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Is Intel HD Graphics Enough for Gaming? (Intel pentium g3258)
I'm going to buy a pc and I've planned to use the Intel HD graphics, my question is, can it play games like planet side 2 and Tera rising. If not what GPS do u recommend (very cheap one)
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October 10, 2014 1:16:51 PM

Oh and by the way, you speak of facts, have you ever used a Intel pentium g3258? I have used it ,and gamed on it . And for someone on a budget it will perform just fine. it will oc very well. $70 in canada. for a chip that I have oc'ed to 4.6 ghz . great deal!
October 10, 2014 12:58:12 PM

Tom Tancredi, the point some poster miss inma. op said: I'm going to buy a pc and I've planned to use the Intel HD graphics, my question is, can it play games like planet side 2 and Tera rising. If not what GPS do u recommend (very cheap one). Not all people have the money or want to spend the money to start off with. Instead of scaring people away from the fun of pc gaming,we should offer Helpful advice. that is why people ask these types of questions. You are just using google to try and sound superior, so I will try and keep it simple stupid for you. We all had to start somewhere.
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October 10, 2014 7:49:21 AM

1) You are making assumption, many people here who ask questions have some technical knowledge, otherwise its unlikely they would know about this site

2) The phrase is (Keep it simple stupid) :lol:  There isnt a world of difference between the 280 and the 280x, maybe 10%...

The rest.. meh..

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October 10, 2014 7:43:36 AM

4Banger/Rob:

I went way overboard on this thread to prove some points that appear to be missed repeatedly so let me highlight the most important points BEFORE you respond again to consider:

1) OP +95% of the posters here are Joe/Jane 'Dumb' consumer; NOT - DIY/Nerd/Geek/Tech/I can solder parts you/me/other responders are. Given this: KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE before responding;
Consider THIS is a Truism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZcIa_lGCZg

2) OP +95% of the posters here don't know which is a USB or HDMI jack, much less what those 'stand for'. Keep that in mind , I understand making 'generalities' to KISS (Keep It Stupid Simple), but when these 'people' use that as "The Word!", that is misleading as well with over-broad statements Novuake/4Banger were making. As I pointed out there is a WORLD of difference between saying R9 280 and a R9 280X when talking gaming; so that is where I will challenge something.

3) OP +95% of the posters here use the 'I seen it on Youtube' standard as the basis for ALL they know. They saw it on Youtube so it is TRUE! Youtube is TV and TV doesn't lie (quick someone get me cake!). As I outlined above the Youtube standard is "1080P 50FPS on HIGH graphics minimum" they do NOT realize they are seeing, BUT expect 'ALL' PCs to perform because ALL PCs are the same thing, same box, same 'stuff' (they see magical incantations). So when OP of this post or the other thousands post about their 'budget gaming' really they want a CONSOLE like 'plug in press on and it plays like youtube' experience on the $100-$200 PC should cost in their perception.

4) OP +95% of the posters here are constantly 'misinformed' by knee-jerk 'opinion' responses, based solely on one person's perception, not on actual FACTS. A FACT is something that can be by yourself/OP/others independently verified and 'repeatable' outcome; so in my posts to validate ANY opinion I have, I post different links to different reviewers that can afford to get a $1200 TITAN card 'free for review' and provide some actual 'numbers' than "I can so get a 9500GT to give me 300FPS on a 4K display!" BS we see constantly posted / youtubed. Thus you / OP / whomever can see for yourself the 'truth', rather then flame-bait-war back and forth about what YOU believe VS what I believe.


So if you take these and use them as 'the glasses' the OP is posting in, you will see that it isn't 'simple' for them, they are literally way over their head with what they 'want' as compared to what they are 'willing to do', and most of all 80-95% have totally unrealistic (misinformed) ideas / demands because they 'impulse' do things then actually taking 'the time' to sit down with due diligence and understand what it is they need to do to achieve the 'wants' and what they will have to 'settle for'.



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October 10, 2014 1:32:09 AM

Watch dogs is not the standard to beat. Watch dogs is a horribly coded game, that barely performs well on the highest end hardware. Its a game that should be forgotten.
October 10, 2014 12:46:01 AM

@ Tom Tancredi, blah,blah, blah....bf4? not that I ever would because I love a pure game, bf4 was a great game , And I stress WAS. there is a thing called aimbots or something all kinds of cheaters and cheats that will do any of that mumbo jumbo you mentioned. Again not that I would. Anyway you are once again missing the point. budget build. and on a budget a good gpu is key... once again you made me laugh . hehehe. focus
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October 9, 2014 3:23:57 PM

4banger1234 said:
This is an older thread, But this is my first time posting on toms hardware, first off I have been building computers for ten + years (gaming).... but the gpu is everything. ....@ Tom Tancredi, you sir are funny...lol.


For Pre 2012 games, you are absolutely right (probably where most of your building times have been) but since the release of BF4 (2013) and other numerous titles since then, you are very INCORRECT, the GPU isn't everything. The GPU does not calculate the trajectory of shots and how to add weight to the bullet over 'distance' nor weather conditions, or more to the point if it was the 23rd shot as compared to the 3rd shot from your gun. The GPU does not manage the physics of your knife slashing at a solid wood door as compared to using your M203 fired grenade at the door and has a totally different effect / outcome. The GPU no ways controls the coordinated attack by NPC forces putting down suppressive fire to let the sniper scope you out for a head shot. The GPU does not process the real-time location of each player in a multiplayer game, to provide on the mini-map. And many many other things, the GPU does NOT do, which are the key differences to 'current' and future titles of games, which means (as I noted) the need for a EQUALLY Powerful CPU to the GPU. The GPU is NOT everything.
October 9, 2014 2:30:13 PM

This is an older thread, But this is my first time posting on toms hardware, first off I have been building computers for ten + years (gaming) and the reason I am successful @ it, is what i have learned is ... Computers can be as expensive or as cheap as you want. budget is important, but the gpu is everything. A $600 build in canada , will get you playing any game on high to ultra settings for parts only.(not including the cost for someone to build it).The g3258 will overclock really well. I have used this gem on a couple of builds and it performs excellent. (with a good gpu).@ Tom Tancredi, you sir are funny...lol.
August 1, 2014 12:21:00 PM

CryingLegend said:
I'm going to buy a pc and I've planned to use the Intel HD graphics, my question is, can it play games like planet side 2 and Tera rising. If not what GPS do u recommend (very cheap one)

Nope
You can play high games but in 5-10 fps Don't choose intel hd graphics but if you want you can choose intel hd 3000 or 4000 or 5000
intel hd 4000 the best you can play high games but in medium settings FPS=20-30 in low settings FPS= 40-50
intel hd 3000 you can play high game but in low setting FPS=15-30 maybe
intel hd 2000 you can play medium games in low setting FPS=?
intel hd graphics you can't play any high games without lagging FPS=5-15
so choose intel hd 4000

July 31, 2014 12:53:49 PM

I am sorry but right of the gate you are wrong, I can easily blow past 50FPS on a crap game such as watch dogs on a 7950, to an inexperienced user I guess this applies but not for anybody that's in the know, facts are wrong period.

Tom Tancredi said:
Well my assertion is based on facts. First off a R9 280 is a relabelled 7950 (http://www.anandtech.com/show/7828/amd-announces-radeon...) which is NOT the same thing as a R9 280X (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/05/19/am...) which arguably performs much better and also costs more (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/visiontek-video-card-90065...).

Now performance on what your providing, per Techspot your 7950 aka R9 280 gets no more then 55 on MEDIUM settings at 1080p (http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmark...) which is NOT what you said " that can near max any game @ 1920*1080" . Medium settings is NOT close to ULTRA (maximum settings) and still even at MEDIUM it can't get 60FPS. Now you may be mixing it up with a R9 280X which COULD perform at HIGH but still NOT MAXIMUM to get 60FPS (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/26/w...).

So for arguments sake we toss in the 280X instead, bumping the price up another $60, so now your at over $720, and you didnt' even include the cost for a new copy of Windows ($100 roughly http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615). Remember the OP has a 'off the shelf OEM' which means the Windows is tied to ONLY that hardware, nor did you include a proper case with it, probably figuring the OP could reuse the current PC case ? That is a dangerous assumption as many OEMs purposefully make the case design specific and 'non-standard' so for example the OP couldn't put in that PSU or any other PSU except the ones the OEM made for the case which may be limited down to the normal 'under 300W' cheapo ones (look up the numerous PSU won't fit threads if you dont' believe me).

So lets say all is well with the case anyway, your still talking with the added costs differences (as I noted) your now into at least $850 with the additional charges, taxes and shipping without a case (ohh look near the $1000 I said!) AND that is taken for also granted the OP has even the SLIGHTEST clue how to install a PSU. Joe Average Consumer barely can plug in a mouse, and wouldn't be the best to rely on 'build it yourself' design, especially the HIGH risk they screw up and 'break' something DOUBLING the cost by having to fork out a replacement.

As I said before, and now demonstrated with different CITED RESOURCES: Current and soon to be released games to meet the 'I saw it on Youtube standard' 1080P 50FPS on HIGH or more is around $1000 . The ONLY viable alternative that is COST EFFECTIVE (performance vs $$$ spent) is a PS4, as it performs more times at the "I saw it on Youtube Standard' than the Xbox One (http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Nati... http://www.gamespot.com/videos/gs-news-xbox-one-defends... ) as compared to wasting $400 on a very low end PC hardware that can't even get Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare much less any of the other titles to even RUN on the hardware, much less have to compromise so much to 'just play it' which would look terrible (low graphics) constant low performance (single digit FPS) and terrible viewability (800x600 anyone?).


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