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Hey guys,
I did a recent mobo and CPU swap in one of my rigs. It currently has 6-core i7-3970x CPU @3.5GHz. 16GB RAM, 3 TB storage (combined between SSD and HDD), GT630 graphics card, windows 7 ultimate. MSI MS7760 mobo.
I was primarily using this system for music editing a while ago before the upgrades. now im turning it into a file server. however, after the swap it seem my computer isnt performing as it should. its slow at times even when i'm not doing anything intensive. Indexing is off, graphics are set to "optimize for performance". no background processes are running except for antivirus.
Windows Experience index is rating my CPU at 3.7. I've seen other threads where users are getting 8+ on the same CPU. I havent overclocked it yet, but i would assume out of the box i should be getting better numbers and performance than what i'm seeing. Do you guys have any thoughts on what could be causing my issues?
Thanks
I did a recent mobo and CPU swap in one of my rigs. It currently has 6-core i7-3970x CPU @3.5GHz. 16GB RAM, 3 TB storage (combined between SSD and HDD), GT630 graphics card, windows 7 ultimate. MSI MS7760 mobo.
I was primarily using this system for music editing a while ago before the upgrades. now im turning it into a file server. however, after the swap it seem my computer isnt performing as it should. its slow at times even when i'm not doing anything intensive. Indexing is off, graphics are set to "optimize for performance". no background processes are running except for antivirus.
Windows Experience index is rating my CPU at 3.7. I've seen other threads where users are getting 8+ on the same CPU. I havent overclocked it yet, but i would assume out of the box i should be getting better numbers and performance than what i'm seeing. Do you guys have any thoughts on what could be causing my issues?
Thanks
cmac22 said:
Ok. I followed all of your answers. I upgraded my cooling system to Corsair H110 ( i couldnt find the noctua locally). I upgraded all of my drivers from intel, and windows. I also flashed bios to the newest version and installed all other latest drivers for my mobo. Now my CPU temp bounces between 38-41C which is significantly lower than the 84C i was hitting before. The performance has definitely increased as well. Unclocked, I'm hitting 7.8 on the experience rating. It's only going to serve as a media server now, so i doubt i will overclock it.
Thanks again for all of your help and input.
That's good to hear. Incorrect temperature reporting is a common symptom of an unsupported CPU. It's unlikely that you CPU was actually running at 84 degrees centigrade, it was almost certainly an inaccurate reading (or rather an inaccurate representation of an accurate reading). The digital thermal sensor doesn't spit out a temperature, it spits out a value relative to a factory calibrated set point which is then passed through a lookup table to obtain an appropriate approximation in degrees.
I often see posters who are absolutely certain that their microprocessor is running below room temperature... physics should be a required course.
cmac22
June 22, 2014 8:03:13 PM
Ok. I followed all of your answers. I upgraded my cooling system to Corsair H110 ( i couldnt find the noctua locally). I upgraded all of my drivers from intel, and windows. I also flashed bios to the newest version and installed all other latest drivers for my mobo.
Now my CPU temp bounces between 38-41C which is significantly lower than the 84C i was hitting before. The performance has definitely increased as well. Unclocked, I'm hitting 7.8 on the experience rating. It's only going to serve as a media server now, so i doubt i will overclock it.
Thanks again for all of your help and input.
Now my CPU temp bounces between 38-41C which is significantly lower than the 84C i was hitting before. The performance has definitely increased as well. Unclocked, I'm hitting 7.8 on the experience rating. It's only going to serve as a media server now, so i doubt i will overclock it.
Thanks again for all of your help and input.
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i7Baby said:
If he had a 4 series then I'd agree. But not with an i7 3970KThe firmware uses the CPUID instruction to determine the particular family, model, and stepping information.
The unique CPUID indentifier for the 3970x is 206D7, for the 3960x it is 206D6, and for the 3930k it is 206D5. For the 4930k and 4960x it is 306E4.
If the firmware doesn't recognize 206D7 it will not be able to safely configure it, such as setting power limits or thermal monitoring.
My own motherboard supports only the M0 stepping of the 3820 with the earliest firmware revision (0604), and the C1/C2 steppings of the 3930k/3960x in revision 1005, the M1 stepping of the 3820 in revision 1101, and the 3970x in revision 2105. The Ivybridge-E variants aren't supported until revision 4310.
The chip itself may be identical, but the firmware doesn't know that. It just sees an unknown CPUID and says "well, they may have changed something, better play it safe"
cmac22 said:
Hey guys,I did a recent mobo and CPU swap in one of my rigs. It currently has 6-core i7-3970x CPU @3.5GHz. 16GB RAM, 3 TB storage (combined between SSD and HDD), GT630 graphics card, windows 7 ultimate. MSI MS7760 mobo.
I was primarily using this system for music editing a while ago before the upgrades. now im turning it into a file server. however, after the swap it seem my computer isnt performing as it should. its slow at times even when i'm not doing anything intensive. Indexing is off, graphics are set to "optimize for performance". no background processes are running except for antivirus.
Windows Experience index is rating my CPU at 3.7. I've seen other threads where users are getting 8+ on the same CPU. I havent overclocked it yet, but i would assume out of the box i should be getting better numbers and performance than what i'm seeing. Do you guys have any thoughts on what could be causing my issues?
Thanks
Hi,
This is a pretty common occurrence when a motherboard firmware doesn't have full support for the installed CPU. It will work, but often not fully and may present some information such as temperatures inaccurately. In many cases this is resolved by updating the system firmware (BIOS/UEFI update). The latest firmware revision available for that board is 4.7, which can be downloaded below
http://download.msi.com/bos_exe/7760v47.zip
cmac22
June 21, 2014 9:40:54 PM
lmao. its actually damn near identical. the fan on mine is black though. im going to check some of my local shops tomorrow for the nocdtua (i hate ordering and waiting). if i cant find that i will pick up an h110. i know a shop that has a few in stock close to me. i will post back tomorrow with the results from the cooling upgrade and the driver updates.
The Noctua - as long as it fits in your case.
Edit - bet you got this piece of sh** - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
Edit - bet you got this piece of sh** - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
cmac22
June 21, 2014 9:09:44 PM
I cant find the receipt. I will look for it tomorrow. It has an intel sticker on it though. either way, i would assume based on the temp that it isnt adequate for the system. I'm considering the corsair h100 or a noctua nh-d14. what are your thoughts?
btw: there were a lot a drivers that i had to update. its going through that process now.
btw: there were a lot a drivers that i had to update. its going through that process now.
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