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Decent Ati/AMD Gaming Computer inc. Monitor for £650?

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March 5, 2009 8:18:21 PM

Hi, I am a novice looking to build a new computer, however, my budget is slightly limited. At the moment, I have an iMac with 3GB 667Mhz RAM, a 2.16Ghz Core 2 Duo Mobile processor (T8400 I think?), a Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB VRAM and a 20" 1680x1050. I think I might sell it, as Mac resale values are pretty high. I am looking for a computer on which I can game decently, run virtual machines, and preferably have two hard drives. I know my budget is very tight at £650, but I'm sure you guys can recommend something.

Thanks
March 5, 2009 11:01:00 PM

Here is what I come up with:
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1000Mhz/PC2-8000 PLATINUM Memory Unbuffered CL5 DUAL CHANNEL-50
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141725

Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU- 44
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854

Corsair 650W TX Series PSU - 120mm Fan, 80+% Efficiency, Single +12V Rail - 81
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514

Samsung TS-H653B 20X Black SATA DVD±RW Dual Layer Bare Drive - OEM - 16
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149639

Samsung SM2243BW 22" TFT Monitor 1680x1050 300cd/m2 8000:1 5ms-141
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145472

AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 2MB (2x1MB) L3 Cache- 59
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155158

Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 790X Socket AM2+ 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard - 85
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140701

Western Digital 640GB Hard Drive SATA300 7200rpm 32MB Cache Caviar Black - OEM - 65
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150247

XFX HD 4850 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card - 122
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155495

That comes to 677 inc VAT/Shipping...So I broke your budget by a bit, but that was for a nice 22" monitor, if you can get by with a 19", then you can probably cut £45 or so off the price. Now I hope you don't need an OS included in that price, Because you will have a tough time building a computer than can game on £650 monitor and OS included...Another option you might look into is buying a monitor second hand, sometimes you can find some great deals that way and save a ton of money, in which case you might fit an OS in there as well.
March 6, 2009 5:53:13 AM

Thanks a lot, that's exactly the sort of thing I was looking at but was going way overbudget with a 4870 and a Phenom II X4 Black Edition, lol. I don't need an OS, as I have already purchased Vista to run on my Mac. I've read elsewhere that buying a cheaper Intel system and overclocking it will be cheaper and better than an AMD system. Is this correct?
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March 6, 2009 6:00:06 AM

Intel chips do overclock better than ATI usually. If you wanted to go that route, then get an E5200 and Asus P5Q Pro mobo, should cost roughly the same. You can keep everything else the same. If you want to overclock though you need a CPU cooler, Like the S1283 Dark Knight.
March 6, 2009 4:16:46 PM

Thanks for all the help. I am looking to sell my iMac on Ebay UK for £650, but before I go ahead I'd like to know if there are any better options, like a site that sells macs specifically. Thanks.
March 6, 2009 6:00:16 PM

a very good amd system IMO.... on par or above the fastest core 2 duo E8xxx line...especially when overclocked....and its easy to get it to around 3.6-3.8ghz


AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz Socket AM3 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159069 -102

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800Mhz/PC2-6400 GOLD XTC Memory Kit CL5(5-5-5-18)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049 -34.99

Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854 -44.71

Samsung TS-H653B 20X Black SATA DVD?RW Dual Layer Bare Drive - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149639 -15.99

Western Digital 640GB Hard Drive SATA300 7200rpm 32MB Cache Caviar Black - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150247 -65.16

Antec EarthWatts 500W 80%+ Efficiency PSU - 80mm Fan 4x SATA 2x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120377 -58.36

Samsung SM2023NW 20"TFT Monitor 1680x1050 1000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151436 95.60

ASUS HD 4850 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146705 -112.99

Arctic Cooling Freezer-64-LP Dual Cooling Low Profile Processor Cooler for AMD 939 and AM2 Processors
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131148 -15.28

Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H 790GX Socket AM2+ onboard VGA 8 channel audio ATX
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149240 -121.53

total 666.62 + shipping = 680.75 all inc. VAT


I personally would go for more cores since the industry is shifting quickly towards more cores...nonethess the x3 710 is still no slouch even in dual thread optimized softwares at default clocks..

Although the processor is retail and comes with a stock cooler but i have still added an after market cooler i.e arctic freezer to make it easier to overclock..

the system is 30 quid above your budget but its very worth it IMO..otherwise you can drop the gigabyte 790gx and get a much cheaper 780G chipset for almost similar performance and overclocking abilties..but id stick with the 790GX and get the whole dragon platform :)  (then there is always a chance you might be able to unlock the fourth core in ACC which is present only in 790 chips)

The monitor is a 20inch samsung which is pretty good for the price as well....as for the dual hard drives you had wished, I have put a fast but single large one like xthekidx recommended......my optical drive and case options are also same as xthekidx


March 7, 2009 11:15:26 AM

mbbs20 said:
a very good amd system IMO.... on par or above the fastest core 2 duo E8xxx line...especially when overclocked....and its easy to get it to around 3.6-3.8ghz


AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz Socket AM3 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159069 -102

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800Mhz/PC2-6400 GOLD XTC Memory Kit CL5(5-5-5-18)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049 -34.99

Antec 300 Three Hundred Case - No PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854 -44.71

Samsung TS-H653B 20X Black SATA DVD?RW Dual Layer Bare Drive - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149639 -15.99

Western Digital 640GB Hard Drive SATA300 7200rpm 32MB Cache Caviar Black - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150247 -65.16

Antec EarthWatts 500W 80%+ Efficiency PSU - 80mm Fan 4x SATA 2x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120377 -58.36

Samsung SM2023NW 20"TFT Monitor 1680x1050 1000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151436 95.60

ASUS HD 4850 512MB DDR3 Dual DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146705 -112.99

Arctic Cooling Freezer-64-LP Dual Cooling Low Profile Processor Cooler for AMD 939 and AM2 Processors
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131148 -15.28

Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H 790GX Socket AM2+ onboard VGA 8 channel audio ATX
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149240 -121.53

total 666.62 + shipping = 680.75 all inc. VAT


I personally would go for more cores since the industry is shifting quickly towards more cores...nonethess the x3 710 is still no slouch even in dual thread optimized softwares at default clocks..

Although the processor is retail and comes with a stock cooler but i have still added an after market cooler i.e arctic freezer to make it easier to overclock..

the system is 30 quid above your budget but its very worth it IMO..otherwise you can drop the gigabyte 790gx and get a much cheaper 780G chipset for almost similar performance and overclocking abilties..but id stick with the 790GX and get the whole dragon platform :)  (then there is always a chance you might be able to unlock the fourth core in ACC which is present only in 790 chips)

The monitor is a 20inch samsung which is pretty good for the price as well....as for the dual hard drives you had wished, I have put a fast but single large one like xthekidx recommended......my optical drive and case options are also same as xthekidx


Thanks a lot!
March 7, 2009 11:36:06 AM

oatastemur said:
Thanks a lot!


You are welcome!! :) 


just a little correction...By mistake, I had selected the arctic freezer 64 "low profile" instead of the "normal" version in my initial post, which is the same thing but smaller in height and used for smaller cases......although not a big deal, and either would do the job, still i was uncomfortable with the width of the low profile cooler, so plz change it to...

Arctic Cooling (AC-FRZ-64P) Freezer64 Pro Socket 754 939 940 CPU Cooler with Heat pipe cooling Pro Ver
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/101471/show_product_revie... -17.50

thanks...
March 7, 2009 5:42:47 PM

If you can afford a couple changes...
Change the CPU to the 720, its the BE and its faster and easier to overclock, more for your money.

And get the Xigmatek HDT-S1283. Its a better cooler and usually about the same price.
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