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June 27, 2012 6:34:31 PM

Hi before I ask my question I'd like to say I'm terribly inexperienced with computer hardware, so forgive me for my poor level of my questions.

So I was just about to order my computer until a few people told me that 4 gtx 680 are better than 2 gtx 690. I want to know what is better according to everything. I'm more inclined to go with the 2 gtx 690 since less cards less problems e.g less power and heat consumption. Plus it looks much more better. Anyway I would go with the one with the best performance and I want to know both pro's and cons of the cards.

Specs;

(Don't judge me I know it's overkill but I really wanted something this great even when I was young I'm 17 so it's not that long ago and still be great in years to come and money is not an issue.)


Power Supply: SILVERSTONE Strider ST1500 Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 1500W, 80 PLUS®, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, Four 6-pin + Four 8-pin PCIe


Processor: INTEL Core i7-3960X Extreme Six-Core, 3.3 - 3.9GHz TB, LGA2011, 15MB L3 Cache Overclocked 20% and up.


Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme, LGA2011, Intel® X79, DDR3-2400 (O.C.) 64GB /8, PCIe x16 SLI CF /4+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, USB 3.0 /8, HDA, BT, GbLAN, EATX


Liquid Cooling: CUSTOM Premium 1xCPU + 2xGPU Liquid Cooling Kit, Installed (Dual Loop) Coolant: Koolance Blue.


Ram: CORSAIR 16GB (4 x 4GB) Dominator-GT DHX Pro PC3-17000 DDR3 2133MHz CL9 (9-11-10-27) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC


Sound Cards: HT OMEGA eClaro Sound Card, 7.1 channels, 24-bit 192KHz, PCIe x1, Full-height/Low-profile


Hard Drives (1,2,3,4,5 and 6):CORSAIR 480GB Force Series™ GT SSD, MLC SandForce SF-2281, 555/525MB/s, 2.5-Inch w/ 3.5-Inch Bracket, SATA 6 Gb/s


Raid Configuration: RAID 10


SATA Raid Controllers: HIGHPOINT RocketRAID 640 SATA 6 Gb/s RAID Controller


Card Readers: AFT PRO-57U Black All-In-One Card Reader/Writer Drive w/ USB 3.0 Port, 5.25" Bay


Optical Drive 1: PLEXTOR PX-LB950SA 12x/16x/48x BD/DVD/CD Blu-ray Disc™ Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA


Optical Drive 2: PLEXTOR PX-LB950SA 12x/16x/48x BD/DVD/CD Blu-ray Disc™ Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA


Network Cards: BIGFOOT NETWORKS Killer™ 2100 Network Card, 400MHz NPU, 10/100/1000 Mbps, 128MB DDR2, PCIe x1,

also I want to know is this system fully compatible and what sound card should I get I want the one that will give the best audio.

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a c 103 U Graphics card
June 27, 2012 6:38:42 PM

drop the network card man waste of money you really dont need it....and if I were you I would stay away from 4 gtx 680s and go for the 2 gtx 690s....in theory the 4 680s would be faster but that performance is negated by the overhead of having 4 cards in sli...not to mention the amount of issues that you will have with the 4 cards...so in the end 2 690s will probably net you more performance and alot less heart ache...the sound card you have picked out will work in your system but again its not really necessary onboard audio has come along way. unless you are an audiophile with crazy expensive speakers you prolly wont notice a difference between the two
June 27, 2012 8:40:38 PM

drums101 said:
drop the network card man waste of money you really dont need it....and if I were you I would stay away from 4 gtx 680s and go for the 2 gtx 690s....in theory the 4 680s would be faster but that performance is negated by the overhead of having 4 cards in sli...not to mention the amount of issues that you will have with the 4 cards...so in the end 2 690s will probably net you more performance and alot less heart ache...the sound card you have picked out will work in your system but again its not really necessary onboard audio has come along way. unless you are an audiophile with crazy expensive speakers you prolly wont notice a difference between the two



Actually I do have crazy expensive speakers :S so is there a better sound card that gives better sound than the e claro and is compatible. BTW MONEY IS NOT AN ISSUE TAKE IT OUT OF THE ANSWERS.

Anyway I decided to go with the 2 690's I wanted to go with them from the start so thats a good thing.
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June 27, 2012 9:03:09 PM

Wow this is an overkill setup for real. If I was you I would go for the SLI 690's. As the others have mentions 4 way SLI will produce heat and noise. You might as well go all out and put 64GB of ram in this thing as well. What kinda case are you putting all of this in? I want to see this Frankenstien when your done.
a c 103 U Graphics card
June 27, 2012 9:10:37 PM

JJuuBB said:
Actually I do have crazy expensive speakers :S so is there a better sound card that gives better sound than the e claro and is compatible. BTW MONEY IS NOT AN ISSUE TAKE IT OUT OF THE ANSWERS.

Anyway I decided to go with the 2 690's I wanted to go with them from the start so thats a good thing.


I dont really know too much about soundcards but I have a creative labs x-fi titantim fatality pro sound card and I like it alot....they have a new version of the card out but it only supports 5.1 surround sound so in my book its a downgrade. Even with the nice speakers I wouldn't get a sound card if I could do it all again when I built my rig I wouldn't have bothered and saved the 150 for something else and I have crazy nice speakers too.
a b U Graphics card
June 27, 2012 9:34:29 PM

I would stick with the 2X 690's. Less room and heat issues unless you are going to do water cooling.

The only thing about doing quad video cards is they have proven you only get about 7% FPS gain from the 4th card. The 3rd card gives you much more of a gain and hence is more cost effective.

I say if you have the money and want to do it have at it!
June 27, 2012 9:39:52 PM

A waste of money means a waste of many other things. The 3rd GPU barely adds anything to performance. The 4th adds very close to nothing. If I were you and had SO much money to throw in the garbage can (which is what you're doing), I'd give to charity. We're not talking about "something great" here. We're talking about thousands of dollars in a 1% performance increase and on things you won't even notice.
a b U Graphics card
June 27, 2012 9:45:18 PM

If you have no monetary constraints then go for the 2 690s and ignore the crap about getting rid of a sound or network card. If it fits and doesn't block airflow to the graphics card it can't hurt.
June 27, 2012 10:30:50 PM

firedice said:
A waste of money means a waste of many other things. The 3rd GPU barely adds anything to performance. The 4th adds very close to nothing. If I were you and had SO much money to throw in the garbage can (which is what you're doing), I'd give to charity. We're not talking about "something great" here. We're talking about thousands of dollars in a 1% performance increase and on things you won't even notice.


i absolutely agree, throwing more money isnt going to make this system last any longer then a 1,500 to 2,000 dollar system. understand your saying money isn't a issue, but your going to buy something thats going to break much easier, and if your inexperience in hardware your just asking to have 5000 bucks go down a drain when something goes wrong. I hope you know how to maintain and clean a water loop.
a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 1:13:00 AM

If you have no experience with high end hardware then you need to ditch the water cooling system. They have to be maintained. Hope you're comfortable with changing the coolant in your $5000 system. Hardware doesn't like to get wet. Get two 690s and lose the network card and sound card, if you get a high end motherboard you don't need it. Plus this will add extra space between and around the cards to cool these behemoths.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 1:21:15 AM

Ok, I get that money isn't an issue for you, but there's a reason people call a set up overkill, YOU WON"T NOTICE A DIFFERENCE! now I get spending top dollar for something nice, but this is like buying a Ferrari dressed up in a honda civic's shell... reasoning? one 690 is more than enough to top out just about anything you have, and if you want to use a six monitor set up or use this machine to max out games in 5 years or so, well, the 2GB of memory per card on the 690 won't be enough...

If I were you, I'd get 2 or 3 680s, and spend the extra on a nice watercooling set up. you'll get better performance, and learn how to build a waterloop and overclock like a pro, both are useful skills to have
a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 1:41:11 AM

If you have the money and are using a 3 monitor setup, surely it would be better to go for 2 or 3 - 4GB 680's. I agree that if you don't know how to do water cooling, then don't do it as it's complicated. I must agree with using a sound card, it makes a huge difference! Having used my X-Fi Fatality Gamer Pro for a few years, trying the onboard on the new Z68, I just had to go back to the card.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 2:05:07 AM

pezonator said:
If you have the money and are using a 3 monitor setup, surely it would be better to go for 2 or 3 - 4GB 680's. I agree that if you don't know how to do water cooling, then don't do it as it's complicated. I must agree with using a sound card, it makes a huge difference! Having used my X-Fi Fatality Gamer Pro for a few years, trying the onboard on the new Z68, I just had to go back to the card.


no one knows how to run water loops when they're born. he has a good opportunity to learn here. and I see a 680 card burned because of a badly managed water loop as a much better "waste" than running it as a 4th card in a quadfire set up running a single or even 2 monitors
June 28, 2012 3:11:42 AM

vmem said:
no one knows how to run water loops when they're born. he has a good opportunity to learn here. and I see a 680 card burned because of a badly managed water loop as a much better "waste" than running it as a 4th card in a quadfire set up running a single or even 2 monitors


why would you learn to do something on the most expensive configuration possible? i taught myself to overclock on a much cheaper configuration then i have now.
June 28, 2012 3:12:48 AM

BigMack70 said:
If $$ is no issue, then water cooling is OK because it isn't a huge deal if/when he screws something up and has to replace parts.


Agreed, if you have the money why not. However, you (OP) will need to learn about all the components on a computer, how to build one and how to make and maintain a custom waterloop. There is a lot of help on toms relating to this. I would love to do this but lack the funds and the time.

Personally go with the 2 x 690's, drop the network card and keep the sound card. Enjoy your beast.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 3:16:33 AM

zakattak80 said:
why would you learn to do something on the most expensive configuration possible? i taught myself to overclock on a much cheaper configuration then i have now.


never said he had to do it on his main rig. and I'm sure he can buy a few parts at $2-300 to test on if he needs to.

anyway, my main point is that he's young, lucky enough to have the enormous budget, and should take the opportunity to educate himself with it
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 3:24:26 AM

@OP as for watercooling, if you're serious about going water cooling, that kit you're buying isn't enough, for starters it's only got 2 GPU blocks, and two 690 cards have 4 GPUs and consequently will need 4 GPU blocks

also, forgive me but I'm not used to totaling power usage that high, but can someone verify that a 1500W is enough to run his whole system underwater? especially given that he wants to overclock
June 28, 2012 5:02:13 AM

Are you putting this computer together yourself or getting someone else to do it?

Sorry if this was mentioned before, kinda skim reading...
a c 217 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 5:15:14 AM

Since I can't find where you may have mentioned your monitor setup, could you post what monitor setup you have? You may find that if you are using a single monitor, that 2 690's will slow you down, because of the extra overhead. On the other hand, if you are running 3D surround or something like that, it may give good performance increases.
June 28, 2012 5:35:58 AM

I build systems like the one you list for myself everytime nvidia releases a new flagship gpu. You have to go water-cooling for 4x sli. Its not the kind of build you do your first go-around though. You want to setup redundancies in your water-cooling. If you're not trolling and your budget is that big, have it custom built with a warrenty by someone who builds custom computers. I quit doing repairs after everyone came to me with crap they blew up that took me years to figure out what stupid thing they did, like mounting a motherboard without standoffs. There should be someone like me close to where you live, just search your phonebook and google.
June 28, 2012 6:20:35 AM

Go read the toms hardware article on quad sli, and how the input lag generated from quad sli is very noticeable and how for them, it makes games "unplayable".

For gaming, you only need 8gb of ram. It could be debated that 4gb is enough. It could also be debated that 3gb is enough. Most games are 32bit, which has a hard limit of 2gb unless patched.

Graphics cards - anything over SLI bring about very noticeable input lag. You should also go read all the articles on "Tech Report" about microstuttering in dual graphics card configurations. Their graphs on frame time really generates a much clearer picture on the gains you're getting with SLI vs just looking at raw frames per second.

You really need to do some research. And I really hope you're not planning on running this ridiculous system on a 60hz monitor, are you?
June 28, 2012 4:37:46 PM

firedice said:
A waste of money means a waste of many other things. The 3rd GPU barely adds anything to performance. The 4th adds very close to nothing. If I were you and had SO much money to throw in the garbage can (which is what you're doing), I'd give to charity. We're not talking about "something great" here. We're talking about thousands of dollars in a 1% performance increase and on things you won't even notice.



As I said before I'm going with the 690's and btw money is no no no way an issue at all so it's okay for me to spend this much if I have more than I need I might aswell have the best.

PS I have given to charity I mean loads, it's funny how people judge others just because they have more money than they know what to do with. The even more funny thing was I just gave to charity 3 days. I give to charity every month so I'd like to see what you've done.
June 28, 2012 4:44:51 PM

All of you I'm not building this myself!!! why would I do that if I'm inexperianced also for watercooling my bestfriend is a computer engineer so he'll do the watercooling and teach me. Plus I have a 5 year parts which basically means if better hardware comes out in a period of 5 years they'll replace my current parts so I'm good for about 5 years. :) 
June 28, 2012 4:46:30 PM

nupe123 said:
Wow this is an overkill setup for real. If I was you I would go for the SLI 690's. As the others have mentions 4 way SLI will produce heat and noise. You might as well go all out and put 64GB of ram in this thing as well. What kinda case are you putting all of this in? I want to see this Frankenstien when your done.



64gb will negatively effect my overclock and won't make a difference in gaming the dominator is the fastest right now for gaming.
June 28, 2012 4:50:27 PM

So fatal1ty champion or the eclaro
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 4:50:47 PM

BigMack70 said:
I did that with my first build back in high school... :lol: 

Anyways @OP, you don't seem to realize that a lot of the advice you're getting (correctly) is that quad-SLI is not going to provide any performance improvement over a single 690 and more importantly you actually risk having a much worse experience overall. Quad-SLI is not meant for gaming. It's meant for benchmarking.

Ignore that advice at your own peril.


well, not peril, just money down the drain, which he has an excess of anyway. as for Quad-sli, we've tried running some of those for folding at work, I'm a protein structure scientist XD but at the end of the day, yeah, you get diminishing returns fast.

@OP honestly, if it's just for gaming, cut your build down to $2500. you'll lose like 1-2% performance compared to the current monster you're building. throw the extra money you have at buying an apartment or buying some gold, it'll do you much better in the long run
June 28, 2012 4:56:44 PM

nupe123 said:
Wow this is an overkill setup for real. If I was you I would go for the SLI 690's. As the others have mentions 4 way SLI will produce heat and noise. You might as well go all out and put 64GB of ram in this thing as well. What kinda case are you putting all of this in? I want to see this Frankenstien when your done.


I'm using a NZXT Phantom Red Full Tower Case mainly because it looks great has great cooling because it has 7 fans plus enough room to encompass 7 hardrives I only have 6.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 5:03:03 PM

JJuuBB said:
I'm using a NZXT Phantom Red Full Tower Case mainly because it looks great has great cooling because it has 7 fans plus enough room to encompass 7 hardrives I only have 6.


that and it's a horrible case for water cooling. reason, not enough space for sufficent radiator instillation, especially not for quad-SLI. trust me, I own the black version of that tower and didn't go water cooling because of that limitation. oh, and if you want to watercool in that tower, forget about the 7 harddrive bays, you'll probably have 4 left because the other one needs to be removed to make room for rads

as your friend who's building it for you. if he's any good, he'll tell you that for quad-sli, he'll have to install some monster rad externally, in which case you kinda forgo the looks of the phantom case
a c 124 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 5:07:56 PM

6 SSDs in RAID 10 will definitely saturate the BUS, and that means it can also somewhat overload the CPU's controller and negatively impact PCIe communication. For example on my significantly lower end system with an Asus P7P55D Pro motherboard, I have a 3rd PCIe slot at 4x speed, controlled by the south bridge (where all the SATA goes). I put a low end GT 240 in there as a PhysX card, but running benchmarks I noticed my scores actually dropped. Took me a while to realize it was actually due to this card, and removing it brought my 3DMark Vantage/11/Unigene scores back up. It wasn't a huge detriment, though, and maybe PCIe 3.0 plus SATA 3 can compensate well enough.

I'd like to know what case you're using as well as monitors. If you haven't picked monitors yet, I'd suggest something like 3 Dell U3011s in surround vision. That would be sick.

I also definitely suggest reading a bit about water cooling, even if you aren't personally setting it up. For 2 690s and a 3960X, you'll need at least around 10x 120mm rad space, which is massive. You can probably squeeze enough rad space into a Cosmos II, Corsair 800D, or Temjin TJ11B, but it might be best to just go really, really big and get a Mountain Mods cube.
June 28, 2012 6:58:09 PM

vmem said:
that and it's a horrible case for water cooling. reason, not enough space for sufficent radiator instillation, especially not for quad-SLI. trust me, I own the black version of that tower and didn't go water cooling because of that limitation. oh, and if you want to watercool in that tower, forget about the 7 harddrive bays, you'll probably have 4 left because the other one needs to be removed to make room for rads

as your friend who's building it for you. if he's any good, he'll tell you that for quad-sli, he'll have to install some monster rad externally, in which case you kinda forgo the looks of the phantom case



The techniciab told me that the phantom full tower case would be ok for my system and that you can fit in a dual loop but it will void your warranty. Are you a 100% sure because I really want that case. Over the phone he told me that he can fit my 7 ssd's in with the dual loop.
a c 124 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 7:11:53 PM

JJuuBB said:
The techniciab told me that the phantom full tower case would be ok for my system and that you can fit in a dual loop but it will void your warranty. Are you a 100% sure because I really want that case. Over the phone he told me that he can fit my 7 ssd's in with the dual loop.


I'd suggest finding out what radiators he's planning to use first. There's really no point in going water cooling if it's going to have insufficient radiators...
June 28, 2012 7:41:41 PM

swiftech extreme duty 120mm something like that... OR A danger den black ice I can't remember what he said about them exactly but he said if I want a different radiator I can, so anyway I'll check my email to see everything.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:05:47 PM

JJuuBB said:
swiftech extreme duty 120mm something like that... OR A danger den black ice I can't remember what he said about them exactly but he said if I want a different radiator I can, so anyway I'll check my email to see everything.


wolfram made an excellent point before that you'll need something like TEN 120x120mm radiators for your system to have sufficient cooling. otherwise, the air cooling you can buy nowadays would do a better job. why ten? as a rule of thumb, you'd want at least two 120x120mm radiators per chip, and you have a very high end CPU, and FOUR 680 GPUs (regardless of whether you get four 680s or two 690s, you'll have four 680 GPU chips).

now let's look at the phantom, to start, it has 7 fan slots as you said, that's already insufficient. the two 200x200mm slots up at the top of the case can be modded into a triple 120mm radiator slot, the single 120mm back exhaust can fit a single radiator. you can mod the front panel, and squeeze in a double 120mm radiator in the front by combining that 140mm fan slot with one of two of the 5 inch bays. and that adds up to six 120mm radiators.

from here on, you'll need some really heavy modding, because the double 120mm slot on the side panel is unfit for mounting radiators because the increased thickness would cause it to bumb into those harddrive slots that you want. the same goes for the bottom of the case. people have cut it open and mounted radiators there, but the only meaningful way to do it is to remove the harddrive bays, and get a double 5" bay reservoir. if you do that, and remember we're already cutting into the 5 inch bays, you won't have space for those two blu-ray optical drives. at the end of the day, the only possible and meaningful way to do this with a phantom is to have a single optical drive, and have a single or a pair of large SSDs screwed onto the back of the motherboard tray.

now, if a 17 year old like you came to me and handed me a big sum of cash and asked me to build such and such system with a list of parts. I'd tell you I'll do it. after-all, if you don't run benchmarks, I can guarantee you that one of those 690 cards can be an empty shell, and you probably won't notice a difference in gaming... I'd say the guy at the techniciab is shitting you
a c 217 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:11:08 PM

Until he lists his monitor setup, we don't know if the two 690's will be pointless, but given he hasn't mentioned he is running 3D surround or something of the sort, I'm betting he's on 1080p and it'll be more of an anchor than help.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:25:01 PM

bystander said:
Until he lists his monitor setup, we don't know if the two 690's will be pointless, but given he hasn't mentioned he is running 3D surround or something of the sort, I'm betting he's on 1080p and it'll be more of an anchor than help.


the thing is, even if he is running 3D surround or three 1600p monitors in 2D surround, the 256-bit and 2GB of memory per 680 chip won't cut it. thus, regardless of his monitor set up, the whole builds sounds a bit silly to me unless he's trying to win the 3DMark highest score of the month competition

EDIT/Add-on: BigMack, every time I see your signature, I'm ever so jealous that your system is a tad better than mine in just about every way lol
a c 124 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:25:25 PM

vmem said:
The two 200x200mm slots up at the top of the case can be modded into a triple 120mm radiator slot,


I'm not very familiar with the case in question, but I do know for sure that a double 200x200 rad would be significantly better than a triple 120 if it can fit.

But yeah, agreed with everything.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:33:24 PM

wolfram23 said:
I'm not very familiar with the case in question, but I do know for sure that a double 200x200 rad would be significantly better than a triple 120 if it can fit.

But yeah, agreed with everything.


Edited: NZXT 200mm fans are not true 200mm fans, but rather 192mm by 192mm. the case measures exactly 222mm wide, so while you can't use the existing holes, it's true that you can drill and cut the holes a bit wider to fit a double 200x200 rad. the issue is that the top plastic cover is not elevated and flat, but has a slant to it. a double 200mm rad would hit the plastic top toward the front of the case. thought I suppose with some good modding skills, one can get them to fit internally, but I haven't figured out how
a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:46:27 PM

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the thing is, even if he is running 3D surround or three 1600p monitors in 2D surround, the 256-bit and 2GB of memory per 680 chip won't cut it. thus, regardless of his monitor set up, the whole builds sounds a bit silly to me unless he's trying to win the 3DMark highest score of the month competition


Why are you people so worried about how someone wants to spend his money. He asked if 4 GTX 680s or 2 GTX 690's would be better. It is not your money, get over it and let him have what he wants or stop commenting. He clearly stated he knows it is overkill so get over it already.
a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 8:59:59 PM

BigMack70 said:
^^ The problem isn't that it's overkill.

The problem is that it's an utterly backwards setup for anything but benchmarking.

Why are you mad people are trying to give advice when they are asked for it?


I am not mad, I just don't want to see the constant bickering about what he wants to do instead of solving the question he is posing.
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 9:07:18 PM

^^He came here asking for honest advice. read through the posts and you'll see that he has the funds, he has a friend who'll be building for him, and he has warranties etc etc. but he still wants to get some out-side opinions on what's the best system to build.

and as usual, everyone's bickering about our own opinions about how to build the system. which, to be honest, is fine. in my interpretation, what the OP cares about ultimately is how to build the ULTIMATE, KING OF THE UNIVERSE rig that will be the talk of all his peers for years to come.

besides, how can you not expect arguing when you essentially come to a bunch of computer engineers (professional or otherwise), and essentially ask them that if they had unlimited funds, what's the ultimate rig they can build
a c 217 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 9:07:35 PM

ahnilated said:
Quote:
the thing is, even if he is running 3D surround or three 1600p monitors in 2D surround, the 256-bit and 2GB of memory per 680 chip won't cut it. thus, regardless of his monitor set up, the whole builds sounds a bit silly to me unless he's trying to win the 3DMark highest score of the month competition


Why are you people so worried about how someone wants to spend his money. He asked if 4 GTX 680s or 2 GTX 690's would be better. It is not your money, get over it and let him have what he wants or stop commenting. He clearly stated he knows it is overkill so get over it already.


The issue is, due to added overhead to support 4xSLI, and the added bugs, you'll find that it will hurt more than help, unless running an absolute beast monitor setup, which is why I've been asking about his monitors. If he has money to burn, it might be more worthwhile to spend some on 3D Surround, or 2D surround. He has the money, why not?
a c 198 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 9:38:02 PM

You could just get 1 690 and donate the other $1k to charity.....since there are no games out there that even need 1 690...
a c 124 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 9:51:23 PM

^Not very constructive criticism... the guy said he donates monthly. He's probably got millionaire parents or something.

And, yeah, you can max out a 690. Just need enough pixels, and maybe 3D lol
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 10:16:22 PM

wolfram23 said:
^Not very constructive criticism... the guy said he donates monthly. He's probably got millionaire parents or something.

And, yeah, you can max out a 690. Just need enough pixels, and maybe 3D lol


He could just be running his own dot com start-up or something. there was a kid in my high-school running a million dollar business on his own...

a single 690 definately, but in SLI, I find that between overall system overhead and the 2GB per chip memory, you're going to hit one bottleneck or another before you max both out. if there're 8gb 690s (4gb of memory per chip) available, that would solve one of the issues.

@OP, actually, this is the type of issue you can contact Nvidia or EVGA support about. you're the type of person they're typically happy to help, and well, they'll be much more knowledgeable about the inner workings of the 690
a c 198 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 10:31:31 PM

wolfram23 said:
^Not very constructive criticism... the guy said he donates monthly. He's probably got millionaire parents or something.

And, yeah, you can max out a 690. Just need enough pixels, and maybe 3D lol


Lol I was just joking. The 690's are going to use less power overall and will breathe better than the 680's.
June 29, 2012 12:09:44 AM

JJuuBB said:
All of you I'm not building this myself!!! why would I do that if I'm inexperianced also for watercooling my bestfriend is a computer engineer so he'll do the watercooling and teach me. Plus I have a 5 year parts which basically means if better hardware comes out in a period of 5 years they'll replace my current parts so I'm good for about 5 years. :) 


Thanks for clarifying that, that is what I meant by yourself, a friend doing it rather than a shop. All the best with it, high spec systems with custom water cooling are a little out of my field of knowledge. You will learn a lot if your friend builds this with you.

With those commenting, can we keep suggestion to what will work rather than what is a waste of money. It seems we have moved on from that now, as vmem said we could all build monster machines. :lol:  I want a 4p server for folding.

On a side note, excuse the advertising, if you feel like burning electricity. Look into F@H, folding at home, we have a toms team 40051. It just uses your computer for simulations for research.


a c 91 U Graphics card
June 29, 2012 12:28:14 AM

good point anti-painkilla, thanks for bringing us back.

hmmm, what will work, especially since the OP wants to stay in the phantom full tower and ideally get a full dual waterloop.

well as we can see here http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-3way-sli-...
we do get some meaningful gains with 680 triple SLI. I find the overhead for quadSLI, the 2gb memory limit, and the heat etc makes quadSLI meaning less. anyway, I think the best bet for performance at high resolutions lies with three 4GB 680s. if you really want to/need to go higher, I would go with AMD's 7970 as they seem to have better scaling and don't have the memory limitations.

now if you want to build the whole thing with an NZXT phantom and put it under water, I would mount a triple 120mm radiator on top, double 120mm up front, and piggyback a 200x200mm or something externally. alternatively, you can have your dual loop linked up to something like this:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15872/ex-wat-209/Aqua...

it's not that bad to have a column of fans standing in your room, especially with LEDs etc, it can look really cool. personally I prefer it to a mutated looking phantom with radiators sticking out
June 29, 2012 8:58:51 PM

Ok so my monitors are either going to be 1 2560:1440 or 2 1920:1080

and I'm going to run all games at max I mean completely extreme
a c 91 U Graphics card
June 29, 2012 9:32:06 PM

JJuuBB said:
Ok so my monitors are either going to be 1 2560:1440 or 2 1920:1080

and I'm going to run all games at max I mean completely extreme


if that's it, then honestly you will not see any difference between having a single 690 or having two in SLI. I get that you want an overkill computer, but you want the difference to show in gameplay right? just get a single 690 and OC it on a waterloop. you said you even have a warranty for free upgrades, so upgrade to a better chip in the future if a single 690 stops being overkill.
a c 124 U Graphics card
June 29, 2012 9:43:23 PM

I agree. Also, two 1080p monitors can't really be gamed on since you wind up with bezels down the middle of the screen. Unless you use projectors, then it'll be ok.

But for 2560x1440? Single 680 or 7970 will max out games, a 690 will definitely crush games 60 fps max settings full AA, everything. Two of them? Yeah... over kill.

You might consider going with SLI 680s (slightly faster than a 690) and then going Tri-SLI in the future. 4GPUs is really just asking for trouble, ever since people were going Quad CF with 5970s, then with 6990s and 590s there's been issues with some games and 4 GPUs. Not just with scaling, but simply not working. Have to disable a card and run 2x SLI for it to run. So, 2 cards are great, 3 GPUs are better, 4 GPUs are sometimes worse.
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