RMClock uses CPU-specific performance counters to get CPU utilization.
The other utilities ask Windows.
Then it doesn't read them right because constant 25% load on one core would register as higher temperature of that core.
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Who the hell are you to tell me I am wrong?
He is Mr. Right this time and you are arrogant dumb asshole. According to you, Intel intentionally put the wrong instructions with the CPU. So you are smarter than the guys who designed the LGA775 socket, right? Give me a break! You probably got it right by accident.
As for me, I owned Pentium 520, 630, 930 and now Core 2 Duo E6300 and I put many computers together from parts for other people, got paid for that and received no complaints so you are clearly the last person on this fucked up planet to teach me or anyone else how to deal with LGA775 socket properly.
To answer all of your quetions, yes the CPU fan and case fans are spinning just fine, and I have the stock intel HSF. I used about a half of a grain of rice droplet for the AS.
Oh and just now, I turned on the PC and it started at 70c and now its working its way up to a steady 90c
Did you spread the AS5 on the cpu? or you left the drop on the die?
I put AS5 and spread the sucka on the die with my finger (rubber glove).
and i applied some to the SI-128 heatsink.
To answer all of your quetions, yes the CPU fan and case fans are spinning just fine, and I have the stock intel HSF. I used about a half of a grain of rice droplet for the AS.
Oh and just now, I turned on the PC and it started at 70c and now its working its way up to a steady 90c
Did you spread the AS5 on the cpu? or you left the drop on the die?
I put AS5 and spread the sucka on the die with my finger (rubber glove).
and i applied some to the SI-128 heatsink.
Yese actually, I spread the AS5 with a razor blade and the results have been maybe a couple degrees C.
Now, when I use PcProbe II, it shows idle temps at like 50. But when I use Core Temp (for conroes), it shows about 39-40.
I think that Core Temp may be almost correct to my real temps, but hopefully its off by a bit
Instruction are written by homo sapien. Homo sapien have different views and different ways of doing the same thing. Homo sapien make mistake too.
I have no idea, how would spreading the AS5 very thinly can result in air bubbles.
By pushing the AS5 down and twisting, you cannot see the gaps and air bubbles, you never know it is good.
The AS5 only use to fill the micrometer gap of both heatsink and heatspreader, gap that human eye cannot see. it should be as thin as possible and evenly spread for best result.
Heatspreader spread the heat around, so with no paste at the edge, would reduce and not improve the heat dissipation.
putting the paste in the middle of cpu and spread using heatsink force, sound like instruction for noobs. Kind of remind me of those china apple operator paste job. real pro spread it thin and even.
He is Mr. Right this time and you are arrogant dumb *******. According to you, Intel intentionally put the wrong instructions with the CPU. So you are smarter than the guys who designed the LGA775 socket, right? Give me a break! You probably got it right by accident.
As for me, I owned Pentium 520, 630, 930 and now Core 2 Duo E6300 and I put many computers together from parts for other people, got paid for that and received no complaints so you are clearly the last person on this ****** up planet to teach me or anyone else how to deal with LGA775 socket properly.
Where did I say that Intel intentionally put wrong instructions? "Got it right by accident"? You are so presumptious - don't make so many assumptions, you know nothing about me. I probably snapped and used too strong language because I was upset by his antagonistic tone. Yes, I read the instructions but I installed this way having tried the official way many times and had trouble with it so I am sharing my experience here trying to help to the poster. I have no intention whatsoever of teaching you, the high and mighty professional Intel master, how to do anything. I have mainly built AMD systems in the past and this is indeed my first Intel compared to you who gets "paid for that and received no complaints". But I don't want to hijack this thread, good luck to Kronicide, I hope your system works out.
Your MB temps are about 9-10 degrees above mine. My board (same as yours) is posting 31-37 depending on the load. Averages 33 or so.
Asus has bench techs available via phone, but most are not up to speed Conroe wise yet, if my 3 calls were any indication.
After the bios update, both core and MB temps were down by more than 10 degrees each.
One other question, I am assuming you loaded all the drivers from the cd?
I have not called any company yet, basically because my CPU temps are about 37-39 according to Core Temp, and that should be normal with the stock HSF.
But if anyone thinks any damage could have been done because of the previous readings, please tell me.
And yes, I installed all the driver from the CD.
Personally I wouldn't worry about it. The newer chips are designed to protect themselves from overheating, and shut down the system when they get to a thermal point.
Sorry for the mis-info on the temps. I read it here on another thread from someone that owns one. All I can say is its sounds like these other guys are pointing you in the right direction. And other than my point on water cooling I think they are better helping you. I had a thermal issuse on the D805 and its very critical that the HSF is properly mounted. The stock intel HSF has these cheap 4 plastic posts and an arrow that curves and points to the heatsink. This threw me off and I later realized that the arrow is to release the holdown, not lock it in. When properly installed the heatsink should be on very solid. I also removed the gray intel paste and used some of the good old artic silver 1 stlye compound that has 99% pure silver and isnt like this artic 5 pasty crap. It worked well for me.
Once again Im sorry for any mis-info. And if you can afford it, start looking at a water system. Theres some really neat stuff out there like on Danger Den. com and Thermaltake. I wish you luck on your system.
To answer all of your quetions, yes the CPU fan and case fans are spinning just fine, and I have the stock intel HSF. I used about a half of a grain of rice droplet for the AS.
Oh and just now, I turned on the PC and it started at 70c and now its working its way up to a steady 90c
Sorry for the mis-info on the temps. I read it here on another thread from someone that owns one. All I can say is its sounds like these other guys are pointing you in the right direction. And other than my point on water cooling I think they are better helping you. I had a thermal issuse on the D805 and its very critical that the HSF is properly mounted. The stock intel HSF has these cheap 4 plastic posts and an arrow that curves and points to the heatsink. This threw me off and I later realized that the arrow is to release the holdown, not lock it in. When properly installed the heatsink should be on very solid. I also removed the gray intel paste and used some of the good old artic silver 1 stlye compound that has 99% pure silver and isnt like this artic 5 pasty crap. It worked well for me.
Once again Im sorry for any mis-info. And if you can afford it, start looking at a water system. Theres some really neat stuff out there like on Danger Den. com and Thermaltake. I wish you luck on your system.
Thanks Hydro.
I will be keeping the CPU, as I really doubt any type of damage was done, basically because the temp readings were way off.
I will be recieving my Zalman tommorow, and it should be smooth sailing.
I thank all of you who helped me, and thanks to Tomshardware for such a great site
Your MB temps are about 9-10 degrees above mine. My board (same as yours) is posting 31-37 depending on the load. Averages 33 or so.
Asus has bench techs available via phone, but most are not up to speed Conroe wise yet, if my 3 calls were any indication.
After the bios update, both core and MB temps were down by more than 10 degrees each.
One other question, I am assuming you loaded all the drivers from the cd?
I have not called any company yet, basically because my CPU temps are about 37-39 according to Core Temp, and that should be normal with the stock HSF.
But if anyone thinks any damage could have been done because of the previous readings, please tell me.
And yes, I installed all the driver from the CD.
After reading what everyone else has said, my next question would be what other progs are you running. PC probe is kind of junky, but its core temp readings have matched what my BIOS has said.
E6600 on P5wDH
Idle
23.5'C in open air
26'C open case
28'C closed case
medium Load
----open air
29'C open case
31'C closed case
I havent loaded it heavily, but based on what Ive seen so far, I dont expect the CPU temps to exceed 40'c in a closed case
Mobo temps running between 41'C -50'C
Note: when running CPUID, Ive had PC Probe report (falsly) core temps up to 238'C, so it makes me wonder if you have some other monitering programs running that may be interfering with PCProbe
Well all I can say at this point is that we are the lucky ones who get to witness with absolut amazment just how fast CPU capabilities are growing! Intel is smoking AMD like I used to smoke pot in high school! Take this article for example http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] page5.html DUDE LOOK AT THE CPU BENCH RESULTS! 300,000it's !!!!!!!
This is just the beginning of a new horizon in computing that will leave all our old systems (last years) in the dust. But really how fast do we need to go? Faster is always better! PCs , cars, bikes, boats , etc. All with the exception of sex. Somethings are better enjoyed nice and slowly! haha
Man! A Quad core blowing the doors off everything we've ever seen! And that is why my next mobo purchase will be high quality and quad core ready! My sights are on the new Abit AW9D-MAX. Like I said before Ill push the crap out that little D805 to see just how far you can go. Then later Ill move to a quad core and do the same to it. Ive watched the evolution of PCs since the old 486 to present. Im a big believer in water cooling and even refrigerating the water as I did 2 years ago. At that time I got my 3.2 northwood to 3.87 stable and peaked at 3.92. But with these new cores Im wondering how far past 4 gig I can go and if I can pull a magical 5gig without all out phase change refridgeration. Common folks this is something thats gonna be used everyday and sit in my bedroom, not on a bench in the garage for a 5 minute benchmark. Im working on a car deal that will net me the cash that will allow me to play this out. Oh no I feel that Mad Scientist Frenzy feeling comming on again. Where's my pills and a beer to calm me down until I get that cash ?aaaaaahhhhh
@turpit:
There is no way you have 23.5°C in open air while mainboard is between 41-50°C. Readings are wrong. Use Core Temp or latest Everest because they read temperature directly from the core digital thermometer, and not from some crappy sensor chip.
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This threw me off and I later realized that the arrow is to release the holdown, not lock it in.
Quoted for truth and for octop8 to read until it sinks in.
Googled this thread today and have just read the 5 pages over, and wanted to toss my 2 cents out.
I was having the exact same problem as Krono, that is, my E6600 was idling at high temps. Asus Probe and my mobo's (Asus P5W-DH) BIOS showed temps of about 50 C at idle, jumping up to as much as 60 C when running Prime95. CoreTemp showed temps of around 70 at idle and 80 when running Prime95.
I had reinstalled the stock HSF twice with minimal success and decided to try it one last time. This time, however, I took out the HSF and examined how the latch mechanism worked. To verify what some others said, you simply turn the locks CW all the way to reset them. Pushing them straight down then causes them to lock themselves. I verified this easily by locking one of them manually outside of the case.
After the third and successful HSF installation attempt, my reported temps dropped drastically. Asus Probe and my BIOS now reports 30 C - 31 C at idle and 37 C to 38 C when running Prime95 and Core Temp reports 44 C idle / 50 C for Prime 95.
Oops... I forgot to include that Everest reported the same temps as Asus Probe for everything above. I want to think that the Bios, Asus Probe and Everest are closer to the true values (although Core Temp is supposedly very accurate).
This goes to show that HSF installation has a <b> drastic </b> influence on the CPU temp.
Man, you got your stock Intel krappy cooler INSTALLED WRONG!!
I have done it before with those garbage heatsinks. Go back and make sure the heatrsink and fan are very snug and locked in full. I mean the white clamps needs to be pushed very hard and snug into the motherboard.
Your chip is not running at 80c or it wold of auto shut down. And to the morons who say conroe runs hot >> LOL!!
Ya my 6700 QPGA ES/QS running over 3600 on the stock piece of krap intel stock cooler from a 840ee package is about 52 idle, and 60 load, and that is just to test. with the TT Big Typoon it is 35 idle and 52 load.
I have had it over 4000 before, but 3.8 solid on air. Clocks better than the B2 steppings by far. I have seen people on phase change bring this one up around 5000, but only the B1 QPGA ES/QS..