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£600 Gaming PC - New Build - Replacement for Borked ACER from Ebuyer

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March 8, 2010 1:26:00 PM

Hi All,

I bought a pre-built ACER for my partner last July, it was borked from the start but I have only just managed to get Ebuyer to admit the problems and offer me a replacement. Problem is the PC is no longer stocked (No surprise there eh), so I have a £600 credit note in my Ebuyer account with which to either purchase a new pre-built, or build my own. It's been a while since I've looked at building a PC (3 years or so) so I haven't really kept up with the curve on hardware.

None of the pre-built PC's below £600 are equal to the one I purchased (it was on offer from £900), so I'm leaning towards building from scratch. Parts can only come from Ebuyer due to the credit note, and my partner is getting on my back to get this sorted ASAP so looking for a quick order turn around. To that end I've come to you...

Taken from the *How To Ask For New Build Advice*:

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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week (yesterday would have been nice)

BUDGET RANGE: £600 (maybe a little more if necessary)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Internet

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers,

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: www.ebuyer.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: England

PARTS PREFERENCES: No real preference, I used to go for AMD but whatever works best. Must have Windows 7 included.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1600x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: quiet PC would be nice, but to be honest just something which works and has room for upgrades over the coming years. Prefer a full sized case rather than SFF.

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I do have another option, I can give my partner my current PC (Not spoken to her about it yet but I think she'd be happy with mine.) This would give me a slightly larger budget, but some higher requirements:

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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week (yesterday would have been nice)

BUDGET RANGE: £800 - £1000 (Prefer the lower end)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, 3D Design (3DSMax), Internet, Media Streaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers,

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: www.ebuyer.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: England

PARTS PREFERENCES: No real preference, I used to go for AMD but whatever works best. Must have Windows 7 included.
Thinking of getting a Razer Naga - Has anybody any thoughts on this mouse?

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe - believe this would be great benefit for 3D work.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1600x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: quieter PC would be nice, room for upgrades over the coming years. Prefer a full sized case rather than SFF.

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Any other questions please let me know, and I hope to hear from ya'll soon

Thanks in advance,

Urza
March 8, 2010 2:30:27 PM

Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz Socket LGA1156 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755

G-Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 Ripjaw Memory Kit

Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache

Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 P55 Socket 1156 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/194679

HIS HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Display Port Out PCI-E Graphics Card

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191864

antec EarthWatts 500W 80%+ Efficiency PSU - 80mm Fan 4x SATA 2x PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120377

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173791

antec 300

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854

Total:£736.12

or and amd option just switch this

Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H 890GX Socket AM3 HDMI DVI VGA Out 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/197546

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3 3.2 GHz 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190673

with those changes it is £688.50

but they will perform eqaully for the most part the intel will be ahead on encoding and rendering but the amd is a bit cheaper
























March 8, 2010 3:07:07 PM

Thanks Obsidian, you've detailed pretty much what I had been looking at.

A few questions:

Would it be worth my looking at 6GB RAM for "Tri-Channel". I've seen it bandied about on a lot although it may have only been for the i7 processors. (doesn't appear to be supported with the Mobo listed however)

Are benefits from Crossfire worth shelling out a bit more for? If so which two GPU's should I replace the 5770 with? (Gaming and 3DSMax rendering)

I'm going to need a case too, is it worth getting a bundle eg:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167439
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135101

Or just buying a bog standard case and putting the PSU you listed above in? (If I went with the Crossfire option those bundles don't have second PCI-E supply.)

All in all, you're on the same wavelength I was with what to throw into it so glad to know I've not completely lost the plot over the last few years.

Thanks again,

Urza
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March 8, 2010 3:22:50 PM

6gb ram is for the higher i7 9xx series systems eg 3,6,12,24 sticks of ram the lower end i7 8xx and i5 and i3 systems use dual channel eg 2,4,8,12,16 ect sticks of ram

the lower end cooler master cases arent too good on cooling and the low end cooler master power supplies are not worth mentioning you could buy a bog standard case and put in the power supply but i picked the antec 300 becase it has the right balance of space and functionality

i dont think 3ds uses dual graphics cards at all but as time goes on it should catch on in applications but i'd rather stick to one card and as a side note the i5 board is not too good at crossfire since the second pcie slaot runs at x4 unlike the amd board running at x8 and you will most likely need a bigger power suppply 600watts+ to run crossfire the second cable on the antec powe supply is for the power hungry cards that use 2 pci power cables
March 8, 2010 3:46:17 PM

Thanks again,

I'd guessed as much with the RAM just wanted to be sure.

I went and looked for some Cooler Master "reviews" and came to the conclusion you'd reply as you did. I think you forgot to include the case in your original post, I've looked at then Antec 300 and that's fine.

Again thanks for your advice on the Crossfire. I've only recently started teaching myself the 3DS so wasn't sure on it's requirements anyway. I'd noticed the pcie on the intel board that was going to be a follow up question had you not pre-empted it in your reply.

So going along the lines that I'll be passing off my current PC to my partner, and building this for myself from scratch I think the final order is going to be:

Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz Socket LGA1156 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor 172755 £164.19

G-Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 Ripjaw Memory Kit CL7(7-8-7-24) 1.65V 180490 £94.99

Antec 300 Three Hundred Case 143854 £43.63

Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM 173804 £60.44

Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 P55 Socket 1156 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard 194679 £104.99

HIS HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Display Port Out PCI-E Graphics Card 191864 £125.54

Antec EarthWatts 500W 80%+ Efficiency PSU - 80mm Fan 4x SATA 2x PCI-E 120377 £59.48

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English 173791 £76.52

Razer Naga MMO Gaming Mouse 176741 £59.99

Cart total inc vat: £789.77

If you could just confirm I've picked everything up correctly and make sure I haven't missed anything out, and I'll probably be putting in my order this evening.

Also if anybody else has any suggestions/wants to yell at my decisions, please feel free.

Urza
March 8, 2010 5:07:33 PM

yeah sorry bout the case ,its been a long day but your order looks good have fun and good luck .your cart looks like an excellent choice


will you be delving into overclocking one day you might wanna consider a good aftermarket cpu cooler but hey only if you wanna overclock right away but it cant hurt to be prepared

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coolermaster-Hyper-212-P...
March 9, 2010 9:27:13 AM

Need to replace that HDD, apparently the Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM 173804 £60.44 is no longer in stock.....

Worth going for one of these:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146252

and sucking up the loss of GB/£, or is there a comparable priced/quality 1TB drive there?
March 9, 2010 2:44:32 PM

the samsung f3 drives are currently the best in its class the only onne currently matching them is seagate but if you can live with 500gb its fine
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