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February 6, 2010 8:43:44 PM

Hi there ! Ineed little help with my build of HTPC .I have search so many pages :o  of components parts and always something new come up i'm tyred of searching ,i need HTPC
able to play and write Blu ray ,do some gaming (not the superb games just some) video playback of h264,mkv..etc.files ,internet surf ,watch tv and record,connect my satbox(if possible),wifi-bluetooth,and all running on win7.and 58" plasma full hd tv.



APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ( this month BUDGET RANGE: (up to £600 bid more if have to... )

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (watching movies,gaming, surfing the internet, Folding@Home,)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: ( monitor ,speakers) **

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: ( CCL Computing.com) COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: (e.g.:????)

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: ( 1920x1080,)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: ( I would like a quiet as possible HTPC)


I Have choose this two cases:

BLACK-THERMALTAKE-DH101-VF7001BNS-HTPC-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-THERMALTAKE-DH101-VF7001BNS...

......... OR.........

Antec-Fusion-Remote-Desktop-Media-HTPC-Case-Black-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Antec-Fusion-Remote-Desktop-Media...

If someone would like to help me please with this build and what case would be better I WILL BE REALY HAPPY :bounce:  ;) 

Thank you
February 7, 2010 11:36:08 AM

Which os is it, w7 or linux? I'm thinking w7. You need to factor in the os price.

What games or kinds of games do you play? Football management?
February 7, 2010 2:58:26 PM

Thank you for respond ,it is windows 7 ultimate ,and the games hmm..flash games from internet,and i have some games like tomb raider ,fifa 2009,tiger woods golf,...etc...nothing special......

this is what i have found but im not sure! i thing it is over £700 i need to cut somewhere
maybe i'll go for microATX and GPU build in i don't know?


CPU: Core i5 750 2.66GHz LGA1156,

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500A LED, with Zalman ZM-CS5B Clip Kit for Socket 1156/775, (necessary to attach the cooler to the LGA1156 socket).

Motherboard: ASRock P55 Extreme LGA1156 Intel P55 chipset ATX,

Memory: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ DDR3-1600 2 x 2GB Kit,

Graphics Card (ATI): HIS H575FN1GD iCooler IV Radeon HD 5750 GDDR5 1GB,
OR
Graphics Card (NVIDIA): XFX GS-250X-ZDFU GeForce GTS 250 DDR3 1GB,

HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps, or 1TB?

PSU: Enermax MODU82+ 625W EMD625AWT, A cheaper alternative is Corsair TX650W CMPSU-650TX 650W


so what do you thing !

thank you one more time for respond........
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February 7, 2010 3:34:49 PM

OR MAYBE THIS ONE ............



CPU: Core i3 530 2.93GHz LGA1156,

CPU Cooler: Xigmatek NEPARTAK S983F, If cannot find it,i choose Xigmatek NEPARTAK S983, along with Xigmatek Crossbow ACK-I5361,

Motherboard: ASRock P55 Extreme LGA1156 Intel P55 chipset ATX,

Memory: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ DDR3-1600 2 x 2GB Kit,

Graphics Card (ATI): HIS H567Q512 Radeon HD 5670 GDDR5 512MB, $100. An alternative is Sapphire HD 5670 512GB GDDR5,
or
Graphics Card (NVIDIA): ASUS ENGT240/DI/512MD5/A GeForce GT 240 GDDR5 512MB,

HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps,or 1TB

PSU: Corsair VX550W CMPSU-550VX 550W, An alternative is Enermax ECO80+ 500W EES500AWT

Any idea what would be better and silence as possible .
I didn't post the tv card and optical drive still looking for some.........
February 8, 2010 11:24:51 AM

The Thermaltake looks perfect, but the cooling is 12cm front & 60mm x 2 back. The Antec has the perfect cooling: 12cm back, but the LCD is SO tiny. The TT has many vents all around, so I think it will make up for the lack of exhaust cooling.

i3 is fine for your usage as well as i5, but the cards you listed above are not as good as HD 5770 which would be the best for you. Not sure which Tomb Raider it is. The original is very lightweight while Underworld is kinda demanding. FIFA 09 out of your list is the most demanding game. If you plan to play it on 1080p, you should get a powerful GPU like the HD 5770. The cpu is not very important to your games. None of which uses quad cores.

All of the mentioned GPUs require a 500W PSU. So you can get away with Enermax ECO80+ 500W or Corsair VX550W.

Not sure where you're shopping the parts. http://www.cclonline.com/ ? I'll revise what you listed.

CPU: Core i3 530 2.93GHz LGA1156,

MOBO: ASRock P55 Extreme LGA1156 Intel P55 chipset ATX,

RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ DDR3-1600 2 x 2GB Kit,

GPU: HD 5770 > 5750 or GTS 250 > 240 (240 is rubbish for your games)

HDD: Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps,or 1TB

PSU: Corsair VX550W CMPSU-550VX 550W, An alternative is Enermax ECO80+ 500W EES500AWT (whichever is cheaper)

Basically, try to fit the best GPU in your build.
February 8, 2010 1:55:14 PM

It does not make a lot of sense to drop a ATI HD 5xxx card into a Core i3-530/H55 system. The major feature that you're paying for with i3-530/H55 is the on-board graphics and HTPC features like HD playback, HD audio bitstreaming, etc.. If you drop an 5xxx discrete card into this platform, you've defeated the on-board graphics, especially at the HD5670 level where you're not going to get great gaming and you've also duplicated the feature set wasting the $100-$150 you spend on the graphics card.

It's also not necessary to right away go out and get an aftermarket cooler for these low TDP parts. Install what comes with the CPU and then decide if it's too noisy. My experience has been about 50/50 and it's easy to swap it out later.

Since your priorities are media, I would go with this build:

Core i3 530 2.93GHz LGA1156 CPU
ASUS P7H55-M PRO LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherbo ard
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ DDR3-1600 2 x 2GB Kit
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB or 1TB HDD (depending on your needs)
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W 80 PLUS PSU

The 450W PSU will be enough to run a HD5750 or 5770 if you decide later you do want a discrete GPU after all. You can actually calculate your power needs here: http://www.antec.outervision.com/ just be sure to leave yourself at least 25% headroom.

Also, one of the nice things about that mobo is it includes a simple BIOS feature to increase the clock speed of the Core i3 GPU if you find you need a little more horsepower.

I also think either HTPC case is a good one and it just depends on your personal preferences as for features, looks, etc. I am a big Antec fan but I won't insert my bias here :) .
February 8, 2010 4:21:16 PM

Hi guys thank you for help and advices :bounce: 

I propably go for the TT case it is more space so i can change the mobo micro ATX/standartATX, in future if needed.
i'll go for 1TB HDD for sure.
CPU-Core i3 530 2.93GHz LGA1156 for sure.

But the micro ATX mobo what Dougie Fresh posted looks to like lack of slots ? because i need two more things wifi bluetooth card and tv tunner/record card then no more space (extra).

wifi/bluetooth card--- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bluetooth-Wifi-PCI-Card-2-in-1-BR...

tv card---http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=12...
or if guys know anything better and around the price £50 please let me know :wahoo: 

So back to the standart components list.... if the i3 is ok without GPU and saves the money tumbs up. (i scratch my head now) :whistle: 
but on the ather hand the ATX mobo what p55ibexpeak posted is more spacious more slots i thing? then the micro ATX.

and question is will the both mobos send audio and video through HDMI cable to tv? i thing it will.(just a thought)

Ithing i'll try DOUGIE FRESH build looks more simple and cheaper but the mobo i like ATX more then micro? So what would be the good ATX mobo for that build?
how about the mobo what p55ibexpeak posted will that be ok?


sorry for my (i don't know ,i know) i'm bit new in this tech stuff

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hello: 
February 8, 2010 7:51:19 PM

To use the GPU onboard the Core i3-530 you need an H55, H57 (or maybe Q57?) motherboard. A P55 motherboard won't allow you to use the onboard graphics. The GPU is built into the CPU itself (the CPU and GPU actually sit side-by-side on the same chip) so you need the right motherboard northbridge to enable it.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=370...

If you go with the TT case, then yes you can use a ATX size motherboard. If you go with the Antec case it's micro-ATX tops. Since micro-ATX would fit both I suggested that motherboard. There is an Asus ATX H55 motherboard but it's nearly 2x as much money. I would look through reviews/Google/etc. to see which one is best. I don't have any feedback in that regard.

Here are some I found on a UK website. Intel, ASUS and Gigabyte are good brands.

http://www.shop.bt.com/products/intel-h55-lga775-atx-dd...
http://www.shop.bt.com/products/gigabyte-s1156-intel-h5...
February 9, 2010 2:01:16 PM

Thanks Dougie Fresh

So the finall the build will look like this.........?


CPU: Core i3 530 2.93GHz LGA1156,
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=42...


mobo:Gigabyte S1156 Intel H55 DDR3 ATX Audio & Gigabit Ethernet
http://www.shop.bt.com/products/gigabyte-s1156-intel-h5...


Memory:G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ DDR3-1600 2 x 2GB Kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/G.SKILL-f3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ-4GB-2x...


HDD:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=36...


GPU:no needed if i'm right(maybe in future)


PSU:Corsair VX550W CMPSU-550VX 550W
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CORSAIR-CMPSU-550VXEU-PC-Power-Un...


Wifi/Bluetooth:Bluetooth + Wifi PCI Card - 2 in 1 - BRAND NEW!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bluetooth-Wifi-PCI-Card-2-in-1-BR...


Tv Card:Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-T-500
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=12...


Case:BLACK-THERMALTAKE-DH101-VF7001BNS-HTPC-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-THERMALTAKE-DH101-VF7001BNS...


So what would you say guys will that meet my needs ,or is something wrong,if not lets go shopping :bounce: 


Thamk you all!!! :hello: 
February 9, 2010 2:38:22 PM

You could save few quid and get the CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W PSU and still have enough juice to run a HD57xx GPU in the future if need be.
February 10, 2010 5:18:45 AM

Ok i'll do that ! I just found blu ray LG burner so i will pop that in there as well.
Did you look on the tv a wifi card are they good or poor ?

just so i know!

thaks Dougie fresh :hello: 
February 10, 2010 5:03:38 PM

I'll leave tuner cards, wifi, bluetooth and such to the experts. I don't have any experience with them.
February 10, 2010 7:51:35 PM

frankly, I don't buy that i3 thing, is a dual core that has 2 logical cores in each physical core, meaning one limits the other in the button line, you can get this amd true quad http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=36... at a lower price, remember the you need a different mb.
also where are you from? that side offers only am2 cpus, an am3 cpu might cost less.
February 10, 2010 7:55:59 PM

also, how does igp play hd? the 4000\3000 amd igp play fhd without any problem
February 11, 2010 2:02:02 PM

Hi I'm from UK..So you saying this is no good? then what would be your build look like....in that budget £600 for HD/blu ray burning /playing BD movies /x264,mkv files/games/surf net/tv recording..etc..? all in the TT case.(I'll prefer Intell more) :hello:  thanks .
February 11, 2010 3:22:28 PM

danobar said:
Hi I'm from UK..So you saying this is no good? then what would be your build look like....in that budget £600 for HD/blu ray burning /playing BD movies /x264,mkv files/games/surf net/tv recording..etc..? all in the TT case.(I'll prefer Intell more) :hello:  thanks .

look, I don't know about the i3 igp's performance, I'll try to sum in up.
the igp will most likely be intel based, up until now, I haven't seen a intel based gpu that played every hd movie (including fhd) at a good manner what leaves you with the cores (there are players that decode using multiple cores) but the i3 has 2 cores, but they configure it on the hardware level to be able to run two processes in the same time, but there is still one core behind, it is that different then running 4 threads on a dual core (in the basic level), imho, the performance diff isn't that good.
imho, taking a bet on that igp is wrong.
don't get me wrong, intel has excellent cpus, I should know, I run a compilation based linux distribution where performance is almost all.
for the higher end, I'll recommend a i7 (haven't seen any i9 on my distribution benchmarks so I can't give a clear answer yet), for the higher gaming end I'll probably recommend the i5 but the i7 has it limits, first the socket will probably won't be kept long, I've read in numerus places that the 1336 is there heading now, also, 1156 mb cannot crossfire above 8x8.
for anything else you can get an excellent amd build.
for that budget, you can get a true quad or even the famous x3 720 with a discrete gpu (integrated gpu are pure crap for gaming!) that will suffice for some time.
in regards to the to must have intel, I can try a build a 775 q9xxx build but that isn't a good idea has that socket is dead.
the choice is yours.
February 11, 2010 3:24:15 PM

damm, for got words... :-S
4th line: "two processes in the same time on once core, but there is still one core behind, it isn't that different then running 4 threads"
February 11, 2010 5:33:34 PM

danobar, you've got a good HTPC build there with the i3/H55 combination. There are plenty of reviews and discussion threads to back that up. You can find them here on Tom's, Anandtech, and other places.

It's about what you want to do with the machine and what we've discussed. What you've selected fits that perfectly. If you were a client of mine, this is what I would build for you given what you've told me that you need to do with the system.

It's not about getting the fastest system possible. You don't need a quad-core for watching video or playing flash games. If you wanted to play Crysis at high-resolution then that'd be a different story.

It's about getting a system suited to your needs with good quality components for the best money. With an HTPC and flash gaming, it doesn't take much horsepower to do that. I can do 80% of what you want to do on my Dell 9300 laptop that's a Pentium M 1.6Ghz with Radeon X300 graphics. The i3/H55 is going to fly for what you want to do, is a modern platform and is well suited for your needs.

No worries.
February 11, 2010 6:04:06 PM

Dougie Fresh said:
danobar, you've got a good HTPC build there with the i3/H55 combination. There are plenty of reviews and discussion threads to back that up. You can find them here on Tom's, Anandtech, and other places.

It's about what you want to do with the machine and what we've discussed. What you've selected fits that perfectly. If you were a client of mine, this is what I would build for you given what you've told me that you need to do with the system.

It's not about getting the fastest system possible. You don't need a quad-core for watching video or playing flash games. If you wanted to play Crysis at high-resolution then that'd be a different story.

It's about getting a system suited to your needs with good quality components for the best money. With an HTPC and flash gaming, it doesn't take much horsepower to do that. I can do 80% of what you want to do on my Dell 9300 laptop that's a Pentium M 1.6Ghz with Radeon X300 graphics. The i3/H55 is going to fly for what you want to do, is a modern platform and is well suited for your needs.

No worries.

are there any benchmarks on the igp?
February 12, 2010 3:30:07 AM

Well, again, the OP wants an HTPC not a gaming rig. There are plenty of reviews available that show the Clarkdale platform is very well suited for that usage.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=370...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-clarkdale-cor...

Google "Clarkdale HTPC" if you'd like more.

I don't argue that there are faster builds. I argue they aren't necessary for the OP's requirements. Read any thread here or on avsforum for building a non-gaming HTPC rig and you'll find this is the currently recommended best architecture.




February 12, 2010 4:21:38 AM

thanks, will look into it.
February 12, 2010 2:28:15 PM

Hi guys sorry for my late post ...... busy a bit......


Dougie fresh i believe this is a great build and meets my needs ,and i have already start buying parts.

I know i will like it :wahoo: 

Thamk you all :hello: 
June 27, 2010 8:02:50 PM

Hi, I found this very informative in my quest to buld a HTPC, primarily for HDmedia playback via Blu-Ray and MKV and WMVHD.
I addition to the components below do I need to add a sound card? I want to output the sound and video over HDMI to my Onkyo AV receiver in lossless HD quality.

Intel Core i3 530 2.93Ghz (Clarkdale) (Socket LGA1156) Processor - Retail #39240 £ 79.99

Asus P7H55-M Intel H55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 PCI-Express Micro-ATX Motherboard #40151 £ 59.99

G.Skill ECO OC 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit #39537 £ 89.99

Western Digital WD20EARS 2TB Caviar Green 3.5" SATA II Hard Drive (OEM) #40039 £ 74.99

Antec Fusion Remote Media Center Desktop Case - Black #33879 £ 93.99

Antec TruePower New Series 550W Modular Power Supply #40131 £ 64.30

Samsung SH-B083L 8x Internal Blu Ray ROM/DVD±RW SATA Drive - Black #39370 £ 43.99
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