Last message on previous page: I'm not saying its fullproof or anything. You are right there is a lot of resistance to the price of the PS3. But lets face it, people will buy it. Kids will coax and whine and get their parents to buy it, and the parents wouldn't mind getting a Blu-ray DVD player out of the deal, so it would at the very least be a tempting offer.
Personaly, everyone that I knew had a PS2 used it to watch movies in also. It is a cost effective solution.
Regardless, PS3 will not enjoy the same numbers as they did with the PS2. Still, I read an article (I apologize for not having the link off hand) that says the company that does market research still shows Sony having market dominance over the compitition, though not nearly at the numbers they were last year.
Time will tell the tale, and HD-DVD has Microsoft backing it. That by itself has a major amount of clout in this format war. All I'm saying is not to count out Blu-Ray or the PS3 because of price.
First - it (BD) is not at this moment a BETTER offering. It still only outputs 1080i in its first incarnations (same as HD-DVD).
Second - The computer supportability is not as robust as the HD-DVD is supposed to be. (please notice the words I have used since these are not readily available at this time).
Third - The supposed magical way to increase capacity is called Triple Layer HD-DVD with support up to 45gb. Please see HERE!!
Everyone also knows that Analog outputs are NOT the way to go. This affects the Samsung BD player. HDMI with HDCP compliance is really the best quality input to your television. Given that 1080I is all that is currently supported the analog side will do well but not nearly as well as the HDMI input on a clean player.
The PS3 although with its support of HDMI (as it should since the xbox360 does not at this time) is NOT supporting the HDCP outputs for its HDMI. This will be a big gamble as the television industry is now full force into support of HDCP.
This is a good read to find out why HDCP is so important (like it or not, me I do not like it since handshakes can be difficult on longer run cables since the cable introduces latencies which can cause a timeout).
Everyone also knows that Analog outputs are NOT the way to go. This affects the Samsung BD player. HDMI with HDCP compliance is really the best quality input to your television. Given that 1080I is all that is currently supported the analog side will do well but not nearly as well as the HDMI input on a clean player.
The PS3 although with its support of HDMI (as it should since the xbox360 does not at this time) is NOT supporting the HDCP outputs for its HDMI. This will be a big gamble as the television industry is now full force into support of HDCP.
No way that's bias information from the company that produces HD-DVD, I don't get my information on Blu-ray from Sony, I go to an impartial source, and if you notice 3 layers of HD-DVD are still less than two layers of Blu-ray. So if blue ray decides to do the three layer thing it'll be even worse for the HD-DVD format. You know Blu-ray is better based on the facts so stop looking at it like you have an investment in it, or are your pockets being lined.
I sure hope that they eventually move to SATA. I know there's no technical advantage, but I prefer the smaller cables. I would have bought an SATA DVD-RW a month or so back, but Plextor was the only choice, and at more than $100.00, it just didn't make any sense.
Plextor has a blu-ray drive coming out soon too, but it's around a grand. I'm not terribly tempted. Aside from drive prices, media has to become reasonable before I'll bite. As I recall, I bit on DVD-R when drives were $200 and media was around 2 bucks, so at 700-1000, I think it'll be at least a year before I'm tempted.
My oh my I should run out and buy two... One for playback while using the other for recording.
Before picking up one of these you might want to check the DRM that comes with (both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray) the more you understand the better your experience will be.
My oh my I should run out and buy two... One for playback while using the other for recording.
Before picking up one of these you might want to check the DRM that comes with (both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray) the more you understand the better your experience will be.
You know the point of this argument was to find the truth about which one is better, and seeing that the one man who is really behind HD-DVD can't use impartial information and when solid information comes his way he's just tries to insult should be another indicator that the quality of the product sometime equals quality of the user.
Where was the insult? It was called humor... You should try it some time. I am not an advocate of either tech it just appears at THIS time that HD-DVD might be preferable.
Please look at my statements
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"Before picking up one of these you might want to check the DRM that comes with (both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray) the more you understand the better your experience will be."
I can see where I pushed one over the other there!!
fast, I think I have provided links explaining both techs, have I not?
We are talking about two competing formats that have both released exactly "1" player each. Of which the HD-DVD player bests the Blu-Ray.
Alright now some people are saying HD-DVD is getting close to Blu-ray's capacity with a possibility of adding a third layer. well here's a story that makes that seem almost pointless.
"One of his most exceptional inventions is AO-DVD technology. The "AO" in AO-DVD stands for "Articulated Optical,” a term that describes the tilted orientation of small reflective facets in the surface of data storage elements found on a DVD-like, plastic data storage disc. With typical DVD technology, a small, focused spot of laser light is reflected from the DVD disc's surface. In that area, roughly equivalent to the focused laser spot's size, one bit of data is stored. That area either reflects a lot of light or just a little light. Hence, there are two-levels (1 or 0) stored in that small location on the DVD disc.
With AO-DVD, however, a new enabling technology called “e-beam mastered gray-scale lithography” gives this same small area of the disc some predefined three-dimensional reflective topography. That way, not only can one control whether the spot reflects back or not (like DVD), but one can split the reflected laser beam back into multiple paths with each path having a unique positional and phase orientation, or state, relative to all the other reflective paths. By using an appropriate electronic detection scheme, one can encode thousands, if not millions, of different states in the same area used by a DVD to record just two states. Using this mechanism, future optical distribution discs such as the AO-DVD could potentially hold 50-100 times more information than today's DVDs at similarly low costs.
In recent years Iomega has reduced investment into new optical data storage technologies, thus, according to Thomas, AO-DVD is still in want of corporate support to bring it to market. It is an idea that is a bit ahead of its time."
Of *course* its legal, I need 250 backup copies for personal use in case I scratch the first one, and like any good backup solution I store these copies at offsite locations, such as my friends house!
I'm not picking a direction to jump until I know which way the heard is moving. I have too much invested in DVD right now to want to change soon anyway.
But I might get a PS3 eventually, and that would throw me in with Blueray. I don't care that much, I just don't want to get burned.
