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junkeymonkey
October 17, 2014 7:33:49 PM
JackNaylorPE
October 17, 2014 7:28:08 PM
I'm with the monkey guy .... I always wait at least a month.... MSI introduced the fan cut off feature at low temps back in 2008 whjich asus picked up this year.... but with the 9xx card, they went with a new thing, independent fan control.
So when peeps put the card in half of them were like .... OMG my fans stopped.... including some reviewers (see 10:30 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vuh132EsuA
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nv...
Then after they got passed this, they saw one fan stop and said.... OMG one fan is broken ... this also is by design
So after getting past that it tuns out that on some cards, after the 1 fan shuts down and you start gaming, it wasn't kicking in again unless you gave it a nudge w/ ya finger. As anyone who has ever used case fan or radiator fan control knows, you can cut ya voltage down slowly to it stops at say "x" volts, but it needs "x + a lil bit" to get going again to overcome inertia. My giess is in the test lab with cards that had seen some usage, when the geeks set the vBIOS voltage, they didn't take into account that new cards would not have had their bearings 'broken in" and that voltage was not enough.
So there were some frantic users thinking they had broken cards for few days till it was observed that running the fans at 100% for an hour solved the problem for most ,... some used a new vBIOS which solved the problem and some just exchanged the cards..... others observed that the "remove before use" sticker had some pretty tough glue and you could damage the fan removing it if not careful....these are now "fixed' in current cards being shipped but these are the kind of "birthing" issues you see with an new model, especially one with new features.
So when peeps put the card in half of them were like .... OMG my fans stopped.... including some reviewers (see 10:30 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vuh132EsuA
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nv...
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Like the ASUS card, the GTX 970 Gaming 4G features a semi-passive mode, which it calls Zero Frozr. It's something MSI first brought to the market in 2008 (it's keen to clarify that it hasn't copied the ASUS Strix cards here). The temperature cut-off points are similar to the ASUS card – between 60 and 65°C, the fans will spin up; once the GPU drops to about 50°C, they're no longer needed. This carries benefits for noise production, efficiency and fan lifespan.Then after they got passed this, they saw one fan stop and said.... OMG one fan is broken ... this also is by design
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Another feature is called Hybrid Frozr, and this refers to the ability to control both fans independently. Enabling this functionality is a six-pin fan header on the PCB. In automatic mode, one fan is controlled by the GPU temperature while the other is controlled by temeprature measurement ICs dotted around the PCB. MSI claims it can result in a 1.9dB(A) noise reduction, and also offers users the ability to control the two fans independently using its Gaming App.So after getting past that it tuns out that on some cards, after the 1 fan shuts down and you start gaming, it wasn't kicking in again unless you gave it a nudge w/ ya finger. As anyone who has ever used case fan or radiator fan control knows, you can cut ya voltage down slowly to it stops at say "x" volts, but it needs "x + a lil bit" to get going again to overcome inertia. My giess is in the test lab with cards that had seen some usage, when the geeks set the vBIOS voltage, they didn't take into account that new cards would not have had their bearings 'broken in" and that voltage was not enough.
So there were some frantic users thinking they had broken cards for few days till it was observed that running the fans at 100% for an hour solved the problem for most ,... some used a new vBIOS which solved the problem and some just exchanged the cards..... others observed that the "remove before use" sticker had some pretty tough glue and you could damage the fan removing it if not careful....these are now "fixed' in current cards being shipped but these are the kind of "birthing" issues you see with an new model, especially one with new features.
junkeymonkey
October 17, 2014 6:49:34 PM
I never try to jump on first release stuff like with these cards there seems to be a few bugs to be worked out and i'll wait and see if the next release has them resolved its like these cards are beta release to see what complaints come in on them for them to look at and make there adjustments on that..
ImDaBaron
October 17, 2014 6:43:02 PM
SAADA
October 17, 2014 6:41:57 PM
JackNaylorPE
October 17, 2014 5:43:02 PM
There's a good version ? All kidding aside, the Classified is a great card but other than that, I have been disappointed with every SC and FTW that I have run into....the SC had nothing to distinguish them from the reference cards and the one FTW my son owned was a nightmare (20 support calls, 5 RMAs, 18 months) ....
junkeymonkey
October 17, 2014 5:26:15 PM
SAADA
October 17, 2014 5:06:24 PM
junkeymonkey
October 17, 2014 2:27:41 PM
this is the one i'm waiting on to se how it reviews of there 970's
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-297...
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-297...
ImDaBaron
October 17, 2014 2:18:03 PM
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