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keith wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:27:36 +0000, The little lost angel wrote:
>> Hmm, hooker... five year old... daily use... not as an appliance...
>
> ...and just what do you have against Gen. Hooker? He was a fine
> general
> in the US Civil War. ...indeed he took rather good care of his
> troops!

And Bill Shatner was a fine Hooker too ... T.J. Hooker.

Yousuf Khan

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:03:37 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>
>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:27:36 +0000, The little lost angel wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:31:14 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>>
>>>Oh, my olderst hooker up? My five-year-old K6-III, which is still in
>>>daily use. ...and no not as an appliance. It's on the KVM and both
>>>systems are often doing something.
>>
>> Hmm, hooker... five year old... daily use... not as an appliance...
>
>...and just what do you have against Gen. Hooker? He was a fine general
>in the US Civil War. ...indeed he took rather good care of his troops!

Uhh... if you've still got Gen. Hooker still in daily use, then I
think you've DEFINITELY got problems!

>BTW, at one time I lived about a block from the intersections of Hooker
>Ave. (named after Gen.Hooker) and Cherry St. (named after the famous tree ;-).
>
>Ok, so I fat-fingered it again. I really gotta get rid of PAN (no speel
>checker).

Sadly Pan's development seems to have, umm... stalled to say the
least. It's too bad, because for a while it was getting new features
on a nearly daily basis, but now it's been nearly a year since the
last release. There was some work-in-progress for a spell checker (I
thought it was actually finished? though I haven't used PAN much in
the past 2 years or so).

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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:22:40 -0700, Mike Kirkland wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:52:27 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>
>
>>Since your'e new 'round these parts... You are correct. I have no use for
>>shoot-em-ups. My needs are more along the lines of business (technical,
>>actually) graphics, and multiple screens at reasonable resolution. The
>>bigger the desk the better. If I could add another three monitors to my
>>desktop, I would. Gmaes are for kidz.
>
> I'm not new around these parts.

You quire obviously *are*. ...unless you've gone by another moniker.

> If you think games are for just kids then I suggest you get out of the
> dinosaur age and back into the 21st Century.

Games *are* for kidz, of all ages, perhaps. Yes, my son makes his living
selling games to kidz like you.

--
Keith

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:51:17 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:


>You quire obviously *are*. ...unless you've gone by another moniker.

>Games *are* for kidz, of all ages, perhaps. Yes, my son makes his living
>selling games to kidz like you.

/ignore mode on

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:15 +0000, The little lost angel wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:03:37 -0400, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>
>>> Hmm, hooker... five year old... daily use... not as an appliance...
>>
>>...and just what do you have against Gen. Hooker? He was a fine general
>>in the US Civil War. ...indeed he took rather good care of his troops!
>
> I've got nothing against the general hooker really!!! And I'm sure
> those troops enjoyed Hooker's good care ;pPpP

Indeed! (BTW, that *is* where the word came from)

>>BTW, at one time I lived about a block from the intersections of Hooker
>>Ave. (named after Gen.Hooker) and Cherry St. (named after the famous tree ;-).
>>
>>Ok, so I fat-fingered it again. I really gotta get rid of PAN (no speel
>>checker).
>
> *laff* I dun think it would help in this case. Hooker is a valid word
> after all Pp

Sure, but it would have caught the word right in front of that one, ;-)

--
Keith

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:15:10 -0400, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@ezrs.com>
wrote:
>
>Tony Hill wrote:
>> As mentioned previously though, I'm sure it was just an issue with
>> interoperability between my hardware and that particular ATI driver,
>> but the exact issue will probably remain a mystery because the board
>> has since been moved to my new MythTV box (my current pet-project).
>> New video card and (perhaps more importantly) a new operating system,
>> so it's a bit too late for any further testing.
>
>I was thinking of going with a MythTV box a few months ago, but then I sort
>of got sidetracked and saw the DVR box that the cable company is offering.
>It can record a program, while you watch a second program simultaneously, or
>you can record two programs simultaneously.

You can do the same thing with MythTV, though it requires two TV
tuners. For the time being at least I've only got a single TV tuner
in my box.

I also saw what the cable company had to offer, and it's probably a
more economical option, though I detest giving any more money to
Rogers than I absolutely have to! :>

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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:03:38 -0400, Tony Hill wrote:

> Sadly Pan's development seems to have, umm... stalled to say the least.
> It's too bad, because for a while it was getting new features on a nearly
> daily basis, but now it's been nearly a year since the last release.
> There was some work-in-progress for a spell checker (I thought it was
> actually finished? though I haven't used PAN much in the past 2 years or
> so).

The Pan on my Debian Sid system here has a spell checker. Don't ask me how
to set it up though, it just came that way from Debian

Cheers
Anton

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:18:28 +0000, AJ wrote:

> If you can't intuitively or by experience see that dealing with one
> source is simpler than dealing with multiple sources, I'm not here to
> convince you. Have a ball. I like things simple with the best chance of
> things working together. For me, the fewer vendors/manufacturers (for
> something I consider a unit anyway) the better.

I think it's a non issue myself. How many incompatibility problems with
cpus have you heard of anyway? All chipset compatibility or driver issues
I've come across have been with the peripherals. Would you also demand
that all your peripherals come from the same vendor as the chipset?

Using a single vendor doesn't necessarily guarantee a lack of
compatibility issues, and prevents you picking "best of breed" (ick I hate
that term, but it seemed to fit) components.

eg if you wanted to build an Intel server a couple of years back, it
would've been pretty silly to rule out a Serverworks chipset because it
didn't come from Intel. The SCSI chipsets wouldn't have come from Intel
either.

It's not like you can't get very close to a single vendor solution with
AMD anyway. If you accept that cpus pretty much never have compatibility
issues, the nForce chipsets are as close to a single vendor solution I can
think of.

Cheers
Anton

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Tony Hill wrote:
> You can do the same thing with MythTV, though it requires two TV
> tuners. For the time being at least I've only got a single TV tuner
> in my box.
>
> I also saw what the cable company had to offer, and it's probably a
> more economical option, though I detest giving any more money to
> Rogers than I absolutely have to! :>

Can you input or output AVI files through the MythTV box?

Yousuf Khan

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> Hmm, I guess you omitted to engage brain.....AGAIN!

Actually, that would have been the first time - assuming you were right
which you ofcourse are not, your lack of comprehension is what we are
discussing here afterall.

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:20:40 -0500, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@ezrs.com>
wrote:
>
>Tony Hill wrote:
>> You can do the same thing with MythTV, though it requires two TV
>> tuners. For the time being at least I've only got a single TV tuner
>> in my box.
>>
>> I also saw what the cable company had to offer, and it's probably a
>> more economical option, though I detest giving any more money to
>> Rogers than I absolutely have to! :>
>
>Can you input or output AVI files through the MythTV box?

Yup, it can act as a front-end for Mplayer (or Xine?), which is
capable of playing pretty much every type of media file for which
there is a CODEC available (and it uses the exact same CODECs as
Windows/Windows Media Player). It's actually a small add-in called
MythVideo, and there really isn't much too it, pretty much just
launches an external media player.

As for the input side of things, by default it uses either RTjpeg or
MPEG-2 to encode files, but there is also a transcode option built in
that can output using just about any codec.

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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

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Tony Hill wrote:
> Yup, it can act as a front-end for Mplayer (or Xine?), which is
> capable of playing pretty much every type of media file for which
> there is a CODEC available (and it uses the exact same CODECs as
> Windows/Windows Media Player). It's actually a small add-in called
> MythVideo, and there really isn't much too it, pretty much just
> launches an external media player.

So you just download the Windows Codecs and they work right off the bat?

> As for the input side of things, by default it uses either RTjpeg or
> MPEG-2 to encode files, but there is also a transcode option built in
> that can output using just about any codec.

Okay, I assume that these two are the least CPU-intensive for real-time
encoding. But I guess it won't go straight to Mpeg-4 encoding will it?

Yousuf Khan

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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:48:25 -0500, "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@ezrs.com>
wrote:
>
>Tony Hill wrote:
>> Yup, it can act as a front-end for Mplayer (or Xine?), which is
>> capable of playing pretty much every type of media file for which
>> there is a CODEC available (and it uses the exact same CODECs as
>> Windows/Windows Media Player). It's actually a small add-in called
>> MythVideo, and there really isn't much too it, pretty much just
>> launches an external media player.
>
>So you just download the Windows Codecs and they work right off the bat?

In theory yes, though as usual, theory and practice aren't always the
same thing.

>> As for the input side of things, by default it uses either RTjpeg or
>> MPEG-2 to encode files, but there is also a transcode option built in
>> that can output using just about any codec.
>
>Okay, I assume that these two are the least CPU-intensive for real-time
>encoding. But I guess it won't go straight to Mpeg-4 encoding will it?

Actually I was a bit off on the above, it uses RTjpeg by default but
can also use MPEG4 for straight encoding. RTjpeg doesn't require much
CPU power, while MPEG4 requires a fair bit more.

Of course, all that depends on it actually getting a video signal from
your TV tuner, which unfortunately I have not quite been able to
manage yet :< I've got a signal in TVTime (a simple TV viewing
program), so I know that the tuner works, but some setting or another
in MythTV just doesn't seem quite right. I'm going to give it another
go this weekend, or possibly just switch over to KnoppMyth (a sort of
straight-from-the-box solution, just drop a CD in and let it copy an
image over to your hard drive) or some other distribution of Linux. I
had been using Mandrake, which got me the first 9/10th of the way
there quite well, but that last step has been quite a large one.
Perhaps Debian should have been my distribution of choice given that
this is what the main MythTV developer uses. Others seem to have had
good luck with Gentoo as well.

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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca