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Hy, I know the logic here should be: new CPU/Motherboard. I live in South America and here prices are double than USA.
My system: Core i5 750 (2.66 Ghz). Asus Sabertooth 55i. 8GB Ocz 1600Mhz (at 1333Mhz). Corsair Tx 650W.
Which GPU will perform better on my system: R9 270x or GTX 760?.
I can get: Sapphire R9 270x 2GB Toxic (371usd) or Evga GTX 760 2GB SC ACX (410usd).
(I know you are thinking now: thanks God I live in America!).
I read a lot of reviews and the winner is GTX 760. But my concern is CPU bottleneck.
Last important thing: I will play exclusively Racing Simulator games like Assetto Corsa, RaceRoom, Project Cars, etc. So, I need quick GPU response and I don´t care ultra image quality.
Thanks a lot community!.
Julio.
My system: Core i5 750 (2.66 Ghz). Asus Sabertooth 55i. 8GB Ocz 1600Mhz (at 1333Mhz). Corsair Tx 650W.
Which GPU will perform better on my system: R9 270x or GTX 760?.
I can get: Sapphire R9 270x 2GB Toxic (371usd) or Evga GTX 760 2GB SC ACX (410usd).
(I know you are thinking now: thanks God I live in America!).
I read a lot of reviews and the winner is GTX 760. But my concern is CPU bottleneck.
Last important thing: I will play exclusively Racing Simulator games like Assetto Corsa, RaceRoom, Project Cars, etc. So, I need quick GPU response and I don´t care ultra image quality.
Thanks a lot community!.
Julio.
This is becoming tedious I guess , Can you stop arguing please . Ian is trying to help the OP by providing results whether Overclocking the CPU will help or not however he's expanding in what he's doing and including them in the test.
I get your point spentshells , its a valid one however Ian is trying to provide synthetic benchmarks to see if OCing the CPU will help or not (i.e reduce the bottleneck ).
I get your point spentshells , its a valid one however Ian is trying to provide synthetic benchmarks to see if OCing the CPU will help or not (i.e reduce the bottleneck ).
mapesdhs said:
I guess you still haven't checked a dictionary.
Feel free to believe whatever you wish, doesn't matter to me & I really don't care now in arguing
about a word. Fact is, I'm the one doing the real-world tests and providing useful data for the OP,
and that's what matters most of all (you haven't provided a single data point for the OP, not one;
by contrast, I have a load of 3DMark data to type up which is directly relevant).
I've been benchmarking systems for more than 20 years, I know about benchmarking, it's been
my field since early uni days, originally with SGIs. I was working with 3D benchmarking before
3D on PCs even existed.
To the OP, sorry for the delay on the 3DMark writeup, just doing some urgent DIY atm, and had a
couple of rush medical system orders. Will type it up over the weekend, assuming nothing else
crops up.
Ian.
Dictionary? A cpu bottleneck means exactly what I said it does. Seems a shame after 20 years you still don't know what a cpu bottleneck is. Are you reading thread title? AMD R9 or Nvidia Gtx. CPU Bottleneck on Core i5 750 2.66 (Lynnfield).
Again I see I'm wasting my time and yours. I'll leave it to you to do software testing which in no way represent cpu bottlenecking a graphics cards as the title stated. Good on ya though.
I guess you still haven't checked a dictionary.
Feel free to believe whatever you wish, doesn't matter to me & I really don't care now in arguing
about a word. Fact is, I'm the one doing the real-world tests and providing useful data for the OP,
and that's what matters most of all (you haven't provided a single data point for the OP, not one;
by contrast, I have a load of 3DMark data to type up which is directly relevant).
I've been benchmarking systems for more than 20 years, I know about benchmarking, it's been
my field since early uni days, originally with SGIs. I was working with 3D benchmarking before
3D on PCs even existed.
To the OP, sorry for the delay on the 3DMark writeup, just doing some urgent DIY atm, and had a
couple of rush medical system orders. Will type it up over the weekend, assuming nothing else
crops up.
Ian.
Feel free to believe whatever you wish, doesn't matter to me & I really don't care now in arguing
about a word. Fact is, I'm the one doing the real-world tests and providing useful data for the OP,
and that's what matters most of all (you haven't provided a single data point for the OP, not one;
by contrast, I have a load of 3DMark data to type up which is directly relevant).
I've been benchmarking systems for more than 20 years, I know about benchmarking, it's been
my field since early uni days, originally with SGIs. I was working with 3D benchmarking before
3D on PCs even existed.
To the OP, sorry for the delay on the 3DMark writeup, just doing some urgent DIY atm, and had a
couple of rush medical system orders. Will type it up over the weekend, assuming nothing else
crops up.
Ian.
GOM3RPLY3R said:
spentshells said:
This is going nowhere. Enjoy 5 Ghz as there is no card that it would currently bottleneck.After reading, I honestly think that you have no say in this conversation. Calling someone wrong on a thread where you are supposed to discuss to come to a resolution is pretty much frowned upon. I can say so myself when I used to be immature and got banned for 7 Days from here.
Just watch what you say.
I already made it very clear, had you read everything I wrote, you would see that. I've been here for 8 years? I read for about 3 before that. I've worked with computer hardware for 2 before that, trust me I've said a lot of things that have gotten me a warning but never band as I am actually providing information I know for a fact I get warned for being a dick but I've been working on that
. What the OP is describing is finding if the game is cpu or gpu dependant for performance..... NOT bottlenecking. There is nothing to discuss, cpu bottlenecking a gpu is exactly what I described, its a shame that the fellow along with yourself do not seem to think so. I'm not here to argue about things I know factually ,that is a waste of time. I say things matter of factly because they are after all..... facts I've checked.There are a lot of people who correct me here on the forums, I know they are right because I've seen the information they have shared over the years and I do my best to learn from them a lot of people correct me but really have no idea what it is they are talking about. I've seen a lot of the old guard go as they got tired of the playground type environment that pops up here. Everyone is right these days because they read something somewhere but most times only sighting one source, even the some sites are wrong here and there, the only way to confirm that is to read more or actually find out for yourself by checking the hardware.
I've updated my site with the main results. CF definitely doesn't work so well with DX9, though
with the tests I use the frame rates are so high it doesn't matter, except for the stuttering.
Will post later with a summary of the 3DMark & Catzilla data.
Ian.
Hmm, good points! Especially when it's late (not the best sound proofing re shared wall with neighbours).
Catzilla is an odd benchmark. I don't like the web site much, and it's results management is pretty woeful.
It has very few customisation options either. Just not sure how representative it is wrt modern GPU effects
complexity. Either way, I've done the eight tests for the various CPU/GPU combinations at 1080 and 1440.
Running the 4.2/CF 3DMark11 tests as I type.
Ian.
GOM3RPLY3R
October 8, 2014 10:13:12 AM
Lol I know what you mean. Personally, living in a house with other people, I like the headsets because not only can you have a sense of privacy with what you are hearing, it won't bother other people with noise pollution. Other than that, having the speakers right up to your ears allows you to hear different dB of sound that with normal speakers you can't hear because those sound waves aren't strong enough to reach your ears (this is on a very extreme level of course).
I have not used Catzilla, but it looks amazing, I think I'll try it out.
I have not used Catzilla, but it looks amazing, I think I'll try it out.
GOM3RPLY3R
October 8, 2014 5:52:54 AM
I honestly find the noise to be no issue. To make a real world comparison, with its fans on 95%, it sounds similar to air blowing through a ceiling fan. If you have gaming headsets, you literally cannot hear a thing. I think the decibel rating system is overrated and it really comes down to personal preference and real world comparions. Honestly I love the sounds of fans, it makes my machine sound like it's alive, lol. Of course your can pretty much turn the fans off and it shold still stay pretty cool because of the massive heatsink. And the fan whine problem is non existent, I really don't hear what people are saying they hear.
I can probably run some tests today after I get home and I'll let you know how they come out. ^_^
I can probably run some tests today after I get home and I'll let you know how they come out. ^_^
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