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December 26, 2009 9:02:19 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week.

BUDGET RANGE: £900

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, movies, surfy

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: I am a long time user of ebuyer.com but if there is a better shop ou there I will use it

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:
UK

PARTS PREFERENCES: No pref, havn't built a new system in years

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, planning on taking the i7 to 3.2, I've read you can manage this on the stock cooler till I have the money to upgrade it?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050 reusing my 22" monitor, only had a couple of dead pixels

Here is what I have so far, I still havn't chosen a gfx card I was thinking of the 5770 seems to be in my price range but are there better choices out there I could get?

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CPU: Intel Core i7 920 D0 2.66GHz Socket 1366 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor (£220.31)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151477
I've read that this can be overclocked to 3.2 comfortably on the stock cooler?

MOBO: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 iX58 Socket 1366 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard (£198.30)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159455
Should I go with this P6T or one of the cheaper versions?

RAM: Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz XMS3 Dominator Memory CL8(8-8-8--24) for i7 Motherboards (£154.99)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152641

HDD: Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM (£66.68)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804

PSU/CASE BUNDLE: Coolermaster Sileo Quiet Case With 500W Extreme Power Plus PSU *Special Offer Bundle* (£79.98)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167439
Not sure about the case, the supply looks ok to me it looks pretty nice and its got the foam padding for reduced noise, don't know how that will affect cooling though?

GFX: I don't know, I was thinking of the 5770?


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Please any advice/help is welcome,

Thanks.


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December 26, 2009 9:48:18 AM

You don't think its worth going for the i7? I was thinking it would be better to get ready for it now.

How about this case:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779
With another 120mm fan

and this PSU:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127861
OCZ Stealth XStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm Fan

I also use usenet alot and torrents when I can't find what I'm looking for
December 26, 2009 10:06:52 AM

What do you think regarding gfx card daz?
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December 26, 2009 10:25:22 AM

Thanks daz
December 26, 2009 10:29:39 AM

Do take into account that Nvidia and ATI's 4XXX series don't support DirectX11, eat power and are noisy. The ATI 5770 might be a little weaker, but it's worth it.
December 26, 2009 10:39:39 AM

The 5850 is the got the best performance/price ratio. If you can afford one, get it. Definitely one of the better cards you can get now. You might need to upgrade the PSU to like one with 550 or 600, just to be sure.

December 26, 2009 11:50:42 AM

CPU
Intel Core i7 920 D0 2.66GHz Socket 1366 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151477

HDD
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804

RAM
Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz XMS3 Dominator Memory CL8(8-8-8--24) for i7 Motherboards
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152641

MOBO
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 iX58 Socket 1366 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159455

CASE
NZXT Beta Black Mid Tower Case with Painted Black Interior- No PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170039

GFX
Asus HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161725

PSU
OCZ ModXStream 600W PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174182

Should I go for a higher wattage PSU? This is totaling at £896.71 is it worth investing more to future proof it or not?

Comments again please guys ;) 
December 26, 2009 12:17:22 PM

Sorry, but this is a sub-par gaming build. You invested heavily in a CPU that performs very poorly at games and cut back on the single most important component in a gaming build: the GPU.

The intel i5-750 and corresponding dual channel memory and 1156 motherboard is a superior gaming CPU at a far lower cost. The money saved should be enough to get you a 5850 graphics card, which will make your build a lot better.

Futureproofing is an illusion. A computer is never future-proof, but the build you listed (with the changes I suggested) is as close as you can get to it without breaking the bank too much. If it begins to lag behind, an i7-860 CPU can still be put in (or you can do it now, it's still cheaper than a 920 build) and a second 5850 (or a new GPU) can be added whenever you wish.
December 26, 2009 12:25:02 PM

Don't be sorry, I posted here so I would get the best for my money.

I'll check what you mentioned and post back :) 
December 26, 2009 12:29:36 PM

What mb do you reccomend for this?
December 26, 2009 12:45:47 PM

I personally prefer Gigabyte, but Asus is great as well. Look for a motherboard with USB 3.0, SATA 6GB/s and the ability to crossfire, but not 16x/4x, but rather something like 8x/8x. Motherboards in these price setting start at, I believe, £100. They're more futureproof than your x58 mobo and even slightly cheaper. Pick the cheapest board meeting the above specs and any other features you want it to have.
December 26, 2009 1:09:57 PM

It's no wonder you don't find the 5840... It's 5850 rather than 5840 :p 

Should the 5850 be impossible to find, crossfiring the 5770 is cheaper than the 5870 and is roughly equal when it comes to performance. It limits your upgrade paths (you'd have to replace both graphics card rather than add a second one like you can do with the 5850), but other than that it's just as good as the mighty 5870.

The PSU is good. With the far more power efficient intel i5 and P55 chipset, it will be even better.

EDIT: That shop doesn't stock the 5850??? What are they playing at, it's the best selling GPU of the moment... Either shop somewhere else or go with this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/186468 (crossfired of course)
December 26, 2009 1:21:03 PM

I can pick a 5850 up from another shop, they are around £250

I can't decide on the mobo yet though
December 26, 2009 1:32:31 PM

I would take a Gigabyte P55A-UDX. The 'A' is important, it means you don't get a Foxconn socket (they get burned when overclocked) and you get the new and nifty tech like USB 3.0 and SATA 6GB/s. The 'X' can be 3, 4, 5 or 6. Each is more expensive and has some nice features. If you're not into extreme overclocking or crossfire, the P55A-UD3 can't be beaten. If you are doing these, take a look at the UD4, UD5 or UD6 models.

EDIT: again, ebuyer doesn't stock any of these. I couldn't find a modern board with good features and a reasonable price tag on that site. You might want to look at the store you're going to buy the 5850 from for your mobo as well.
December 26, 2009 1:47:37 PM

Just been looking at that motherboard, what about the usb 3 ?

Quote:

Thanks for that interesting link.


Wow! I did not know that Gigabyte did not tell us about the impact on PCe x16 slot by SATA 3 and USB 3.0. That sucks... This means that you can run a video card on 1 PCIe x16 at only x8 mode when you are using SATA 3 and USB 3.0. :ouch: 


They are using SATA 3 and USB 3.0 as marketing hype to sell their motherboards without telling us its negative side.


What about ASUS P7P55D Premium? ASUS did mentioned about the add-on card like the PLX PEX card which would enable USB 3.0 and SATA 3 and avoiding the bottleneck by PCIe x1 1st generation's speed (250mb/s). Would that prevent the PCIe X16 slot's bandwidth from being bottleneck to x8 mode??? :o 


Would an add-on PLX PEX card also work on an ordinary P55 motherboard that does not support SATA 3 and USB 3.0????
December 26, 2009 2:17:58 PM

True. However, real world testing showed there is no performance difference between x8 and x16. Only the 5870 uses enough bandwith for it to matter, and even there even the most pessimist reports speak of 5% at most.

Yes, there are add-on cards on the market that do exactly the same.

However, even with these caveats, the P55A series remains an intresting choice. They're the only affordable mobo's that don't use troubled Foxconn sockets, they're of excellent overall quality (ultra durable design), have some intresting features like Smart6 (overclocking and recovery for dummies and impatient people) and power saving features,...

Yes, a good Asus board will do the same. But you asked me to recommend something and personally I always stick with Gigabyte. As such, I can only give you thorough advice about these, but I'm sure Asus has similar boards at a similar price tag. You'll have to pay quite a sum for the add-on cart though, manufacturers are taking advantage of the 'ooh, something new's out and I can haz it too!!!! omgleet' feeling that's there when you can have new tech on older components.

Oh and PS: an add-on card also sets you back on x8.
December 26, 2009 2:38:22 PM

Well, you're better off with lower MHz (1600 for example). Manufacturers offer ever higher speed, but the truth is that there is no real benefit. 1333 is fast. 1600 is faster. Above that, differences cease to exist (even in benchmarks they're hard to spot).

And even the difference between 1600 and 1333 is so tiny (even in highly RAM intense apps 5% at max) that I'd buy 1333 with good timings.
This set for example ( http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY... ) has tight timings and is of good quality. It will easily rival the sets you posted at a lower price tag. If you want slightly faster 1600MHz RAM, this one seems to offer unbeatable value: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY...
December 26, 2009 4:44:53 PM

Thanks Slim you have been a huge help, I've gone with the lower mhz gskill you reccomended.

Happy new year :) 
December 26, 2009 5:28:58 PM

Sturdy said:
Thanks Slim you have been a huge help, I've gone with the lower mhz gskill you reccomended.

Happy new year :) 


Same to you! :) 

And let's hope your PC helps to make it a happy 2010 (and 2011, and...)

PS: if you want to make it a bit happier for me, you could select one of my posts as best answer. I absolutely want to get the veteran badge :p 
December 26, 2009 6:17:23 PM

I can't find the best answer option but I gave you thumbs up on the posts :) 
December 26, 2009 6:42:17 PM

Thank you! It would have given me 50 points towards veteran, but never mind! Enjoy new year!
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