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Hi all, i have been searching all night yesterday and most of today and im at the point now where i dont know where else to look. I bought a 4gb GTX 680 on newegg the other day because it was on sale (http:// ) as an upgrade over my 2GB GTX 660. I received it yesterday and installed it and i have not had any major FPS increases in basically any of my games that i have tried it on. I have not noticed a difference in Wildstar, DayZ, or BF4. I thought that it might be a RAM issue as i bought a 4gb stick to add to my 8gb stick. Its the same brand but i noticed the 4gb had different timings so i removed it but did not see any difference.
Here are my specs:
CPU: AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor FD4300WMHKBOX
MOTHERBOARD: BIOSTAR TA970 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-4GD GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10S-8GBXL
Power Supply: 500W
I understand the power supply i have is a bit low for the GPU, but i was told that it could handle the GTX 680 and i havent noticed any problems power wise from monitoring it last night. A friend of mine said that it could be the CPU thats causing the slow down and while i agree its not the best CPU out there i just think i would be seeing better framerates. What i dont get is that i will lower bascially all the settings to medium or low from high and theres barely an increase, if one at all. I am going to try to re-install my drivers when i get home and possibly roll them back a version or two to give that a try. Thank you.
Here are my specs:
CPU: AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor FD4300WMHKBOX
MOTHERBOARD: BIOSTAR TA970 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-4GD GeForce GTX 680 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10S-8GBXL
Power Supply: 500W
I understand the power supply i have is a bit low for the GPU, but i was told that it could handle the GTX 680 and i havent noticed any problems power wise from monitoring it last night. A friend of mine said that it could be the CPU thats causing the slow down and while i agree its not the best CPU out there i just think i would be seeing better framerates. What i dont get is that i will lower bascially all the settings to medium or low from high and theres barely an increase, if one at all. I am going to try to re-install my drivers when i get home and possibly roll them back a version or two to give that a try. Thank you.
Whoazer
June 13, 2014 10:41:07 AM
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bignastyid
June 13, 2014 9:37:29 AM
With some games you need a good overclock on AMD CPUs to make up for the lower core performance, the current motherboard you have only uses a 4+1 VRM phase which will limit it's overclocking capabilities especially with the more power hungry 8-core cpu's. So for a good OC I would suggest replacing the board with a 990 chipset or a a 970 with better VRMs. You could go intel but it will cost more
AMD
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($143.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $228.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:33 EDT-0400
Intel(can overclock)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($143.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $377.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:31 EDT-0400
Intel(no overclocking)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $324.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:36 EDT-0400
AMD
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($143.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $228.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:33 EDT-0400
Intel(can overclock)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($143.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $377.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:31 EDT-0400
Intel(no overclocking)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $324.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 12:36 EDT-0400
Whoazer
June 13, 2014 9:14:29 AM
That_Guy88 said:
Your mobo should be compatible with that CPU. You might also consider the 8320 instead of the 8350 if you want to save a few bucks.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is the exact same chip but just clocked a little lower (3.5 vs 4.0). I have the 8320 and overclocked it to 4.0 without changing the voltage, and that is not too uncommon.
I guess my last question would be is it worth it to upgrade to that cpu? will i see a good fps increase as opposed to my current cpu? or should i bite the bullet and replace both my mobo and cpu with an i7?
That_Guy88
June 13, 2014 8:48:29 AM
Your mobo should be compatible with that CPU. You might also consider the 8320 instead of the 8350 if you want to save a few bucks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is the exact same chip but just clocked a little lower (3.5 vs 4.0). I have the 8320 and overclocked it to 4.0 without changing the voltage, and that is not too uncommon.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is the exact same chip but just clocked a little lower (3.5 vs 4.0). I have the 8320 and overclocked it to 4.0 without changing the voltage, and that is not too uncommon.
Whoazer
June 13, 2014 8:03:06 AM
bignastyid said:
This would be the smallest I would recommendhttp://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
If you want a bit more headroom
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g1065...
I bought the 650W psu thanks for the link. If i upgraded to this CPU would it be worth the price for the upgrade and would it be compatible with my current mobo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
bignastyid
June 13, 2014 7:48:06 AM
This would be the smallest I would recommend
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
If you want a bit more headroom
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g1065...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb...
If you want a bit more headroom
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g1065...
Whoazer
June 13, 2014 7:43:55 AM
bignastyid
June 13, 2014 7:38:43 AM
Whoazer
June 13, 2014 7:30:55 AM
bignastyid said:
Whoazer said:
AMDRadeonHD said:
What's your exact PSU name?I was unable to locate the specific model searching for the part number but i got it with my case
link to case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You should seriously consider replacing that psu ASAP. Putting that low end PSU under the load you are is extremely risky to the system and could very well fry that new video card and anything else attached to the PSU.
Wouldnt my components underclock themselves if they werent getting enough power?
bignastyid
June 13, 2014 7:19:41 AM
Whoazer said:
AMDRadeonHD said:
What's your exact PSU name?I was unable to locate the specific model searching for the part number but i got it with my case
link to case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You should seriously consider replacing that psu ASAP. Putting that low end PSU under the load you are is extremely risky to the system and could very well fry that new video card and anything else attached to the PSU.
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