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General/Gaming PC (Dual screen) £650 ($1000)

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April 11, 2010 4:28:12 PM

Hi
I am looking for some advise on a new system I intend to build. I am currently in the very early stages of building so any of my suggestions and by no means fixed.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This month

BUDGET RANGE: £650 ($1000)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: General (surfing, small amounts of media editing), occasional gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Don't mind. Can be a mix of different sites. I am looking on www.ebuyer.co.uk for the moment

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: England

PARTS PREFERENCES: No peferences (early in planning)

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe (only if necessary)

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe (probably not needed)

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Dual monitors:
I will be using my 17" monitor (1280x1024)
I also want to buy a 22"-24" widescreen LCD to use dually with the 17" monitor (suggestions on this would be good, budget = £150)

OTHER COMMENTS:
OS is not needed. I will be using Windows 7.
I want a BluRay internal drive and I have put aside £80 for this (below).

So, what I have at the moment:
CPU/Mobo/Memory: Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz and Asus M4A785TD-M EVO 785G - £193
Case: Casecom KJ-3391 - £25
PSU: Arctic Power 700W - £42
Memory: (2Gb already in above combo) Kingston DDR3 2GB 1333 - £45
Hard Drive: WD5001AALS 500GB 7200rpm - £49
BD Drive: Samsung SH-B083L - £80
Monitor: Acer V243HLbmd 24" - £157
Graphics Card: This is where I get a bit stuck. I will need it to do dual monitors but I only have £60 left in my budget. I would therefore be looking to cut back a little bit on something else in order to get a better graphics card.

Total = £591 (+ Graphics card)

Also, I don't have to use eBuyer. If anyone has any better UK retailers, please tell me.

None of the above is set in stone so please feel free to rip it shreds if you need to. I think the 2 most important things for me at the moment is the BD player and the dual screen (with the new widescreen monitor).

Thanks for any help.

James
April 11, 2010 6:55:51 PM

I'd prefer if you went for a power supply that is more likely to be reliable. But the wattage is determined by the graphics card(s), so I will suggest one first. I suggest an ATI Radeon HD 4670 £56. It is capable of reaching quite high framerates (50ish) in some newish FPS games. You will have to keep in mind the connectors that your displays have/will have. The one I linked looks like it has DVI, VGA and HDMI.
These cards use around 70watts, so you will not need much power for that. I reckon your system under full load will use around 270W, so a good 400W will do Corsair 400W CX £42 The motherboard in that bundle only has one PCI-E slot so unless you want to be able to replace that card at some point then you don't need more.

This harddrive is based on a 500GB platter which means that it's faster, quieter and cooler, it is also cheaper. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB £40
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April 11, 2010 8:37:07 PM

Thanks for the quick reply.

ATI Radeon HD 4670 - I was thinking something a bit better than that. The mobo has as on-board HD 4200 so I am not sure the 4670 would be much better?
Also, therefore is it worth considering a cheaper mobo that doesn't have as good an on-board graphics chip so that I can spend more on the graphics card?

Thanks for the PSU suggestion, I will take a look at that.

That HD does look better thanks, I will use that instead.
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April 11, 2010 9:34:53 PM

Ok, if you want more money to put towards a graphics card and a PSU that is capable of powering it, then the first thing to do is change to a less expensive Bluray player LiteOn iHOS104 Blu-Ray Reader & DVD-Rom Serial ATA Internal Black - OEM £53 As messing with that bundle is unlikely to save you much money.

Have a look at these:

I believe these show that a 4670 is much better than onboard.
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April 12, 2010 10:30:57 AM

A cheaper BD player is a good idea and I have used liteon before.

I will look into the graphics cards more. Obviously I not understand them properly.

Is the CPU or graphics card a bottle neck this configuration?
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April 12, 2010 11:33:33 AM

Well if you now have at least an extra £20, then you can easily afford a 5670: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190138
Which uses no more power than a 4670 does and as you can see from the first pic above is more powerful than a 4670. So you would not need to change PSU.
No, your CPU does not limit your graphics cards, it is only graphics cards these days which limit game performance.
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April 12, 2010 7:05:53 PM

Thanks for the replies. This is what I have so far based on your replies:

CPU/Mobo/Memory: Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz and Asus M4A785TD-M EVO 785G - £193
Memory: (2Gb already in above combo) Kingston DDR3 2GB 1333 - £45
Hard Drive: Seagate ST3500418AS 500GB 7200rpm - £40
BD Drive: LiteOn iHOS104 - £52
Case/PSU: Coolermaster Elite 330 and 460W - £60
Monitor: Acer V243HLbmd 24" - £157
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770 512MB - £113

Total: £660
So £10 over budget, but I am pretty sure I can strech to that.

Re Graphics cards:
Is the one listed above good enough to support dual screens, one running at 1280x1024 and the other 1920x1200?
Also, is that card much different to: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190974

Thanks.
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April 13, 2010 7:13:04 PM

*Bump*

Could I get any more opinions on the above setup?

Thanks
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April 14, 2010 5:52:56 PM

Try to get a combo without RAM, you never know the voltage so it my not match the one on your added RAM. The rest is fine.
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April 14, 2010 5:59:17 PM

He could find out after building the rig, by either looking in the bios or by downloading and running CPU-Z.
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