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December 24, 2009 3:36:47 PM

hi!

after some recent issues with my PC im thinking about just doing a new build with the possibility of keeping some old items.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 2/3 weeks time

BUDGET RANGE:£500-£600

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming and some adobe software

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: this is the tricky bit. here is my current build so please advise on what might be worth keeping or not. Monitor, keyboard and mouse are the only thing i will definatly will keep.

ram = corsair 4GBKIT (2X2GB) 800MHZ NON ECC
graphics cards = XFX Geforce 8800GT 512MB alpha dog edition
PSU = dabs value 650W TITAN SILENT NEON PSU 12C
MOBO = Gigabyte motherboard EP35-DS3L, LGA775 P35 1333FSB DDR2 ATX
cpu = E5200 Pentium DC S775 2MB 2.5Ghz (this is running at crazy temps so think its pretty dead/dying)
screen = 22" LG 1080p HD monitor
hard drive = 80gb 5,400 IDE

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: novatech, scan, hotukdeals, microdirect, dabs are my favorites. pref not ebuyer though as had bad experience with them before but will still consider.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: uk

PARTS PREFERENCES: never had an AMD but prepared to give it a go. im VERY keen on a radeon 5850 gpu to try and future proof the PC a bit but not sure how relevant this direct x 11 stuff is?!?!?! :S

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS

as i said if i can keep some of the current parts then i will do. if not i will look at a brand new system so happy to look at various options.

ive been looking at dx11 cards but not sure how relevant they are or will be over the next couple of years.

thanks for help!!

December 24, 2009 3:51:17 PM

What's the approx. dollar equivalant? I think much better with that. I know the straight conversion is about $900, but don't know about an adjustment for prices...

I'm going to give you Newegg links 'cause I can find stuff there better. (links coming)

I'd recommend using nothing out of that build (except an optical).

CPU: Phenom II X4 955

Mobo: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO $120

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB DDR3 1333 mhz CAS Latency 7 $100

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB $55 (can up this to 1 TB if you've got enough budget left, usually about $30)

GPU: Radeon HD 5850 $310

PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 700W $80

Case: Antec 300 Illusion $55

Total in USD: $880
December 24, 2009 4:37:02 PM

Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804

Corsair 650W TX Series PSU

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514

Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 i5 Memory Kit CL8(8-8-8-24) 1.65V

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173129

Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/180051

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2 GHz Socket AM3 8MB

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164047

Asus M4A79XTD EVO 790X Socket AM3 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172846

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...


£600 delivered
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December 24, 2009 4:50:40 PM

Tried to play around with obsidian's build to squeeze in the 5850. Not happening (as far as I can tell). I tried a smaller HDD, a slightly smaller OCZ PSU, different RAM, so other stuff. Got down to a needing to cut ~70 pounds out to fit it.

Did find this change though:
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz CAS 7 88 pounds. This is better RAM for less.
December 24, 2009 4:56:23 PM

MadAdmiral said:
What's the approx. dollar equivalant? I think much better with that. I know the straight conversion is about $900, but don't know about an adjustment for prices...

I'm going to give you Newegg links 'cause I can find stuff there better. (links coming)

I'd recommend using nothing out of that build (except an optical).

CPU: Phenom II X4 955

Mobo: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO $120

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB DDR3 1333 mhz CAS Latency 7 $100

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB $55 (can up this to 1 TB if you've got enough budget left, usually about $30)

GPU: Radeon HD 5850 $310

PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 700W $80

Case: Antec 300 Illusion $55

Total in USD: $880


thanks admiral!! i appreciate that its tough with the difference in price over in the states. this is what i work those items out to be over here.

CPU: Phenom II X4 955 - £110 https://www.pricelover.com/product/AMD_PHENOM_II_X4_955...

Mobo: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO $120 (£80 from http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin...)

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB DDR3 1333 mhz CAS Latency 7 $100 (£85 for a similar set at http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/Mem...)

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB $55 (£37 for me from http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin...) (can up this to 1 TB if you've got enough budget left, usually about $30)

GPU: Radeon HD 5850 $310 (£202 for me at http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin...)

PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 700W $80 (£72 for me from http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ocz-s7...)

Case: Antec 300 Illusion $55 (£43 but i couldnt find the "illussion" model http://www.tekheads.co.uk/product/Antec-300-Three-Hundr...)

Total in USD: $880 (£630)


so it doesnt work out too much over my budget really. i may look for a different set of ram as couldnt find the 1333mhz one you suggested and i think 1600mhz is slightly overkill for me. what do you think?

otherwise i would be very happy with this build. would run very well too id imagine.
December 24, 2009 4:59:21 PM

thanks for that build too obsidon but i really am not a big fan of ebuyer. ill be at uni and i have to get the stuff sent to my home address first which is all too much hassle. just want it delivered to uni.

im hping to get £250 or so for my old pc so going slughtly over budget wouldnt be a huge issue
December 24, 2009 5:07:57 PM

There isn't much of a performance boost for going to 1600 mhz over 1333 mhz mainly because the CAS Latency is higher. As long as you can find some with CL 7, you should be fine. It's all about what you can find in you're budget.

The Illusion model is the same case, but with 2 fans in front with blue LEDs. Here in the US, both the 300 and the Illusion are the same price, but you get 2 extra fans with the Illusion.
December 24, 2009 11:01:24 PM

MadAdmiral said:
There isn't much of a performance boost for going to 1600 mhz over 1333 mhz mainly because the CAS Latency is higher. As long as you can find some with CL 7, you should be fine. It's all about what you can find in you're budget.

The Illusion model is the same case, but with 2 fans in front with blue LEDs. Here in the US, both the 300 and the Illusion are the same price, but you get 2 extra fans with the Illusion.



hi mate

what do you think about this build. obv i will add the radeon 5850 on top.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Barebones/Nova...
December 25, 2009 2:27:40 AM

Frankly, there's not enough specs for me to say one way or another. They don't give any details on the RAM, PSU or motherboard. You could be getting a great deal, but you could also be getting a lot of sub-standard parts. I'd stick to choosing parts individually so you can assure quality and know what you're getting.
December 25, 2009 7:42:57 AM

MadAdmiral said:
Frankly, there's not enough specs for me to say one way or another. They don't give any details on the RAM, PSU or motherboard. You could be getting a great deal, but you could also be getting a lot of sub-standard parts. I'd stick to choosing parts individually so you can assure quality and know what you're getting.


ok cheers mad ad

5850 seem to be out of stock everywhere for now so will have to wait a few weeks :( 

will i need a cooler with this set up or will the antec case have enough? will i also need to get thermal paste or will this come with the AMD processor?

December 25, 2009 10:46:12 AM

You don't need the thermal paste. It come pre-applied to the stock cooler.

As far as needing an aftermarket CPU cooler, you only need it if you're going to overclock.
December 25, 2009 12:50:56 PM

the only GPU I have been able to find is a 5850 black edition for £275!!!

at least that should run well enough without the need to overclock for now. I may over clock in the future.

thanks for help mate and merry christmas!!
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