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NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 640 1GB spGDDR5 or AMD Radeon™ HD 7770 2GB GDDR5?

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July 7, 2012 1:11:10 AM

I do not know much about computers but I do plan on gaming and downloading movies and such but mostly Im not sure if it is better to spend the extra 150$ which i am willing to do because im going halfers with a buddy

The current specs are

PROCESSOR 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3770 processor (3.40 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.90 GHz)

OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English

MEMORY 16GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 4 DIMMs

HARD DRIVE 1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s

GRAPHICS CARD NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 640 1GB GDDR5

and also should i spring for 2TB or is it not worth it?
July 7, 2012 1:12:25 AM

It is currently 1,557.95$ but im willing to go anywhere under 2000$
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July 7, 2012 1:21:19 AM

Two things:

1. That is a terrabad build from the start.
2. Never go halvsies with a buddy. *BAD IDEA!!!* If you move who get's the computer!? Etc, etc, etc.

In fact 3 things.

3. If you are going to spend 2 grand on a PC get a MUCH MUCH better GPU. For a 2k build a 640 is GARBAGE! For a build that pricey get a 680 or a 7970.

Let me know if you want me to make you a build because it seems like you guys are throwing your money away on outdated or crappy low end parts.
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July 7, 2012 1:25:29 AM

Like I said i dont really know much about computers and im going to pay his half off in about a month and if you could help me that would be great
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July 7, 2012 1:32:14 AM

Holmes295 said:
Like I said i dont really know much about computers and im going to pay his half off in about a month and if you could help me that would be great


Yeah sure - NewEgg, FrozenCPU, NCIX, which website would you prefer? I prefer frozencpu for their awesome selection but newegg is easy to navigate lol.
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July 7, 2012 1:37:50 AM

Honestly it does not really matter to me, i havent heard of any of those sites but i checked them out and they seem better than dell lol, so but i f you could even just set me on the right path that would be great
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July 7, 2012 1:39:03 AM

So what kind of motherboard do you have in your system?
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July 7, 2012 1:46:24 AM

Approximate Purchase Date:The closer the better

Budget Range:1000-2000 Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming, Downloading movies, surfing the internet

Parts Required: Need monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None

Country: Canada/ B.C

Parts Preferences: Idk

Overclocking: Idk what that is

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050, or 1920x1080

Additional Comments: O would like a nice keyboard and monitor
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July 7, 2012 1:48:13 AM

Motherboard: MSI Z77-GD65A

SSD: 120 Mushkin Chronos or Chronos Delux

HHD: Samsung F3 1TB 7200 RPM 32 MB cache (you don't need a lot of speed for a storage device)

Optical Drive: Cheapest one you can find. ASUS or LG

CPU: I would recommend the i5-2500k and 2550k because it is the best for gaming hands down. Now I take it you won't be overclocking so heat isn't an issue then the i5-3500k or 3550k (Ivy bridge overheats easier than sandy bridge)

Case: NZXT Switch 810 (One of the best damn cases for the price)

Heatsink: Hyper 212 or an H100, all you need. The H80 is good but with proper fans and air flow the H100 can be far better if benchmarked correctly.

PSU: Anything 750W will be plenty ( I use the Capstone by Rosewill but SeaSonic is top of the line IMO)

GPU: GTX 680 (Nvidia) or 7970 (Radeon) I use the XFX 7970 DD black edition myself.

Ram: 8GB Mushkin 1600 DDR3 Blackline is perfect.

I feel like I'm forgetting something..

Edit:

Keyboard: Mionix Zibal 60 (Black Cherry MX Switches) - So sexy.. and it's rage poof! Mechanical Keyboard or go home.

Monitor: Yamakasi CatLeap Q270 S-IPS (Order it off Ebay for about 360 bucks) Can't beat that price for an S-IPS with 5ms refresh rate. 2560 resolution is uber nice on BF3.

Mouse: Steelseries Sensei (I use it and love the crap out of it)
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July 7, 2012 1:50:29 AM

what site did you build it on and how much did the price come out to?
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July 7, 2012 1:52:38 AM

I didn't build it on a site, just pulled it out of memory from good items. It'll probably run close to 1800 bucks; I could newegg it but you being in B.C./Canada, you would want to use NCIX.

I'd just surf the internet and see who ships to your area and find how much of what you can buy in one shipment. Zibal 60 and Sensei you might even be able to get off NCIX so really only EBay the monitor and you're golden.
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July 7, 2012 1:54:47 AM

If you could do that for I would be so grateful thanks man!
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July 7, 2012 2:25:12 AM

2709891,12,1253415 said:
I didn't build it on a site, just pulled it out of memory from good items. It'll probably run close to 1800 bucks; I could newegg it but you being in B.C./Canada, you would want to use NCIX.

I'd just surf the internet and see who ships to your area and find how much of what you can buy in one shipment. Zibal 60 and Sensei you might even be able to get off NCIX so really only EBay the monitor and you're golden.[/quotem]

How do i build what you listed from scratch? everysite i go to you have to start from a pc and upgrade it

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July 7, 2012 2:39:51 AM

Go to http://NewEgg.com OR HttP://NCIX.com and see what I mean. You buy all the parts and put it together. It's very simple with hundreds of thousands if not millions of tutorials, videos, walk throughs, how-tos, etc.
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July 7, 2012 2:44:59 AM

which one out of the starter five on ncix should i use?
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July 7, 2012 2:49:19 AM

don't use a starter... *Facepalm*

Buy all the parts from scratch so to speak. Individually pick your HHD, SSD, Mobo, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, O-Drive, etc. etc. etc. Then you put it together yourself. It is very, very easy. I'm working on my second one myself and am making my own custom 1k watercooling system. *Gins...* Ooooh.. I can't wait to put it together in 2 weeks. :D 
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July 7, 2012 3:03:01 AM

but when you click pc builder it brings up five choices
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July 7, 2012 3:03:46 AM

oh so i would literaly build it myself?
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July 7, 2012 3:04:43 AM

?? ...

Just go here - http://pcpartpicker.com/ Easiest way to find parts and build a computer.
Then click on system build and follow the list.

Just add 1 of everything that I listed on there for the computer parts. (Except ram. Get 2x4GB sticks.)
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July 7, 2012 3:08:02 AM

Buying separate parts from a website or in a retail store will give better results than a prebuild PC. For all the money you are speending, about $2000 you would be able to build a REALLY powerful Gaming Machine.

Those parts, that you said at the begining will make at much $800, the rest is for the pokets of the builder that is making the PC for you. Save all that money, buy all those parts and watch a couple videos and build the PC by yourself, its like LEGOS, or kind off.

Also it IS pretty fun to make something by yourself and you will feel proud of it. IF you really dont want to do it yourself because you know NOTHING.. You can always call a friend to help you out, or pay some one... lets say $50 just for build it.

Build PC is easy, fun and in most cases it's non brainer. You dont need a certificate in Rocket Science to plug a couple of cables, read a manual, or watch a video...

Dont get scam bro!
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July 7, 2012 3:25:02 AM

im having some trouble finding the parts, is it possible you could find them and send me a link?
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July 7, 2012 4:44:12 AM

Eh... newegg sucks.

Bro I'm telling you. Go to PCPartPicker.com and pick out all those parts I told you to get, you won't regret it. Top quality *** right there. I use most of that or at the very least the brand in my rig and it cost almost 3 grand now.
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July 7, 2012 6:38:01 AM

Ah well just thought it would help, newer watched it myself. :o 
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July 7, 2012 7:24:41 AM

This is my PC Build.

Case: NZXT Switch 810
Mobo: MSI Z77A-GD65
SSD: Mushkin Cronos Delux 120GB
HHD: Samsung F3 (Spin whatever)
RAM: 8GB Muskin DDR3 1600
GPU: XFX 7970 Black Edition Double Dissipation
PSU: 750W Rosewill Capstone 80 Gold Plus (maybe bronze? I forget.
O-Drive: ASUS DVDRW drive. $17
Scythe Kaze Master Fan controller and temp monitor.
Fans: 4 Aeroshark Cools and 5 Akasa Vipers.

Cooling Watercooling Loops:
I own an H80 and love it.

WC Loop.
420 GTS Rad
5 Akasa Vipers push/pull
Danger Den 1/4 tubing
Bitmaster Fittings, 4 straight, 4 90 degree
FrozenQ Liquid Fusion Dual Bay Reservoir
Alphacool VPP655 Pump. 1500 l/h
Mayhem's DT 5Noz Water Block
LED Rocket Cold Cathode switch Case Mod
20" Logisys 180* CCT lighting

Others:

Q270 CatLeap Yamakasi Monitor 27" S-IPS
SteelSeries Sensei Mouse
Mionix Zibal 60 Keyboard

Audio:
Klipsch 2.1 THX Speakers
Object 2 Amp by JDSLabs
AKG Q701 HP

Adding either a Xonar Essence or a X-Fi Titanium sound card soon.

If you can pick out these parts and order them, then your best bet is BestBuy.
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July 7, 2012 8:22:53 AM

Alright Holmes. Let me Help you out here

For $2000 you can make a KILLER gaming rig. so listen up

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$235

MOBO: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$190

RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$58

SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$110

HDD:HGST Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723020BLA642 (0f12115) 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$150

GPU: SLI......2 x GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$430 x 2 = $860

CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$80

PSU: OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$100

SPEAKERS: Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
$100

MONITOR: Yamakasi Catleap Q270 27" LED 2560x1440 WQHD S-IPS Widescreen Monitor
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Yamakasi-Catleap-Q270-27-LED...
$326

KEYBOARD and MOUSE: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 920-002950 Black 8 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$30

Optical Drive: LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS90B - Retail - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$20

Prices include shipping.

TOTAL = $ 2259.............. i know u said ur budget is 2000, but if u can spend 2259, then you'll get a killer PC

if you can't afford anything above 2000, u can drop one GTX 670. that'll bring the total to 2259-430 = $1829, but NOTE since ur buying an awesome 27" Monitor at 2560x1440, i recommend the GTX 670 SLI if you're gonna be playing Crysis 2, Alien VS Predator, or Metro 2033 (these are the a beast of a game in terms on GPU requirement). BECAUSE @ 2560x1440 at ULTRA (Maximum) settings you'll get around 50 average FPS with a single GTX 670. But with GTX 670 SLI, you'll easily get 90 average FPS at those same settings.
Single GTX 670 will rape mostly ALL other games like a hot knife thru butter.

so its a matter of if u can afford to shell the $2239 or NOT....if you can go ahead, if Not then just buy a single GTX 670............You can always add another card for SLI down the road ANYTIME though (your PSU+Mobo are ready for it)


HAPPY GAMING!
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July 7, 2012 9:12:23 AM

lethalsam said:
Alright Holmes. Let me Help you out here

For $2000 you can make a KILLER gaming rig. so listen up

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$235

MOBO: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$190

RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$58

SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$110

HDD:HGST Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723020BLA642 (0f12115) 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$150

GPU: SLI......2 x GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$430 x 2 = $860

CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$80

PSU: OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$100

SPEAKERS: Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
$100

MONITOR: Yamakasi Catleap Q270 27" LED 2560x1440 WQHD S-IPS Widescreen Monitor
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Yamakasi-Catleap-Q270-27-LED...
$326

KEYBOARD and MOUSE: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 920-002950 Black 8 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$30

Optical Drive: LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS90B - Retail - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
$20

Prices include shipping.

TOTAL = $ 2259.............. i know u said ur budget is 2000, but if u can spend 2259, then you'll get a killer PC

if you can't afford anything above 2000, u can drop one GTX 670. that'll bring the total to 2259-430 = $1829, but NOTE since ur buying an awesome 27" Monitor at 2560x1440, i recommend the GTX 670 SLI if you're gonna be playing Crysis 2, Alien VS Predator, or Metro 2033 (these are the a beast of a game in terms on GPU requirement). BECAUSE @ 2560x1440 at ULTRA (Maximum) settings you'll get around 50 average FPS with a single GTX 670. But with GTX 670 SLI, you'll easily get 90 average FPS at those same settings.
Single GTX 670 will rape mostly ALL other games like a hot knife thru butter.

so its a matter of if u can afford to shell the $2239 or NOT....if you can go ahead, if Not then just buy a single GTX 670............You can always add another card for SLI down the road ANYTIME though (your PSU+Mobo are ready for it)


HAPPY GAMING!


It was a good attempt but that build is terrabad.

IB overheats more than SB and you didnt even include a heatsink. The speakers, mouse, and keyboard sucks. Logitech as lost their touch and is surpassed by much better products.

The Mobo is TOTAL overkill. He doesn't even plan on OC let alone know what it means so the Extreme 4 is a no-go.

That HDD is HORRIBLE! HGST!? Jeez might as well mention WD.. Samsung or Seagate are very reliable and dont DOA or break within a few months.

PSU is very good for what he needs.

If you are going to SLI to 670s you don't buy them at the same time *facepalm* The only reason someone would SLI a 670 is if they got one first, then bought another one months later. Go for the 680 and when you get money buy another 680 and SLI or get a 78/7970 series.

HAF 912 is outdated and is horrible for what he needs. He's spending 2 grand and your offering him a MID TOWER?!?!?!? Full tower ATX or go home.

Optical drive is good but ram is eh.. G. Skill is okay but i'd rather him go Mushkin or maybe even Corsair Dominators.

He is going to game so a wireless mouse and keyboard is probably my biggest beef and the dumb thing on here. Wired ALWAYS have faster response time and he'll want a durable, programmable mouse and a durable mechanical keyboard.


@Holmes - Don't waste your money on that build. No offense to lethalsam, I'm sure he meant well but that build is just terrible. Also a good heatsink for the i5 SB is the CM Hyper 212. Unless you don't have AC or something and it's very hot where you are; in that case I'd recommend the XSPC RASA 750 RS240.

GL and message back if you need more help.

Edit: Actually I change my build for you, go with a MSI Z77A-GD45, it's more than enough mobo for what you need and it should have the Overclock genie which is very handy. With intel turbo boost and OC genie you can an i5-2550k to around 3.8 - 4.2 GHz by just pressing the OC genie button on the mobo.
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July 7, 2012 1:54:18 PM

Please folks, let's help! Don not argue witch Build is better! the OP may doesnt even know what are the parts listed. Just make the point clear, and encourage him to build his own PC without spend tons of cash.


This is not matter of what build is better, keep this constructive !


Holmes295, I suggest you that understand a little whats the function of each part.

If you are willing to spend money in something you SHOULD know what are you spending.


That Link is pretty good, and it doesnt matter what site you are buying, you just have to know what to do, that's the help we can provide.



1st: Todays cheap PC (about 500$) are "enough" for web browsing, watching and gaming some old games and some newers at low resolution. I can even play WoW in my Pentium Dual Core 2.0ghz with the integrate GPU @720p at work ! Lol!

2nd: PC's are easy to understand, just are parts working together.

You need for a PC just 5 important things for a PC, everything else are adds for "necesity" but a PC can work without them.


A) Processor-CPU : For today gaming a Quad Core processor is the way to go.

B)Motherboard-mobo: Its pretty much the "body" of the PC. It´s where all pieces are interconected, those comes (depending the technology) upgradability.

C) Hard Drive: It's where all the info, as windows are instaled without it a PC can start and even boot, but its completly necesary.

D)Memory RAM: its where the info comes, and goes between the processor, HDD and other components, more memory, more info can transit over it and you will get performance.

E)Power Supply: Its obviously the energy suply for the PC, it tranforms 110/220 to 12v. Its necesary buy a good quality one, because a cheap one can burn your components

With this components are the core of a computer, graphics card, DVD room, sound card, flopy drive and all that kind of things are no necessary for a pc to work

Today games are becoming more demanding on processing power, and it where a Graphic Card Unit comes (GPU) With it you will be able to play games.


Toms (and other sites) have many articles about the best card, processor, SSD, or case for the money.... You can check them out, compare and then ask the comunity.


You are new bulding PC so DO NOT OVERCLOCK, dont get a K processor or kind of... Go step over step, 1st learn how to build a PC then, learn how solve some simple problems and indentify what parts are those parts.

When you have your PC done, you can play games and web browse, then if you wonder how to OC you can try...

By the way, if you get an I5 3500series or I7 3700 series at stock speed will not hold back or bottleneck any SINGLE High END card as HD7970 or GTX680....

Any Question we are really happy to help!!

That post deseves a read from the OP READ IT! NOT MATTER HOW LONG IT IS! lol !





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July 7, 2012 4:46:08 PM

horaciopz said:
Please folks, let's help! Don not argue witch Build is better! the OP may doesnt even know what are the parts listed. Just make the point clear, and encourage him to build his own PC without spend tons of cash.


This is not matter of what build is better, keep this constructive !


Holmes295, I suggest you that understand a little whats the function of each part.

If you are willing to spend money in something you SHOULD know what are you spending.


That Link is pretty good, and it doesnt matter what site you are buying, you just have to know what to do, that's the help we can provide.



1st: Todays cheap PC (about 500$) are "enough" for web browsing, watching and gaming some old games and some newers at low resolution. I can even play WoW in my Pentium Dual Core 2.0ghz with the integrate GPU @720p at work ! Lol!

2nd: PC's are easy to understand, just are parts working together.

You need for a PC just 5 important things for a PC, everything else are adds for "necesity" but a PC can work without them.


A) Processor-CPU : For today gaming a Quad Core processor is the way to go.

B)Motherboard-mobo: Its pretty much the "body" of the PC. It´s where all pieces are interconected, those comes (depending the technology) upgradability.

C) Hard Drive: It's where all the info, as windows are instaled without it a PC can start and even boot, but its completly necesary.

D)Memory RAM: its where the info comes, and goes between the processor, HDD and other components, more memory, more info can transit over it and you will get performance.

E)Power Supply: Its obviously the energy suply for the PC, it tranforms 110/220 to 12v. Its necesary buy a good quality one, because a cheap one can burn your components

With this components are the core of a computer, graphics card, DVD room, sound card, flopy drive and all that kind of things are no necessary for a pc to work

Today games are becoming more demanding on processing power, and it where a Graphic Card Unit comes (GPU) With it you will be able to play games.


Toms (and other sites) have many articles about the best card, processor, SSD, or case for the money.... You can check them out, compare and then ask the comunity.


You are new bulding PC so DO NOT OVERCLOCK, dont get a K processor or kind of... Go step over step, 1st learn how to build a PC then, learn how solve some simple problems and indentify what parts are those parts.

When you have your PC done, you can play games and web browse, then if you wonder how to OC you can try...

By the way, if you get an I5 3500series or I7 3700 series at stock speed will not hold back or bottleneck any SINGLE High END card as HD7970 or GTX680....

Any Question we are really happy to help!!

That post deseves a read from the OP READ IT! NOT MATTER HOW LONG IT IS! lol !



Good little break down but without arguing the OP could get a piece of *** build.
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