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Just bought Cosmos SE from Cooler Master and as suggested here by their representative I bought the Cooler Master Seidon 240M water cooling for my new rig. Well after ordering it I thought for a while and just realized that the only two options for my 240m are top and front. Obviously the best would be front, but because of the bad design of Cosmos SE this requires removing of the hard drives rack which is something I try to avoid. So I guess it leaves me with no options at all, but top.
Now after having a good thought about this, I realized why every review and comment I've read about Comsos SE mentioned how stupid the front design is. Very very bad design. I mean, why should I remove all of the hard drive rack in order to install a 240 radiator in front?? Bottom hard drive racks are very difficult to use, that space could have been used for a 240 radiator fit. Anyway, I'm terribly disappointing by Cooler Master as their loyal fan for years. If I could, I would replace the case for something else at this instant, but the damage has already been done. Now I guess I should find a way to make the best out of it.
The case has two front fans, one on back and one on top(which I would probably remove or move in order to install the water cooling)
So is it worth it to sacrifice the hard drive rack in order to install the 240 in front or should I go with the top spot?
If going for top, the dilemma would be how to set the fans for the top fans?
- If I set them to exhaust, they will remove hot air from the case, but will heat up the radiator.
- And If I set them to intake, they should cool down the radiator, but will blow down the hot air from it back inside the case.
Also other fans would be important as well.
I will be cooling down a i7 4770k and a Saphire HD 7870 in there.
Now after having a good thought about this, I realized why every review and comment I've read about Comsos SE mentioned how stupid the front design is. Very very bad design. I mean, why should I remove all of the hard drive rack in order to install a 240 radiator in front?? Bottom hard drive racks are very difficult to use, that space could have been used for a 240 radiator fit. Anyway, I'm terribly disappointing by Cooler Master as their loyal fan for years. If I could, I would replace the case for something else at this instant, but the damage has already been done. Now I guess I should find a way to make the best out of it.
The case has two front fans, one on back and one on top(which I would probably remove or move in order to install the water cooling)
So is it worth it to sacrifice the hard drive rack in order to install the 240 in front or should I go with the top spot?
If going for top, the dilemma would be how to set the fans for the top fans?
- If I set them to exhaust, they will remove hot air from the case, but will heat up the radiator.
- And If I set them to intake, they should cool down the radiator, but will blow down the hot air from it back inside the case.
Also other fans would be important as well.
I will be cooling down a i7 4770k and a Saphire HD 7870 in there.
Daniel Alexander
October 17, 2014 4:27:59 PM
CM-Patrick
September 19, 2014 12:17:24 PM
Hello el noob,
I understand that it may work for your current setup but due to the amount of motherboards available and differences in heights of the VRM heatsinks, its possible that certain customer will have trouble installing a push/pull setup. This is why we do not recommend this to customers.
Respectfully,
Patrick
CMUSA Support
I understand that it may work for your current setup but due to the amount of motherboards available and differences in heights of the VRM heatsinks, its possible that certain customer will have trouble installing a push/pull setup. This is why we do not recommend this to customers.
Respectfully,
Patrick
CMUSA Support
el noob
September 5, 2014 7:37:04 AM
CM-Patrick said:
Dear spiritfly,You can still install the fans in the exhaust position at the top of the case. You will need to flip them over so that they are in a Pull orientation this way the fans pull air through the radiator and out the top of the case.
Due to the size of the case you will not be able to install a Push/Pull setup as there is not enough room for this in the case.
Again I apologize for the trouble.
Just for the record it IS possible to set push-pull in a cosmos SE case. Its just going to depend on how much clearance the motherboard installed has from the top of the case, what fans & AIO/Radiator are used and if you have a DVD drive (or something that takes as much space) in the top 5.25 bay. I currently have a h100i installed in a push-pull setup using Corsair SP120's on a Asus Sabertooth 7ZZ motherboard without any installation problems in this case.
Frazman
September 5, 2014 12:15:41 AM
ancientgamer said:
hello arifhasim85, first of all, very nice build. I just bought the Cosmos SE and I would build in 1 optical cd/dvd drive at the top and a dual bay reservoir/pump (from the xspc Raystorm 750 ex240: http://www.pcper.com/image/view/31028?return=node%2F585...) just underneath. The problem is the upper fan is blocking the third bay. I saw You managed somehow to get these front fans down, can You tell me how You did it ? Thank You and excuses for my englishBUMP
I have this case and am also struglling with the half blocked fan
ancientgamer
September 1, 2014 1:45:59 AM
hello arifhasim85, first of all, very nice build. I just bought the Cosmos SE and I would build in 1 optical cd/dvd drive at the top and a dual bay reservoir/pump (from the xspc Raystorm 750 ex240: http://www.pcper.com/image/view/31028?return=node%2F585...) just underneath. The problem is the upper fan is blocking the third bay. I saw You managed somehow to get these front fans down, can You tell me how You did it ? Thank You and excuses for my english
arifhasim85
April 30, 2014 8:52:34 PM
aurora446
March 24, 2014 4:54:23 AM
CM-Patrick said:
Dear spiritfly,You can still install the fans in the exhaust position at the top of the case. You will need to flip them over so that they are in a Pull orientation this way the fans pull air through the radiator and out the top of the case.
Due to the size of the case you will not be able to install a Push/Pull setup as there is not enough room for this in the case.
Again I apologize for the trouble.
Would anything prevent you using all 3 optical bays? I want to buy the case and put two front fans, two hdd cage fans, one rear fan and the eisberg 240l prestige. Would anything prevent that?
CM-Patrick
November 12, 2013 2:27:26 PM
Dear spiritfly,
You can still install the fans in the exhaust position at the top of the case. You will need to flip them over so that they are in a Pull orientation this way the fans pull air through the radiator and out the top of the case.
Due to the size of the case you will not be able to install a Push/Pull setup as there is not enough room for this in the case.
Again I apologize for the trouble.
You can still install the fans in the exhaust position at the top of the case. You will need to flip them over so that they are in a Pull orientation this way the fans pull air through the radiator and out the top of the case.
Due to the size of the case you will not be able to install a Push/Pull setup as there is not enough room for this in the case.
Again I apologize for the trouble.
spiritfly
November 12, 2013 1:20:31 PM
CM-Patrick said:
Hello Spirtfly,I apologize. I was not trying to give you a bad suggestion as it does state on our website that the Cosmos SE will support a top mounted 240mm radiator.
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=...
Due to the size of the case, the fans will need to be installed at the top of the case in between the chassis and the plastic top cover. This will fix the issue with the fans making contact with the VRM heatsink at the top of your motherboard. You will also need to install the optical drive in the lower drive bay since it will not fit in the top bay with the radiator installed. We do have PDF’s instructions that I can send you if you need help with the installation.
Please let me know if you have any more questions.
The preferred position of the fans for a top position is exhaust on the bottom side of the radiator, even you mentioned that it is better and suggested that. I am really not comfortable putting them above the radiator as I planned to install other two fans there in a push-pull configuration. This is a BIG design FAIL for this case and I still feel tricked for listening for your advice and getting the seidon 240m.
And as far as the DVD-rom is concerned, I'm aware that I can put it in the lower drive bay, but this leaves me with ONLY ONE drive available left from the initial three that I thought existed by looking at this case. Another BIG DESIGN FAIL for this case.
These two reasons alone made me hate this new case I was so excited about and I was so eagerly waiting for. Not to mention the other cable holes flaws. My motherboard is covering half of the holes for the cables which makes it very inconvenient for not only organizing cables, but also damaging them. The sata cables and main power cable from the PSU are bent so bad that I think they will break any moment.
I really don't like this case and it's design. But the main reason is the 240 not fitting in like it should. If I knew that the ONLY way to fit a 240 water cooling on the top is to set it in an intake position, I would have returned the case while it was untouched. Now I cannot return the Cosms SE back and I'm stuck with it.
Not satisfied with this answer. I wrote to the Cooler Master support about this and see if there's any way to resolve this. I'm very frustrated and I'm already loosing working hours because of this incident here.
CM-Patrick
November 12, 2013 12:38:35 PM
Hello Spirtfly,
I apologize. I was not trying to give you a bad suggestion as it does state on our website that the Cosmos SE will support a top mounted 240mm radiator.
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=...
Due to the size of the case, the fans will need to be installed at the top of the case in between the chassis and the plastic top cover. This will fix the issue with the fans making contact with the VRM heatsink at the top of your motherboard. You will also need to install the optical drive in the lower drive bay since it will not fit in the top bay with the radiator installed. We do have PDF’s instructions that I can send you if you need help with the installation.
Please let me know if you have any more questions.
I apologize. I was not trying to give you a bad suggestion as it does state on our website that the Cosmos SE will support a top mounted 240mm radiator.
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=...
Due to the size of the case, the fans will need to be installed at the top of the case in between the chassis and the plastic top cover. This will fix the issue with the fans making contact with the VRM heatsink at the top of your motherboard. You will also need to install the optical drive in the lower drive bay since it will not fit in the top bay with the radiator installed. We do have PDF’s instructions that I can send you if you need help with the installation.
Please let me know if you have any more questions.
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