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On one hand why join a forum just to agree with pretty much everything on it.
On the other...flash games? WTF
Did I do something? Do you hate me? If you don't why are driving a hot poker through my eye? Flash games?
It's worse, they don't care about you or anyone else here.
I think everyone has already said it, but I need to do it as well.
Its sad to see that a quality site like Toms Games will turn into just another crap site with, omg, Flash games that will not deliver us anything we couldnt already get from all million++ sites already out there. This was the place to go for the differently written reviews(yes, thats meant in a good way) and the articles that mattered. The quality of the published stuff that excelled business moneyshrewd directors and instead put the material in written for the gamers BY the gamers. A rare quality that unfortunatly becomes even a rarer feature.
Ben, Rob and Travis, youre the best in this genre by far and I sincerely urge you to start up your own site/business and just continue doing what you have done these past years. You are simply astonishing and I would bet my sweet mommys *** that you will make it big, really big.
As for the new and "improved" Toms Games, well... Good luck, you will need it.
Ill leave a crawler attached to the site to search for what you will be up to guys. I hope it picks up something I like in a very very near future!
*now to delete a very memorable Favourite from my browser, *wet puppy eyes**
Merry x-mas! Cheers!
To Rob and Ben,
Since your employer's are idiots who are taking away the sole reason it's customers come to Tom's Games, (YOU guys, second take, and reviews) I encourage you to not take the path of least Resistance. Make your own web site. Is it really that hard? no. We won't care if it looks like **** at first, everyone here cares about the content you offer. It will be a risk but it will pay off. Your site will grow and you will prosper because you deliver in no BS. Second Take is the heart and voice of all us hardcore gamers. IT must not die.
To BestofMedia,
Toms Games is now irrelevant. You now will no longer have your current customers. And congratulation on taking a five star web site down to a idiot play pen.
azone123465@yahoo.com
Congratulations to the ignorants who made this decision. Now I can safely remove any toms links from my bookmarks and never visit the site again. I hope you fail in this site and fail in life. And I hope your children fail while you bare witness to it, leaving all hopes unfulfilled.
I really hope Rob Wright gets back into some type of online video review site/show again. As I truly enjoyed listening to his opinion on things. Rob, the best of luck to you. Ben, same goes to you. I can't imagine you'd be happy loading swf objects all day.
Thanks for the memories.......
This news plain f---ink sux. I mean my wife even liked the ST videos. I have been at Toms for many years. 11 years more like it. And this is the most stupid move the site has ever made.
I mean really kiddie porn flash games?? WTF!!!!!
Rob ,Ben , Travis, I really enjoyed you contributions to the site . I too eagerly anticipated wathcing the ST videos with Saturday morning coffee. Will really miss you guys.
Thanks
Rick
I've never posted to the forums here before, but I enjoyed Second Take so much that I'd be willing to make a donation to keep it going. Any way we can set up a PayPal link?
Nooooo.... plez stay...
I really wish this was just some sort of bad joke. I'll miss your videos and reviews, I always liked how honest the reviews were. I don't know where I'll go for gaming news now but it would be nice if someone started a new site thats everything Tom's was.
Good luck with your future endevors.
Just thought I add my response here from the other thread.....
WOW. Seriously like WTF WTF WTF I'm just absolutely floored.
Ever since best of media (or should I say worst) has taken over I've seen nothing but bad happen to Tom's and their sites.
The new video pieces are just aweful.
The site runs like garbage. (pages take long to load)
The news is often behind the times in comparison to other tech/gaming news sites.
There generally isn't enough news (I see more reporting on other sites)
Now this. Quite frankly the video's from Rob and Ben were about the only thing left that I looked forward to on Toms. At this point I don't really see a whole lot to come here for and I probably won't be back.
Rob and Ben, good luck to the both of you. I've thoroughly enjoyed your reviews. I hope that someone has the sense to snag you boys up and allow you guys to do what you do best.
Cheers
To the Dedicated Reader,
As far as I know, Tom's Hardware will now feature PC gaming news, and Tom's Guide will feature console gaming news. And as for reviews, Tuan is still working on a format that will fit within both sites (from what I am told). I know there are a few of us Tom's Games stragglers throwing up the gaming news when we can (Ryan, Devin, etc), but I think many of us were just as shocked as you about TG going Flash. However I have faith in Tuan, Marcus, Jane and the gang in their attempts to assimilate the TG remnants into Hardware / Guide; they are great, talented people and I just ask that you have a little patience as the whole transition falls into place.
I'm probably overstepping my boundaries by coming out and speaking on the matter, but I felt obligated to at least say something to you, the Dedicated Reader. I hear the complaints and the sorrows and I completely understand. I wish things were different, that TG enters a new year focused on the latest games with news, reviews, feature articles and those great videos from Rob and Ben. Bestofmedia is still approaching the new year with determination by offering you the latest news, features and reviews... just in a different manner.

Very disappointing news. I've only been visiting the Toms network for Second Take and the game reviews recently since TomsHardware seems to be declining in quality. Oh well, there there are other sites and I hope second take, etc moves to one of them (and that I can find it)
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wow, just wow
Flash games...so high tech...so innovative = retarded move by the boss guys. Go back to the way it was!!! or if you are Absolutely intent on covering flash games, have another section for it. Tom'sFlashGames...reviews would almost write themselves too. Let's see... WS or NWS, sucks hard or this one won't make you want to shoot yourself, yep those are the options AA AB BA BB - yeah those are lengthy.
BOOO to the "new direction"!!!
That's a weird move...
Whats the point of a "Toms Games" if no games will be reviewed? I see this as sucking up to the big game companies so you get more attention from them. Heaven forbid an honest game review that doesnt favor a game.. This is not a turn in the right direction...
I really can not believe it! This must be a joke surely. SECOND TAKE was awesome. I loved tuning in each week to Ben and Rob , for some wry humour and a wonderful knowledge and appreciation of gaming. You guys really must start your own website , you are really going to be sorely missed over here in England. Anyway thanks so much for all your hardwork and i wish you the very best for the future. Well Tom's , let us hope you are gonig to keep your other 'star' Chris Angelini' who is doing a terrific job over on hardware. PS.Rob/Ben , if you do carry on doing some video presentation in the future please let us know somehow on this site.Cheers
Well.....
I'm sorry to see you go Rob. I suppose that I'll be deleting my TH bookmark now....
| bf2142-rules-ok wrote : I really can not believe it! This must be a joke surely. SECOND TAKE was awesome. I loved tuning in each week to Ben and Rob , for some wry humour and a wonderful knowledge and appreciation of gaming. You guys really must start your own website , you are really going to be sorely missed over here in England. Anyway thanks so much for all your hardwork and i wish you the very best for the future. Well Tom's , let us hope you are gonig to keep your other 'star' Chris Angelini' who is doing a terrific job over on hardware. PS.Rob/Ben , if you do carry on doing some video presentation in the future please let us know somehow on this site.Cheers |
Thanks for all the kind words. If you're looking for ways to stay in touch, check out Travis' post on page 1 of this thread. If you're a PC gamer, and I hope you all are, feel free to join the Tom's Hardware Steam group. And as always, PM me any time.
More and more Toms slides into... mediocrity.
I used to check toms out every day,Then once or twice a week.Then once a week.Now.....sigh.
WTF Toms?......R.I.P
OMFG! I just linked to Toms Porn page.This is sad..smutt pedalers.
http://www.tomsgames.com/adult/
| lumpy wrote : More and more Toms slides into... mediocrity.
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Yeah, I hate that after Tom's Guides and now Tom's Games I'm no longer going to visit Tom's Hardware. Thank god for Anandtech and [H]. I just refuse to give bestofmedia (which btw only has Tom's... all of their other IP is 100% worthless) any add revenue at all.
The depressing thing is I know the precipitous for all the changes was money. Knowledgeable P.C. users who (used to) frequent Tom's are more likely to be using Firefox/Ad-Blocking Extensions... whereas the 12-year-old tweens who will be visiting the Tom's Adult Games pages are more likely to use I.E. More adds displayed = more revenue for bestofmedia and god knows that after all the changes they will need it.
Farewell Tom's (even hardware)... I will miss you dearly. - To bestofmedia - Your actions are reprehensible. I don't know if that word translates into french will all the negative connotations that it has in English, but I really hope it does. You S_U_C_K.
| lumpy wrote : More and more Toms slides into... mediocrity.
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| robwright wrote : Thanks for all the kind words. |
lol
Warning: Mini Rant
Lumpy, if you wanna go just do it! I've heard too much of this!
If this was constructive criticism, I'd let it go but simply say you suck and I'm never gonna come back to this site doesn't help.
If you wanna leave, just do. If you have something about how they can improve plez say it.
Mini Rant Over, you can come outta hiding.
I'm gonna hope that, due to popular demand Best of Media will reinstate Tom's Games!
Are you with me?
Nice mini rant, we can make a grumpy old woman out of you yet.
I think not.
That's what they all say my flame haired apprentice.
No Second Take...that was my main reason for coming to this site. I looked forward to the "real" game reviews and opinions.
THAT SUCKS!!!!!
As we used to say in the 60's ... "Ya sold out to the Man"!!!
You could have just told the truth, this isn't "a new direction"
It's a giant leap to the DARK SIDE. I recommend you stick
your heads in a toilet and flush... then repeat.
PS I won't be back.
Hopefully you'll reinstate Tom's Games. I'll always be here. I always am.
Go figure somebody breaks away from the joke that is currently running amuck on the internet and turns it into that same garbage for a quick buck. Way to sell out some actual gamers for the casual console crowd that draws in more unique hits. Oh well, I guess it was just too good to last and unfortuneatly the bozos that run the show figured it was a business and saw they could make more money by dumbing content down for the masses.
Won't be coming back here again. Best of luck rob, ben, and travis you guys weren't affraid to be real gamers first instead of pansy ass publisher run marketing monkeys especially Travis having enough balls to call out "exclusive" first domain reviews of hyped up game being released by everyone else on the net.
@ Rob Wright
Sorry buddy to see that some one has decided to give you the Christmas combo that you would never forget..
I do hope to see you around somewhere else on the web, as your reviews were actually spot on...
Im only saddend even further that Duke Nukem Forever will not here been given your reviewers touch that meant so much to us all on the gaming forum and site...
Good luck for the future and I am sure your fanbase will follow you around even if you reviewed PS3 games...
Amdfangirl.... s.t f.u
Have you herd too much of that?
Ill bet Your a male in your 50s..sick
and theres nothing to be positive about in this thread..We are pissed,get it?
| lumpy wrote : Amdfangirl.... s.t f.u
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And yet another clueless post buy a frustrated ( take that what ever way you like ) clueless poster...
Do your self a favour and us by playing pacman and loose some of that henious language against a young female teenager....
One single word sums you up....
T W A T
| amdfangirl wrote : lol
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You are dumb if you don`t get they have already have made decision and all you will get is crappy flash ****.
| strangestranger wrote : Did someone mention ass
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Im trying to work out if the whites are supposed to be on the outside or the inside...
| catbus1 wrote : umbing content down for the masses.
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# Wild West Coinfest - Creat a new vergon of the game ... president
# Wild West Coinfest - I want to play nomather what ! becaus... aymen
# Naruto Flash Battle - It is so fun to play... aymen
# Naruto Flash Battle - Why dose the game have problem and i... aymen
# Naruto Flash Battle - I want you to chang home back to msn username
# Battlefield - I thik starwars are cool Im 7... julian diaz
Yup.
Come on! If a company can sell its product it makes a different one. They make different stuff and etc.
We'll see what happens with the flash game review system. If nobody vists the site, they should change back.
Ten quid says the site doesnt last 6 months, anyone game?
Pfffffffffffffffffff.............
I hope you guys start your own web site soon.
Second Take was truly exceptional, especially 'cause you didn't put new episodes there just for sake of doing it.. Can't tell you how much I enjoyed it.
Wish you all best, no matter what you decide to do.
P.S.
Flash games? LOL
| pr2thej wrote : Ten quid says the site doesnt last 6 months, anyone game? |
Ill see your ten quid and raise you twenty!
Wow I can't believe this...
sad day. I really liked the reviews "second take".
It seems like all the pc gamers are now being shunned... most everything out there is more dedicated to console type stuff.
Also liked the controversial stuff about DRM, I wonder if this is where the heat is coming from or it's a money problem at Tom's.
sad to see you guys go.......
Good luck with everything guys, site won't be the same without yas
I'm upset and annoyed that my favorite online review program will be destroyed. I am disappointed in TOM'S GAMES for doing this to me and the many fans of Second Take. Best of luck to Rob, Ben and Travis. Hopefully you all can keep entertaining me some where else.
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I surely don`t hope that those "they are great, talented people" as you call them have anything to do with the new **** look of the site.
Oh well
*bump*
I was wondering what the hell happened to Tom's Games and to Rob/Ben/Travis/et. al. Much like others have said here I also enjoyed second take and your mature reviews. Reading the stuff you guys wrote made the other sites seem like bad Mountain Dew commercials for the game. Keep us posted on where you guys are off to next!
There was an email address that Rob was using to gather a mailing list....its around here somewhere....
robtravisben@gmail.com
Thanks for the email address. I, like many others, am certainly quite disappointed with what has become of Tom's Games most recently. It is most distressing to see these examples of bad decision-making on the part of the BestOfMedia executives.
Sad to see Rob and Ben's reviews leaving. I held their reviews in as much steed as zero punctuation's honest reviews.
I will have to find somewhere else for honest, strait up, impartial reviews.
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