DFI ICFX3200 (RD600) T2R/G Information - Page 3

I don't even own any PS/2 mice or keyboards. I have 2 mice ($10 crap optical, and razer diamondback) and 2 keyboards ($8 crap, and saitek) and all are USB. I can't even remember the last time I used a PS/2 mouse. Even the crappy outdated P3 system I use occasionally at work uses a USB mouse/keyboard. You could get a new USB mouse and keyboard for less than $30 and they will both be better than almost any PS/2 mouse/keyboard.

Laser may be the way of the future, but I love my Diamondback and having also used laser mice, I still prefer it. Of course this was more for the ergonomics, build quality, and the best 2 main buttons of any mouse. I really couldn't feel any difference in the movement precision compared to the laser mouse. Then again, I am not a hardcore gamer or anything.

I can tell a huge difference. The only problem with laser is...nothing. I can use it on any surface, unlike optical. The tracking is just superior. Laser is also faster than optical, and it doesn't put off that annoying red glow.

I'm running Nvidia nTune for 12 hrs on that mobo I just put the new NB heatsink on, and it set my CMX10243200C2 memory at tRAS-10, tRCD-5, and tRP. Eww. This memory can run at 2-3-3-6 I believe. Naturally the bios sets it to run at 4-4-4-8 or something. I thought nTune was supposed to improve performance? :-( Problem is I can't adjust my DIMM voltage to 2.7+ on that mobo. Knew I should've bought value ram. Oh well, we'll see if it changes it in the next 8 hrs.

Mouse design is an important element. It goes without saying that a cheap mouse is a cheap mouse, regardless of which light-tracking tech it uses. Laser mice aren't much more, and do provide more accurate movement tracking compared to optical mice like you acknowledged. I have a Logitech cordless optical mouse, and the G7 cordless laser mouse. I also have PS/2 mice and 2 Razer Copperhead corded laser mice. Needless to say I prefer the corded laser mice over all. It comes down to "laser beats all" for me. I just had to find one that fit my hand/likes and my color scheme...although the color scheme was far less important. My blue lit Copperhead matches my Kandalf case and my G15 keyboard perfectly though. The G7 is ok, but a bit heavy and I didn't like the button placement on the sides. Not to mention I was changing batteries about once a day or more. Just not good for serious gamers, although the wireless side of it worked great. The G5 is the same mouse, but corded. In place of the battery pack it uses swappable weight packs so you can fit it to your desired weight. If you're interested in buying a new mouse, I'd recommend taking a good look at the Habu, made by M$. It uses Razer's drivers and looks like it should have a fantastic feel.

In general, to me lightweight = better, just don't buy something cheap.

I agree with you on all points. The feel of a mouse in your hand is the most important. And for me, if I want a mouse to use for even light gaming, I can not use a cordless mouse. They are vastly inferior in terms of performance. They are also heavier, which is not good for gaming.

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I hate mice, I use a Logitech coredless trackman wheel (An optical thumb operated trackball).

Far nicer to use than any mouse I have ever tried, I'm actually on my 2nd one now, my last died recently after 5 years of hard use

But then I'm not an FPS gamer, I never have really enjoyed them, so I dont get all excited about 10,000,000 DPI mice....

sad how people are talking about mice. It just comes to show you that dfi better release rd600 soon or we'll be talking about shoes ( inside joke ninja, dario)

I actually don't like the buttons on the side of my Diamondback. The left side, thumb buttons are fine, but the ones on the right are too hard to use. My pinky is just not dexterous enough to operate them effectively (maybe one of them, but not both). In my book they are generally just the thumb buttons for lefties.

And why would you need power tools 8O

I will build mine, too I suggest we setup a video conference see who the real masta 8)

Yeah when I assembled computer, I couldn't live without my electrical screw driver, especially for those Antec rails for Hd/optical and so on.

I personally think that they could do without the onboard sound outputs. I have never used onboard sound always got a dedicaded sound card and IMO a sound card will most always give you better sound unless you get a really cheap crappy one. Besides isnt having a dedicaded sound card suppost to also help your fps in games by offloading work from your cpu.

I never had a single sound card since they integrated it on the motherboard. My ear is really not that good and I feel that anything surround is really good enough. The 3% of cpu is now pretty much irrelevant with dual core IMO.

So it's great for me I save ~70$ of the X-Fi and for you, just diable in the BIOS everyone is happy =).

Heck even a integrated video could be nice, backup if anything happen to you dedicated card, I wouldn't pay extra though and I sure as hell wouldn't give up performance for it!

Cool was actually wondering if there was a perf. hit/difference between the P/G/Q965

*Shameless plug warning*

Have you checked the Upcoming Thermal Compound Review the guys at DaClan are planning!?

Thank you.
To everybody: Any news about RD600?? (And exclusively it)

Maximum PC has done this before, given it will likely not contain as many candidates as that test, but the gist of the results were: Arctic Silver 5 gets you about 1-2c, generic thermal paste isn't much worse, and for some reason the Frozencpu.com stuff sucked royally, going a good 5-6c higher than AS5.

This is what I remember off the top of my head so don't take that gospel (not that you should ever take anything on these forums as gospel).

I have a 7900GTX and I run 16x12 native and every runs fine. Ok I don't play Oblivion, but I honestly don't see the need for SLI/XFire at that res. I have had SLI in the past.... it was nice, but not worth that cost at all, imo.

Outdoors at 16x12, the 8800GTX hit an avg fps of ~35, very respectable for a RPG game. Indoors it bats over 100 fps. If you still want SLI/Xfire that's your business, just trying to save ya some money.

Release date announced - December 15.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5127

Just thought I would share.

I will be placing my order on Dec 15th.... it is my graduation present to myself. 16th I get to graduate.... but the 15th will be a better day, come on RD600 vs. Long speeches about life, that is a no brainer.

Thanks for the release info.

Anyone want to start an OC'ing competition.... oh wait first I have to be able to afford a proc + ram. 8O

Agreed. That doesn't mean its not fun toying with a buggy board for hours on end only to find out the problem is in the BIOS code itself.

When do NDA's typically expire?

1. When the product is officially released (which is what I'm guessing).

2. Or do they sometimes expire a week or so before the actual release date to build up "hype", etc to increase initial sales (vs ppl waiting for eventual reviews after release)?

I guess what I'm saying is that I've chewed my nails down and developed a nervous tick waiting to see if RD600 is worth investing in, or should I stick with P965, lol. (Frankly unimpressed with 680i).

Just in case, I guess I better start looking for an alternate case that compliments the DFI board. (My current choice is black with blue led accents. I'm not a big fan of led lights, but they come with. If I have to, gotta find some orange leds...)

Especially if you get the right mobo. From what I understand the limiting factor is the voltage to the NB (at least with the BadAxe), which is why you have to hard mod the board to up the voltage. However, Abit lets you run up to 2.0v.

Well, the 975X FSB doesn't go as high as the P965, but me tests show it performs better, and it has full Crossfire support. It's even one of the chipsets that reportedly works with hacked drivers to allow SLi mode.