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I don't believe you...

Aside from you?

There are "agnostic groups" out there..... Google shows them quite well if you Google it...

Mmmm so we didn't tell you what exactly happened to Piddy at the time? Just check with PF, as you can see it's no longer a matter of faith for him.

Your interpretation of English should have you declared legally incompetent. Checks need to be put in place to prevent you lot breeding.[/Charles Davenport]

Prove it Phuk.....

Mother Teresa was a virgin. I'm sure Wingy is beside himself with excitement.

Rise, you shoul dknow that in civil court, if you can prove that you have had residence with someone for more than, I believe it is 7 years, that you can pretty much be considered to be a couple by most legal standards.

There are loopholes and other intricacies, but I believe the first people to take issue with it are the IRS, who do not like people getting tax breaks for "living together" for 20 years with 3 kids, etc etc....

The rule still applies. You should not need a civil union certification to get married or vice versa.

One is a union under law, the other under "God". One pays the taxes, the other pays the maker at the pearly gates. We should really avoid ANY association of religion with any legal rights not directly pertaining to the people themselves and any interference with their right to worship who they want, how they want, provided it does not hurt anyone in the process. (Koresh? Kool Aid?).

Anyway, most of what you are saying still brings them together in one way or another. I still say seperate them so that each can make up whatever rules THEY want for them without forcing the rest of us to follow suit.

I too am misunderstanding you, i thought the couple made the marriage.

Gay men can legally be married in America, just not to each other.

Besides, what's so special about being gay that they should get out of having to marry and live with a woman?

Believe me, there are days when that would be preferable.

Sex with the same woman day after day isn't all that bad....


Well, week after week....


Well, once or twice a month anyway...


...*cries*...

I would say, it's actually quite nice.

The "different women" can be quite exciting.....


BTW, I am not saying that there are or are not civil ceremonies, or that some states do one thing and others do something different.

All I am saying is how it SHOULD be, not how it currently is. How it is now, the church still dominates the whole institution of Marriage. You do not NEED to the church to GET married, but they are the defining hand in its legal context.

We need to seprate the two completely so that Marriage and Civil Union do NOT mean the same thing. One woul dbe purely legislational/legal, the other would be a religious definition held only by the church.

The hard line evangelicals would not like this because they would have no say in other people's lives. The Gay Activists (or other radical revisionists) would not like it because they would not be able to force the church to follow their beliefs.

Humans are like that. It isn't good enough that you get what you want for your own life, everyone else has to agree with it and do the same.

pheh.

I hope you two don't mind if I disagree, not that I actually care.
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