel Desktop for memory. Which is about £60

The last component I have looked at is a graphics card: Gigabyte GTX 460 Super OverClock Edition 1GB Dual DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card Which is about £160

Now.. I was moving onto looking at CPU Coolers/Cases/Hard Drives (I think a SSD and a 500gb or 1TB one will do fine, I'm not an archiver)/PSU.. (Probably looking at Corsair as they seem like good sturdy PSU's)

I'm probably missing other things but if I could get some advice really. I haven't built a machine in a while the last one I built I did about 4 years ago..

Some of the websites I tend to buy from.. ebuyer.co.uk, scan.co.uk, overclockers.co.uk, possibly amazon.co.uk, dabs.co.uk.

More about : gaming build 700 900

January 18, 2011 8:58:58 PM

Both of these builds are set up for future SLI

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/177119 £61.27 inc. vat Free Delivery
Coolermaster CM690 All Black Exterior/Interior Case - No PSU

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/241554 £65.15 inc. vat Free Delivery
XFX Pro 650W Core Edition PSU - Single Rail 9x SATA 4x PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/252617 £115.10 inc. vat
Asrock P67 Extreme4 P67 Socket 1155 USB 3.0 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-2500k-unlo... £167.46 Inc VAT
Intel CPU Core i5 2500K Unlocked Sandy Bridge Quad Core Processor OEM

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/245376 £23.41 inc. vat
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Socket 775, 1156,1155 AM2, 1366, AM3 Processor Cooler

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169203 Now £2.00 inc. vat Free Delivery
Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Grease

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY... £43.99 inc VAT
G.Skill RipJaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit [F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL]

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 £43.98 inc. vat
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026 £11.99 inc. vat
LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black with Nero Essentials

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/245520 £158.99 inc. vat Free Delivery
Gigabyte GTX 460 Super OverClock Edition 1GB Dual DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card

Total: £681.35 inc VAT

*gtx 570 version of this build

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA... £79.64 inc VAT
XFX Pro 850W Core Edition Power Supply

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/249094 £269.98 inc. vat Free Delivery
Inno3D GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card

Total: £806.83 inc VAT

*not included in total cost (not sure if you have Windows 7)

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173791 £74.34 inc. vat Free Delivery
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English
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January 18, 2011 9:13:26 PM

MrFwar said:
Thanks, Why_me, I'll look into some of these components tomorrow, obviously as with any tech its good to read up on the reviews for it.

Also opinion on:

Corsair Memory XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel Desktop

All of them are "tried and true" :)  ...with the exception of that Inno3D gtx 570 gpu. I googled the reviews on it and it seemed to do pretty decent. Inno3D is a UK company and we don't get those cards on this side of the Atlantic.

These 1155's tend to like lower voltage RAM...G.Skill all the way. :) 
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January 18, 2011 9:29:40 PM

I've never heard of G.Skill until recently, and I have been hearing good things. I've always dealt with Kingston/Corsair tbh.

Gonna do a bit more reading on the mobo, from what i've read so far its very similiar in terms of benchmarks to the one I suggested, though it seems most of the P67 mobo's are similiar :p 

How do you reckon the CPU Cooler would stand up to overclocking?
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January 18, 2011 9:52:44 PM

MrFwar said:
I've never heard of G.Skill until recently, and I have been hearing good things. I've always dealt with Kingston/Corsair tbh.

Gonna do a bit more reading on the mobo, from what i've read so far its very similiar in terms of benchmarks to the one I suggested, though it seems most of the P67 mobo's are similiar :p 

How do you reckon the CPU Cooler would stand up to overclocking?

AsRock (mobo) is owned by ASUS. G.Skill has been tearing up the market over here for the last 4 years or so. It used to be Corsair, Mushkin, and Crucial...but G.Skill has most of the market now these days due to great pricing, and good product.

That h/s is one of the better (middle category h/s). If your looking to o/c past... 4.4Ghz or higher...then I would look at the Scythe Mugen II. Otherwise the h/s in that build along with the thermal compound is more than adequate.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY... <--- here's the new G.SKill RAM targeted for these 1155 SB builds...due to the voltage on them. They are going to be a hit...I just found them now, or I would have put them in that build on here.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158603 <--- that's the h/s you want if you going to do any high o/c.
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January 19, 2011 3:29:34 AM

Why_Me made superb suggestions, especially the Samsung HDD (I have 3 and love them).

Best RAM manufacturers in my opinion: OCZ, Mushkin, G.Skill, Corsair. There's some other good ones like Geil or even Crucial and Kingston, but the're all a tier below in my book. I think Corsairs tend to be too pricey for the timings you get at their prices. My OCZ stuff does 1910MHz 6-8-6.

Lastly, I'd go with the more powerful graphics card (GTX 570) & 850W PSU. The fact is that graphics is the main place where you'll notice a change in computers. So if your'e going to spend £680 for something that seems lacking, you may as well spend £800 for total awesomeness.
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January 19, 2011 3:41:03 AM

dalauder said:
Why_Me made superb suggestions, especially the Samsung HDD (I have 3 and love them).

Best RAM manufacturers in my opinion: OCZ, Mushkin, G.Skill, Corsair. There's some other good ones like Geil or even Crucial and Kingston, but the're all a tier below in my book. I think Corsairs tend to be too pricey for the timings you get at their prices. My OCZ stuff does 1910MHz 6-8-6.

Lastly, I'd go with the more powerful graphics card (GTX 570) & 850W PSU. The fact is that graphics is the main place where you'll notice a change in computers. So if your'e going to spend £680 for something that seems lacking, you may as well spend £800 for total awesomeness.


No offense...but I wouldn't use Geil RAM unless it was for a paper weight. OCZ...meh. But a good thing with these 1155 boards.. RAM doesn't affect the o/c. It's a first...and a good one. Before timings were important in regards to getting a decent o/c...but not with these boards. Your seeing more CL9 RAM sold with these 1155 builds then ever before, and for good reason. It's cheap, and the difference between CL9 1333 and CL7 1600 is milliseconds if that. It's a new day and age with these SB cpu's. :) 
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January 19, 2011 9:19:05 AM

Apperciate the help Why_me, going to look into that graphics card a bit more. I'm happy to spend up to £900, if it means getting a good 570/580.

Thanks for your advice
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January 19, 2011 9:09:19 PM

MrFwar said:
I've just seen this:

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-103...

How do you think two of those would do against a single 570? Though I have noticed a bulk of driver issues with AMD today..

I'm probably going to get flamed for this remark....but I'm an NVIDIA fan myself.

If I had to make a choice in that price range...I would go with this card down below...and yes...this card down below is a bloody steal at that price.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/233611 £125.13inc. vat Free Delivery
PNY Geforce GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics card
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January 19, 2011 9:28:54 PM

Sorry for the double post, but the new gtx 560 is due for release in less than two weeks from now. It will be cheaper than the gtx 570, yet it's suppose to be a real gamer. Before you buy a graphics card...I would wait another ten days...until then you can order everything else. A 750w psu should be more than enough for two of those 560's in SLI.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=h...
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January 19, 2011 9:32:15 PM

Well budget on a graphics card is about £300.. I mean at that price I could easily get two of them.

Depends on the price of the 560's tbh. As above I'd like to keep the price of the graphics card(s) under £300 if possible, but I guess I could go slightly over.

I'm still undecided between the Asrock and Asus boards, I've only been able to find 1 or 2 reviews for the Extreme4, where as there are loads of the Asus P8P67.

I'll point out I'm also an Nvidia fan, I love my 9800GTX+ atm. I mean I love the technology behind PhysX and CUDA.

In terms of EyeInfinity, i doubt I'll every use 3 monitors. I'm happy gaming with one, people already complain about my map awareness from one screen, if I have 3 to look at... :p 

I really need to stop having these late nights researching into this.
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January 19, 2011 9:44:53 PM

MrFwar said:
Well budget on a graphics card is about £300.. I mean at that price I could easily get two of them.

Depends on the price of the 560's tbh. As above I'd like to keep the price of the graphics card(s) under £300 if possible, but I guess I could go slightly over.

I'm still undecided between the Asrock and Asus boards, I've only been able to find 1 or 2 reviews for the Extreme4, where as there are loads of the Asus P8P67.

That card should be significantly cheaper than the gtx 570. And I'm a firm believer in one good graphics card @ first, and then if you feel the need, pick up a second one later down the road.

1 good card w/possibility of upgrading to SLI > 2 mediocre cards with no possibility of upgrading later on.

Games only get more graphic intense...not less.
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January 19, 2011 9:53:17 PM

Yeah I'll probably wait a bit longer. I understand where your coming from.

Also if you could clear something up, from what I'm used to the 4 seats on a Mobo for RAM you tend to use 2 of them for one type of RAM and 2 for another. And usually not both at the same time.

My current mobo support both DDR2 and DDR3 but I'm unsure as to whether you could use both types so having 2x 1GB's of DDR2 and 2x 1GB of DDR3.

Oh the Asrock Mobo are all 4 seats usable as in I could get 2x 2GB now, and another 2x in the future of the same type?
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January 19, 2011 9:59:46 PM

MrFwar said:
Yeah I'll probably wait a bit longer. I understand where your coming from.

Also if you could clear something up, from what I'm used to the 4 seats on a Mobo for RAM you tend to use 2 of them for one type of RAM and 2 for another. And usually not both at the same time.

My current mobo support both DDR2 and DDR3 but I'm unsure as to whether you could use both types so having 2x 1GB's of DDR2 and 2x 1GB of DDR3.

Oh the Asrock Mobo are all 4 seats usable as in I could get 2x 2GB now, and another 2x in the future of the same type?


These boards only use dual channel DDR3. 2x2 gigs being the most popular for gamers. With the price drop in RAM, a lot more peeps are getting 2x4 gig sticks...this way they have 8 gigs of RAM and still have two RAM slots open on their mobo so that they have the option to add another 2x4 gigs of RAM later on.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY... <---- 2x2 gigs of RAM... 2 sticks of 2gig RAM

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY... <---2x4 gigs of RAM...2 sticks of 4gig RAM
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January 20, 2011 11:07:28 AM

Would you have the 2x4? or stick with the 2x2? Is the extra £50 worth it?
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January 20, 2011 2:59:53 PM

MrFwar said:
Would you have the 2x4? or stick with the 2x2? Is the extra £50 worth it?

If your primary use is for gaming... 2x2 gigs myself. I mean you can always add another 4 gigs later on.
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January 20, 2011 6:17:26 PM

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/177749

Thoughts?

I was thinking about getting a slightly sturdier case, as apparently having side fans in the one you suggested causes vibration noise. And if the graphics is £200 rather than the £300 I've estimated it at, I'll have an extra £100 to play around with.

Infact, reading up on that it doens't seem that good of a case anymore.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

This looks like an upgraded version of what you sent me.
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January 20, 2011 6:48:33 PM

MrFwar said:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/177749

Thoughts?

I was thinking about getting a slightly sturdier case, as apparently having side fans in the one you suggested causes vibration noise. And if the graphics is £200 rather than the £300 I've estimated it at, I'll have an extra £100 to play around with.

Those Scouts are nice cases, but they are more for a LAN set up. They get a bit cramped due to lack of size, especially if you plan on adding an after market h/s. If so...you most likely have to remove a case fan. That and the psu it comes with isn't all that great imo.

Try this one down below...same looks, a lot more room to work with.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164961 £101.26 inc. vat Free Delivery
Coolermaster HAF 922 Mid Tower Case - No PSU

Here's a rockin deal on a gtx 260

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/233611 £125.13 inc. vat Free Delivery
PNY Geforce GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics card

For an absolute STEAL on RAM...check this out...I found it yesterday for another UK build. Mushkin is about as good as it gets for quality RAM imo.

https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/4GB...(2x2GB)+DDR3+PC3-10666+9-9-9-24+Silverline+-+996768+?productId=41783 £34.99 inc. VAT
4GB Mushkin (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666 9-9-9-24 Silverline

Now if you want the interior of that case in "black"...it's easy as pie and takes all of a few minutes. :) 

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Gloss-Metal-Spray-Paint-Black/i... <---grab a can of that...better yet though...a "flat black for stoves is ideal". It's high temp paint, and it's not glossy...works better and looks better.
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January 20, 2011 6:56:26 PM

I saw the HAF in other recommendations but the £100 put me off a bit, I'll see what I've got to play around with.

I thought you recommended me wait to get a single 560? and then another in the future rather than 2 medicore ones.
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January 20, 2011 7:08:26 PM

MrFwar said:
I saw the HAF in other recommendations but the £100 put me off a bit, I'll see what I've got to play around with.

I thought you recommended me wait to get a single 560? and then another in the future rather than 2 medicore ones.

Correct... A single 560 for now is the best and only way to go. It's just that price ...looked good. :D 

UK hardware has really come down in price over the last few years. btw...I was looking at that "overclockers.uk forums" you linked me to, and they are hitting over 5.1ghz stable on those 2500k's. :sol: 
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January 20, 2011 7:23:34 PM

Pft. Down in price? our VAT just went up, the countries economy is dying haha. Newegg has like epic deals and amazing stuff, and then theres this microcenter which apparently sells everything cheap. You have it lucky :p 

But yeah I saw a review of people get 5.1 on systems without using watercooling, pretty impressive :p  I mean i've seen threads saying the k series is crap, I don't agree..

I do like that HAF 922.. Oh too many parts!

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-176...

Check that out, same price as the other one I was looking at..

Oh that might of swayed the vote for me ;D
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January 20, 2011 7:42:07 PM

MrFwar said:
Pft. Down in price? our VAT just went up, the countries economy is dying haha. Newegg has like epic deals and amazing stuff, and then theres this microcenter which apparently sells everything cheap. You have it lucky :p 

But yeah I saw a review of people get 5.1 on systems without using watercooling, pretty impressive :p  I mean i've seen threads saying the k series is crap, I don't agree..

I do like that HAF 922.. Oh too many parts!

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-176...

Check that out, same price as the other one I was looking at..

Oh that might of swayed the vote for me ;D

Not a bad price :)  Just make sure they don't bugger ya on the shipping.

http://www.coolermaster.co.uk/product.php?category_id=3... <---here's more info on that case.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA... <--- Now this case is well worth taking a look at...especially for that price, and it also has more room than the CM Scout.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA... THIS WEEK ONLY OFFER was £66.98 inc VAT
£63.98 inc VAT
Coolermaster HAF 912 Plus Case - Black

http://www.coolermaster.co.uk/product.php?category_id=1... <--- Here's more info on that case
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January 20, 2011 8:10:41 PM

I had some bad reviews from that CM scout so its off the list of possibles. Also that 912 would require me buying an extra 200mm for the roof, as its not included, and a possible side as I will be overclocking the graphics card probably.

Could you find any other PSU's the fact that the Pro edition is discontinued is a little off putting :p 

My last pc, I brought everything (including a antec 300) from ebuyer, free delivery for any time within 5 days..

I brought the graphics card from scan.co.uk, for next day delivery for a deal of £1.99. Apparently my whole shipping was with the same courier, so it all got shipped out for next day delivery, as because both companies used the same courier the ebuyer shipping got sent with the scan one. I was well pleased ;D
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January 20, 2011 8:28:24 PM

These 560's are going to use more juice than the 460's of course, and seeing how your going to most likely o/c...a solid 750w will do the trick..and still leave you a bit extra.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/245669 £91.90 inc. vat Free Delivery
Antec 750W High Current Gamer - 80plus Bronze 13.5cm Fan 4x PCI-E 9x SATA
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January 20, 2011 8:30:22 PM

Can I express my love for you in physical methods? ;D
Shame its not modular.

I do really likethe look of that PSU, its just the lack of modular cabling means alot of tiding away. Recommend any others?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/235550
Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 700W Modular PSU
£92.92

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134677
Corsair 750W TX PSU - 120mm Fan, 80+% Efficiency, Single +12V Rail
£91.90

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147047
Coolermaster Silent Pro 700W Modular PSU - Single 12V Rail with 50A
£91.90

Thoughts?
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January 21, 2011 9:03:40 PM

omfg.

Intel Core i7 2600k
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Cooler
Asus P8P67 Pro Motherboard
4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 Memory
£413.99 inc VAT

?!?!? Today only but its not the RAM I was gonna get.. But it is an i7 and the better motherboard..
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January 21, 2011 10:01:19 PM

Just FYI, as I didn't get a reply in time, I purchased the deal, it was too good to pass up really, and the asus p8p67 was something I wanted to buy anyway, and an i7 with hyperthreading should make the system very future proof.

Still going to look through the PSU's, Graphics Cards and Cases though.

The RAM is only £50 to buy the ripjawX so if I'm unhappy with the corsair its nothing back to replace them really.
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January 22, 2011 9:43:18 AM

MrFwar said:
Just FYI, as I didn't get a reply in time, I purchased the deal, it was too good to pass up really, and the asus p8p67 was something I wanted to buy anyway, and an i7 with hyperthreading should make the system very future proof.

Still going to look through the PSU's, Graphics Cards and Cases though.

The RAM is only £50 to buy the ripjawX so if I'm unhappy with the corsair its nothing back to replace them really.


You got a steal on that combo ! Nice nice and very nice:) 

btw I found this Silverstone psu on the scan site. Silverstone and Seasonic psu's are about as good as it gets imo.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-silverstone-strider... £94.76 Inc VAT
Silverstone Tech. SST-ST75F-P Strider Plus 750W Modular Power Supply (PSU)

http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?p... <--- more info on that psu here
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January 22, 2011 1:50:45 PM

Yeah couple years ago, scan wasn't that great on prices, but christ, I've just checked every part I was getting from ebuyer > scan, and scan has been cheaper on all of them minus the memory which they didn't sell at all.

The only thing I saw off about that was there was no switch on the PSU. I noticed the non plus version did have a switch though, curious to what the differences are I couldn't find enough reviews comparing the too, or actually stating they are different products.
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