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Fx 8350 + r9 280x vs Intel i5 4760k + Gtx 760
hi all

plz with simple words explain to me why ?
i am no to pc gaming and i can't decide where to go i read over a million article about 8 core for next gen and i5 for old games but people still argue alot and i can't just get it clear ?


if i want to play Assassin's creed unity Watch dogs and GTA V which one i should be good with ?

i am playing at 1680*1050 so can u help me with this ? i am sure u can but try not to confuse me plz :)  :) 

and what's the whole matter with mantel ?
is physics that important to go with a nvidia card ?

N.B there won't be any overclocking >
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June 13, 2014 2:23:34 PM

I'd go intel with the gtx 760. Its not as good as the 280x, but not noticeable at those settings. Plus it would probably run almost half the energy, be a lot more quiet, and better all around. plus then you don't have to worry about overheating or stock cooler upgrading to better, and such.
June 13, 2014 11:29:02 AM

then for r9 280x or gtx 760 i better go with the best price

and i5 4440 as the cpu ..

ok thx all :) 
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June 13, 2014 11:22:38 AM

I agree with geofelt. At your resolution, and in actual games (not benchmarks), you are not likely to see any notable difference.

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June 13, 2014 11:09:51 AM

You will not likely see a big difference between a i5-4440 and a i5 4670

You will also not see a significant difference between GTX760 and R9-280X.

Doing some research, I find that the most popular R9-280X has 33% negative feedback on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
By comparison, the most popular GTX760 card is at 6%
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 13, 2014 10:57:54 AM

will i be able to see a huge difference using 4440 instead of 4670 ??

if i go with 4440 to save for a better GPU as r9 280x instead of gtx 760 will this be better ?

after all guys you were really more than helpful :) 
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June 13, 2014 10:36:45 AM

^Clarification: All CPUs need a CPU cooler, and the ones you are considering come with one, BUT, the AMD stock cooler tends to get loud under load, so you may wish to buy an aftermarket cooler if only to reduce noise. Assuming it will fit in your case, I recommend a 120mm tower cooler other than the frequently-parroted Hyper212 EVO. That's not a bad cooler, but competitors (e.g. Enermax, NZXT, Gammax, Rosewill) offer similar performance for sometimes substantially less money. This makes the Hyper212 EVO a bang/buck Loser, and I try not to recommend Losers. Since you aren't planning to overclock, even a 92mm cooler should be sufficient.
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June 13, 2014 10:35:31 AM

1680x1050 isn't that much these days. Either of your video card choices will let you run games pretty much maxed out.

i5-4670k can be overclocked, so if you aren't planning on it you would be better off with the i5-4590. Either would have more per-core performance then the AMD FX chips, of course, they cost more.

FX chips like the 8320 have 4 dual core modules, effectively eight cores. In applications that can utilize many cores it can perform better then an i5, in general though, for gaming, an i5 is the better choice.

PhysX is a visual modification that some games support, it requires extra processing to handle these visual changes (Things like ragdoll physics and collision). Mantle is more a low-level GPU access language that AMD recently introduced. It allows high levels of optimization at the cost of development time.

Pricing them out comes about the same. With the AMD config you would have better game performance on GPU bound titles, with the intel setup you would do better in CPU bound titles.

Either configuration is a potent gaming machine.


(Personnally I would still add a heatsink to this build, the stock one is merely 'okay')
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dJ2bCJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dJ2bCJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($216.60 @ Newegg)
Total: $580.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 13:31 EDT-0400

(CPU cooler is almost mandatory, the stock one is quite noisy under load)
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T3MTzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T3MTzy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($143.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $625.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-13 13:33 EDT-0400

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June 13, 2014 10:35:15 AM

Most of the time, gaming performance is more determined by the graphics card than the cpu.

Comparing the R9-280X and the GTX760, the 280X is a bit stronger.
But, it also costs more. The performance differences are only detectable by synthetic benchmarks.
Either would serve you well at 1680 x 1050.
You will get what you pay for at any but the highest priced cards.

Personally, I think there is a lot of fud about needing 8 cores for games.
The fact is that few games today can effectively use more than 2-3 cores.
There are exceptions like FSX.
Game developers want the largest possible audience for their products. They will not willingly spend the extra cost of producing games that require 8 cores to run well. That will reduce their market.

Mantle reduces the cpu cost of graphics drivers. It is of most benefit to low priced cpu chips. It makes little difference in FX-8350 and 4760K class cpu's.

Some games can use PhysX to enhance eye candy. Mostly, it is not an important factor.

On the FX-8350 vs 4690K, the intel cores are about 30% faster per clock. For gaming, intel is better. For rendering and multithreaded apps, FX does well.

And the intel "K" suffix cpus are for overclocking. If you will not overclock, you can buy a cheaper chip and a cheaper motherboard.
Still, I would pay 5% more for a "K" suffix cpu and a Z97 motherboard. You are not required to overclock initially.
But, that 5% price increase will bring you a conservative 20% increase in cpu capability. That will increase the longevity of your purchase.

For the graphics card a GTX760 will be appropriate. If you have the budget, make that a GTX770.
June 13, 2014 10:33:41 AM

ok no k version for me ... i will make very simple for my brain :D 

if u have I5 4670 and fx 8350
with gtx 760 and r9 280x

what will u choose ?
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June 13, 2014 10:30:01 AM

if you are on a budget, get the 8320. If you have enough to get the i5-4670, get it. Since you aren't overclocking you don't need a "K" CPU.

Either of these CPU/GPU would go well with the games you want to play. You will need a CPU cooler for your 8320 but not your 4670; if that makes any difference to your decision.

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