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New UK Build £650 or less - Want To Be Sure

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August 24, 2010 4:47:50 PM

Hello!

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next week

BUDGET RANGE: £650 after VAT

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Music Production, Rendering, Media, Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Soundcard, Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Any trusted UK retailer eg, Scan, overlockers, microdirect

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: England

PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD, ATI, Gigabyte Mobo (for TI based firewire)

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe in the future

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Would like it to be quiet

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Parts that I have currently chosen after reading a few peoples other builds etc, I am not sure on which RAM to get so would like to be advised on that.

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H, AMD 890GX, S AM3, PCI-E 2.0, DDR3 1866(OC), USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, SATA RAID £105

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 BlackEdition, Sok AM3, 3.2GHz, 8MB Total Cache, 125W, Retail £111.50

CPU COOLING: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro v2.1 - S1366/S1156/S775/AM3/AM2+/AM2/939 £15

RAM: 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3 PC3-12800(1600), CAS 7-8-7-20, XMP, DHX, New Connectors, 1.65V £105

OR

RAM: 4GB(2x2GB) Corsair TwinX Dom GT, DDR3 PC3-16000 (2000), CAS 8-9-8-24, DHX, Connector,XMP, DF, 1.65V 105 £105

HDD: 1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, OEM £45

GPU: 1GB XFX HD5770, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 4800MHz GDDR5, GPU 850MHz, Cores 800, 2x DL DVI-I/HDMI £126

ODD: Sony DDU1681S-0B 18x DVD-Rom SMART-X Sata Black OEM £12.50

CASE: Antec Three Hundred Illusion £45

PSU: 650W Corsair CMPSU-650TX, SLi/Xfire,Single 12V Rail, 80%+ Efficient, 120mm Quiet Fan, ATX12V v2.2 £60

EXTRA INTAKE FANS: 120mm Akasa AK-174BK-S Black Case Fan, 3 Pin, Sleeve Bearing Ultra Quiet (17dBA) Retail Package x 3 £15

Total £640

If anyone could have a look over it and let me know about the RAM and if there's anything wrong with it that'd be really great.

Thanks



More about : build 650

August 24, 2010 6:05:07 PM

Thats an Antec 300 black, not a 300 illusion. The only difference is the illusion model comes with two front blue LED fans already installed.

The freezer pro 7 is only a 92mm fan. A 120mm fan tower cooler would be quieter.

You dont have anything hot in the case, you probably dont need the extra case fans.
August 24, 2010 6:58:34 PM

ah yes so it is, not really that bothered about the lights anyway. I'll swap the 92mm fan for a 120mm one and probably not bother with the extra intake fans, thanks for the advice.

Could anyone tell me which ram would be most appropriate for the build out of these two;

RAM: 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3 PC3-12800(1600), CAS 7-8-7-20, XMP, DHX, New Connectors, 1.65V £105

OR

RAM: 4GB(2x2GB) Corsair TwinX Dom GT, DDR3 PC3-16000 (2000), CAS 8-9-8-24, DHX, Connector,XMP, DF, 1.65V 105 £105
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August 24, 2010 7:07:22 PM

The freezer pro wont fit a 120mm fan. Its a smaller cooler.

There is not much benefit in going above ddr3-1600. Cas7 will give you better options when overclocking. Corsair is good RAM, but has recently been pretty expensive. You might find some Geil, Gskill or Mushkin at the same specs for less.
August 24, 2010 7:25:43 PM

Thing is, if you check this article and this page in particular: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/lga-1156-heatsink,review-... It shows the Freezer Pro 7 beating a few 120mm coolers in terms of noise. If the number in the chart is to be believed (29dBA) then the Freezer Pro 7 is actually quite quiet. Ergo fan size isn't everything.

This is a good list of coolers that will definitely be quiet: http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_Heatsinks

You can get RAM with the same specs for less: Corsair XMS3 Classic 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600Mhz PC3-12800 CAS 7-8-7-20, 1.65V CMX4GX3M2A1600C7 £93. Definitely don't get the TwinX Dom GT set, as RAM coolers definitely aren't quiet. The only thing Dominators are good for is overclocking the actual memory itself, and seeing as you only put a 'maybe' next to OCing then I doubt you'd need Dominators.

The graphics card (pretty much any graphics card) will be a major source of noise in a computer. A stock 5770, while potentially much better than many, can still produce between 40 and 50dBA of noise, depending on the load. If you're serious about quiet then give your graphics card either more thought or more money to get one with a better fan on it - maybe replace the stock fan if that is cheaper - doubtful. Usually for a quiet graphics card I suggest a 5770 Vapor-X, as these only produce ~30dBA, but they cost ~£150, which would probably push your budget a bit.
August 24, 2010 10:29:20 PM

Silvune said:
Thing is, if you check this article and this page in particular: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/lga-1156-heatsink,review-... It shows the Freezer Pro 7 beating a few 120mm coolers in terms of noise. If the number in the chart is to be believed (29dBA) then the Freezer Pro 7 is actually quite quiet. Ergo fan size isn't everything.
You missed the last chart on that page, the cooling per noise chart. The smaller freezer pro outputs more noise per cooling than all but that crappy Frio. The chart you were looking at was a "full load" comparison. Look at the temperature at full load. The freezer pro is 20 degrees warmer than the larger coolers.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/lga-1156-heatsink,review-...
The lower cooling potential of the smaller cooler means that its going to hit full load and run at its noisiest while the larger coolers are still calming whirling along at half their max speed. Unless you run PRIME95 on your computer all day, the 120mm coolers wont get up to their full load, the smaller cooler will have to ramp up fan speed much sooner under normal workloads.

Regardless of the technical nitpicking, the Freezer pro is a good 92mm cooler and will handle light overclocking and normal room temperatures just fine. If you want to do a strong overclock and/or live in a room that get hot during the summer then a larger cooler is worth considering.
August 25, 2010 5:58:48 AM

antronica said:
ah yes so it is, not really that bothered about the lights anyway. I'll swap the 92mm fan for a 120mm one and probably not bother with the extra intake fans, thanks for the advice.

Could anyone tell me which ram would be most appropriate for the build out of these two;

RAM: 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3 PC3-12800(1600), CAS 7-8-7-20, XMP, DHX, New Connectors, 1.65V £105

OR

RAM: 4GB(2x2GB) Corsair TwinX Dom GT, DDR3 PC3-16000 (2000), CAS 8-9-8-24, DHX, Connector,XMP, DF, 1.65V 105 £105


The One With The Lower Latency
August 25, 2010 8:01:10 AM

Check out these guys www.uber-ware.co.uk, tho I got a 10% discount on mine, which might of been why it was such a good deal.
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