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a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2008 3:12:30 AM

Hey guys,

Before I waffle on, I have looked through and found lots of info about cards and such but to be honest graphics cards aren't my speciality and I'm stuck to say the least.

I suppose I should start by saying that I have £150 to spend approx, I'm running a :-

Dual core E6300 OC'd 3.2ghz
2GB OCZ Reaper
Gigabyte 965P-DS3 Board

and currently a crappy card, I've never really been into games TBH...

BUT.. BUT... now I have found a certain enjoyment for gaming and now with a 20mb BB online gaming too, but with my current card an 8500GT Nvidia I have quickly realised it's limitations... windows pinball i fear :-P

If it helps I will be mainly playing crysis, bioshock and other pretty high intensive games

So here is the muse, I have £150 to spend and have been considering a few options..

ATI 3870x2 Quad Core 512mb card - looks impressive and results seems great
ATI 4850 512mb - As above
Nvidia 8800GT 512mb - Seems good but possible old hat now?

Anyways sorry for the babbling, if users of the above gear shed light or anyone can offer alternatives I am all ears :) 

Thank You in advance!
Alex.

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September 1, 2008 3:19:45 AM

Crysis your best bet is Nvidia card, but You didn't mention your mobo, if you have a SLI board, then your best bet would be a 260 GTX or something along the line of. That would meet your demands. But if you have a CrossX board, then I would go for the HD 4850.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2008 3:48:44 AM

sorry to sound an ass but i mentioned it lol...

Gigabyte 965P-DS3 mobo :) 

and it's not an SLI board... i considered revamping my system but to be honest the amount i get to play it's not worth it..

not game specific i only wanted to give examples really, im looking for something generally good...

the 4850 looks nice does it overclock well? how is the standard fan attatched...

thanks for reply liquid :) 
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September 1, 2008 5:01:30 AM

If you go for the 4850, alot of ppl will tell you to go Dual Slot, since most of the cards run at around 80 degrees C. It isa a really good card, 15% faster than the 8800 Ultra.

But now that I see it, for a board like that...how much do 9800 GX2s cost where you live? I mean since its not an SLI or Cross Fire board, you might as well get a dual GPU card:) 

But if thats not the case for you the 4850 would do you just fine:) 
September 1, 2008 5:49:39 AM

if u want 4850 then go for non reference cooler like Powercolor PCS HD 4850 512 MB or Sapphire Toxic HD 4850 512 MB.

both cost around 120 Great Britain Pound or around $210.
September 1, 2008 6:12:45 AM

forgot to mention they both are factory overclocked Sapphire has much more headroom for O.C later on. but with noise level of cooler higher than PowerColor. So its my choice around 4850. for Nvidia side
MSI N9800GT-T2D1G-OC GeForce 9800 GT 1GB it has Quad heatpipe for cooling which cost as same as reference 4850 512 around $180 with lot of headroom for O.C.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2008 11:51:32 AM

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies guys

Can't seem to find a 9800GTx2 for less than £185 which is over budget im afraid!

what is the difference between a stock sapphire 4850 and toxic? is just the cooling system or is it an actually improved card?

I mean if i get the standard 4850 and bought a good cooler would that do the job?

also where can i get a 4850 tocix for £120? :) 

Alex
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2008 11:52:46 AM

and liquid....

in the light of it being a non crossfire or sli board would you still choose a 4850 over a 3870x2?

Alex.
September 1, 2008 11:58:46 AM

definately not, the 4850 and the 3870 X2 are seen to perform on par sometimes, and I would never suggest a dual GPU over a Single GPU if the Dual GPU is really that close, unless there was a huge price gap:) 

4850 would be a lot better choice.

here in canada the 3870 X2 is still much more expensive than the 4850.:) 

Its not like the situation with the 280 GTX and the 9800 GX2 where the GX2 is almost half the price.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2008 12:01:35 PM

ahh i see :) 

well the 4850 toxic is the one for me :) 

If anyone knows of some really cheap uk prices i would be most appeciated!

Thanks again guys, especially liquid!

Peace. x
September 1, 2008 12:04:32 PM

np good luck:) 
September 1, 2008 12:14:28 PM

I think the 150 budget speaks for itself considering he passed up the GX2 which was 15 more (than the 4870) and would kill either of these 2 cards:) 
September 1, 2008 12:31:34 PM

I suspect the £185 was excluding VAT ending up in a price of around £217 Where as the 4870 price is including vat. £185 including VAT would be a very good price for the card. Even at that price though I would pass on it.

I dont like to rely on patchy SLI \ Crossfire support for performance, particularly given that my most played game doesnt even work with SLI enabled, even though its demanding when using the DX10 options...

I figured £20 isnt a lot of over budget for a decent boost, even if the card is out of his ability to extend his budget, then the ebuyer site is still worth looking at for prices as its generally one of the best priced places on the net over here. He can get a sapphire dual slot cooler card there for £110 inc vat and they offer free delivery! Which can help extend the budget a little...

I generally think if you can stretch the budget a little for the graphics card you rarely regret it long term.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2008 1:36:21 PM

hey guys, excuse ignorance but i may be very simple however..

looking at overclockers.co.uk reviews of the two cards mentioned

powercolor 4870 and sapphire toxic 4850

and the 4870 does bear the 4850 in 3dmark scores flat out but overclocked the 4850 comes out on top and from what i've read the toxic has bags of oc'ing left on it? how about the 4870 does that overclock above the toxic?

and sorry yes the 9800x2 is £220
September 1, 2008 2:06:13 PM

The toxic as far as Im aware isnt a special GPU in anyway its just got better cooling and a warranty that covers the overclocking.

The 4850 and 4870 GPU's are the same GPU in effect, with different clock speeds, cooling solutions, more power available (2 power connectors required on the 4870) and memory speed.

The 4870 should come with standard speeds far higher than the toxic 4850 (675mhz for the toxic 4850, 750mhz for the 4870) The 4870 also has far faster memory than the toxic 4850 (2200 mhz on the toxic 3600mhz on the 4870) I dont see how the toxic can come close to the standard 4870 on performance...

As far as overclocking potential goes, on core speed a toxic MAY be able to reach the same speed as a 4870 due to the aftermarket cooler, I just dont know the toxic cooler to know if its better than the 4870 one, certain the 4870 cooler is far more effective than the the stock 4850 one.

If the toxic 4850 does manage to hit the core speeds of the stock 4870 it would still be behind on memory speeds! And likely to be less stable. The 4870 certainly has overclocking potential beyond its stock clocks.
September 1, 2008 2:08:39 PM

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sorry to sound an ass but i mentioned it lol...

Gigabyte 965P-DS3 mobo :) 

and it's not an SLI board... i considered revamping my system but to be honest the amount i get to play it's not worth it..

not game specific i only wanted to give examples really, im looking for something generally good...

the 4850 looks nice does it overclock well? how is the standard fan attatched...

thanks for reply liquid :) 


I have that board since Sept 06 and I don't want to hear about how old and obsolete it is.......... :(  . My normal cycle would mean it wouldn't get upgraded until Sept 09 but I'm going to hold out for Intel Sandy Bridge which takes me through to 2010.

The HD 4850 is a good card as well as the 9800 GTX+, however if you can stretch to a HD 4870 it would be worth the extra money.
September 1, 2008 3:36:22 PM

ppl are fogeting that the 4870 can OC as well.

And I didn't kno including VAT it would be that expensive:p 

Here in Canada GX2s go for as low as 200$ (Galaxy) 400 (Palit).

I would recommend paying a little extra and doing 4870 since its a 15% increase over the 4850 :) 
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