Ubisoft Confirms SecuROM for Far Cry 2 - Page 2

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Isn't that what Sims2 used? I didn't play it so I only dealt with it occasionally when someone called, but I seem to recall something like that.

Drm is here to stay with some publishers. Stardock, makers of Sins of a Solar Empire has NO drm and it is a top selling game. DRM like that used with Valve's Steam is fine by me. Online activation is fine by me. Letting me sell a game when I am through is fine by me. Securom is fighting used game sales which should be legal. It is not fighting piracy just making folks only allowed to buy new. We can buy used cds of music. We can buy used books and clothing. We have the right to buy used games...that is not piracy. They sold the product..they got the money they are just greedy and want more. Not to mention you finish a game and it is now worthless. you as a gamer can recoup some of that over priced software by selling it but you can not do this with Securom if the activations are used up it will not work fo rsomeone else.

I do have a problem with this kind of drm just for this reason and will not support it.

Screw EA..keep your Sims and Madden titles..rehash of old crap over and over. Hurry to Stardock for having the guts to put a product out focused on quality and for the consumer instead of treating the consumer like a criminal.

EA and Ubisoft...no more money from me.

I don't really care... who is actually going to install the game 5 times... I mean really... 5 different computers... no body even builds a computer that often... and if they do they shouldn't be re-formatting that often anyway...

I don't care as long as it doesn't create instability issues or slow my machine down

I found this along the right hand column under news while I was skimming through some of your comments. I guess if I had read this first, this topic would not come as a surprise.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/u [...] ,6152.html

That's my plan. I don't care about DRM. So far it hasn't bothered me with Mass Effect, even though I've installed 5 times already. If I end up formatting again and get denied by SecuROM, I am just going to go get the crack or a No-CD key or a keygen.

I was so looking forward to Far Cry 2.

I am not buying it now because of SecROM and the 5 activation limit. I even checked out Steam and the Steam copy will also have the 5 activation limit. It's either a SecROM original, a pirated copy or not playing it at all. I just can't win.

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Blah ... yet another game I will not bother to buy or download for that matter. Besides with Fall Out 3 and Left 4 Dead coming out where will I have time to play much else, I already still play TF2/SINS and CoD IV .........


For the record if for any insane reason a PC Game Exec might be reading your hard core gamers are now in their late 20's early 30's. I and most of my buddies buy around 7 to 15 PC games each year.

Egosoft joined those ranks with X3: Terran Conflict, launching with a 5 install limit.

Which was sadly another game I was very much looking forward to, although Egosoft adopting the heavy handed DRM is not too surprising considering they were big advocates of Starforce.

After spending a while on the ubisoft site looking through the 30 pages of posts on the Far Cry 2 DRM topic that's exactly what I am planning to do if I buy this game.

Even if they give me 5 installs on 3 separate PCs (15 total ) plus being able to revoke those installs it sounds great but I think it just seems like too much of a hassle to make sure your games are uninstalled before you format or change hard drive. Just imagine if not just all game publishers and but other software companies decide to do this. You will have to uninstall every program and game before being able to reformat.

If they created a user login page where we can register the game key and manage our games plus have the right to transfer ownership I think that would be the way to go.

I think securom sucks but it doesn't seem like there's much we can do about it. Personally, I was REALLY concerned with the limited activation of 5 times for Far Cry 2. Here's a copy/paste statement from Ubisoft.

Quick Information:

- You have 5 activations on 3 separate PCs.

- Uninstalling the game "refunds" an activation (this process is called "revoke" ). As long as you complete a proper uninstall, you will be able to install the game an unlimited number of times on 3 different systems simultaneously.

- You can upgrade your computer as many times as you want (using our revoke system).

- Ubisoft is committed to the support of our games, and additional activations can be provided on a case-by-case basis.

- Ubisoft is committed to the long term support of our games: you'll always be able to play Far Cry 2!

My problem is that I really don't want to have to start uninstalling all my games everytime I want to upgrade or reformat. Talk about a giant pain. Unless everything that uses Securom has a bundled little program that will uninstall EVERYTHING using it, so I can click it once, and get all my refunds from all my games, rather than having to uninstall each one seperately.

First SecuROM fanboy?

I know that I am VERY "late to the party," here, but after reading most of the posts in this thread, I find myself feeling so frustrated and insulted, that I am on the verge of a stroke. It seems that the vast majority of you, especially ram1009 and even to a small extent, Dave, are missing the big picture here.

I agree with Dave that the limited activation thing is terrible. It is evil in my opinion, but what is also just as bad in my mind's eye, is the fact that the flipping software actually wreaks havoc on many user's machines, including mine! The program always without fail no matter what version, ultimately disables my DVD writer (and before it does that, it first scrambles my DVD watching abilities) and all of my external hard-drives. It treats every move I make on my OWN machine as though its the move of a pirate! I am NOT A PIRATE and my complaining about this malicious software does not make me one, ram1009! And the fact that I like to burn data DVDs and make personal music CDs from my legally purchased Mp3s does not make me a pirate! I should still have the right to do this after I install Spore or Far Cry 2, The Sims 2: Bon Voyage and all succeeding expansion packs, TES IV: Shivering Isles, NWN2, Dark Messiah, CSI, etc! Now please read this VERY carefully, ram1009. I am NOT a pirate making these complaints, because if I had pirated these games that I mentioned above, they would never have installed SecuROM on my PC! Please comprehend that, I beg you.

And if it is TRUE that a kernel in installed that spies on your every move on your PC and takes inventory of all of the files on your PC and then sends this info to "headquarters," this is an invasion of privacy! How can you, ram1009, and people like you, think this crap is OK??? And how can you be so insensitive to what others are going through just because your experience has been peaches and cream?? And don't tell me that "the class action suite should take care of this," because it will NOT take care of the other malicious things SecuROM does to thousands of machines across the continent and even globe.

I am so sick of the sheeple who help support this crud with their ignorant comments about how "it doesn't affect me" and "meh, its no big deal." It IS a big deal if your privacy is invaded, people! It IS a big deal if your entire PC is policed as though it isn't even really your PC! This is NOT OK, folks and we should not let vampires like EA Games and Ubisoft (and now apparently Bethesda Softworks, which breaks my heart) THINK its ok!

Please understand, ram, that the online activation and even the limited activations, which suck beyond belief and ARE horrible, are the very least of many paying customers' concerns! Its just one part of the overall problem!

With all due respect, pr2thej, I am not a dude.

Anyway, ram1009 is a poster who was acting like SecuROM's rah rah cheerleader a number of posts ago. You can see his delightful insights 1 page back , he was saying that everyone who complained on these boards about SecuROM must be a pirate. He wasn't grasping the fact that pirates are not affected by SecuROM at all, and that only those who legally purchase these games and install from the authentic disks are affected.

Ya know, pr2thej, while I have no plans to become a pirate myself, I find myself really starting to cheer for their team, the more and more EA Games, Ubisoft and others, screw me over with SecuROM and similar malware.

A clear sign that you're getting old... Forest a good footie team?? medieval times with the Sheriff of Nottingham?

I can name you a team that did it three years running: Ajax (71-73)

Real Madrid did it five years running (56-60).

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Liverpool dont count, for reasons i havent thought of just yet

Well, if they keep on screwing us over, some will switch... if only DRM could be as light as Steam.

GTA IV is the worst so far. You have to literally jump through hoops to install the game.

I checked on a known torrent site and there were more than 10 cracked versions available of the same title, and i bet they were easier to install.
When will they learn eh -_-