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Steve_long wrote :

"Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide"

Huh? To someone with a degree in Physics?

I finished Uni and came out with an Electronics Eng. This "Guide" as you put it....wow!! what typical Overclocker will get to grips with all of this jargon?!

We dont mind being educated....but some of these "guides" were written by people with no teaching or writting skills whatsoever.


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I agree 100%

I think most of the people saying "great guide" are just trying to sound smart. This is rubbish, Everest is WAY better than speedfan.

I mean how in the world am I supposed to calibrate this.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2687/speedfansuxjq6.th.jpg

I will continue to completely ignore Speedfan and stick with CoreTemp.

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lucindian wrote :

I agree 100%

I think most of the people saying "great guide" are just trying to sound smart. This is rubbish, Everest is WAY better than speedfan.

I mean how in the world am I supposed to calibrate this.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329 [...] jq6.th.jpg

I will continue to completely ignore Speedfan and stick with CoreTemp.


Start by removing most of those readings... :heink:


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randomizer wrote :

Start by removing most of those readings... :heink:


Agreed. Sorry but I had to post :D. I hate it when ppl talk about FUD an BS without knowing any thing and not taking the initiative to read.


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Thank you so much for this wonderful guide.

I have a question.

I'm using Q6700.

However, in this guide the delta for Q6xxx is only about 5°C!
My delta between TJ and TC is about 10-13!

Using stock cooler, my whole thing q67@3,2 1.3 volt.

Only prime pushes the baby further than 70. Usually in heavy renders hitting max 69.

And an interpretation problem,

the hotscale says "75" does that mean UNTIL 75 it is hot? Or does it mean with 75 it begins to fall into category HOT?

Thank you in advance.

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There's one more thing I have to add.

I was using SMARTFAN ( automatic fancontrol ) on automatic, using pwm+volt for regulation.

Funnily, my CPU was at 66°C TJ and Smartfan didn't think it was time to fasten the CPU Fan.

So I think 66°C TJ is normal for Smartfan, or my TJ's are a bit too high.
As I said Q6700, delta 10-13 (can't say how it's in IDLE because the TJs varie so much there)

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Ok I need major help, I'm trying to use this guide to get Speed Fan to properly read my temperatures, because nothing else will give me true temps. First of all, this is what I have when running Prime95:

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and this is Speed fan at idle (along with config settings):

http://i30.tinypic.com/1zge002.jpg

Now this is really confusing me because it seems that Temp2 would be the Tcase because it was the only temperature that had major change after going from idle to load, BUT thats not possible because its the lowest temperature (aside from the -2C which is obviously wrong), and lowest temp always must be the ambient, which seems right because 22C is like 70F and I have current room temperature of about 68F.

Looking at idle to load temp differences for each sensor:

Temp1: 0
Temp2: 12c
Temp3: 0
HD0: 0
HD1: 0
Core 0: 8c
Core 1: 11c
Core: 0
Ambient: 1c

The only other change was the 1c from the Ambient sensor, but Speedfan says that is using Nvidia chip so that can't be the Tcase temp either!! Ugh someone help me please.

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Idle/Load
Tcase: 9c/31c
Tjunction: 6c/15c
Case Ambient: 20c
Chipset: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600(SLACR/G0)
C2Q/C2D: C2Q
Cpu Cooler: Swiftech Apogee GT Waterblock
Coolant: Feser One Non Conductive Cooling Fluid
Coolant Temp: 5c-15c (depending on how hot cpu gets)
Frequency: 380 (x9) - 3.4ghz(load) 2.3ghz(Idle - Speedstep)
Load: Prime95
Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro
Stepping: G0
Vcore: 1.20 Idle - 1.30 Load
Cpu-Z and Hmonitor used to determine readings

I have reached higher speeds but Feel 3.4ghz is adequately high enough but completely stable w/o having to worry about issues involving the components itself (bios settings) and focus on cooling. I can lower the temperature even more but wish to hold out until I get some more feedback (online and in person) before I continue.

As you probably guessed. MY Tjunction is lower than my Tcase...
"* Tjunction is always higher than Tcase. * Tcase is always higher than Ambient." - In my case this statement is WRONG

I do not use a regular watercooling setup w/ pump and aircooled radiator.
I currently use a different type of method to cool the coolant(Feser One Non Conductive Cooling Fluid) which I wish to not yet reveal as this is in its testing phases and I wish to hopefully build kits or custom build in the future for Computer Enthusiasts/HC OC'ers. (Sorry but won't show any pictures)

My question is basically why is my Tcase higher than my Tjunction?
I know it has to do with the non-typical cooling and low temps but I want to get other opinions who might know the abnormal temp differences in my situation.

Thank you.

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Could someone make a simplified version of this? It's like a different language :o

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The problem with simplifying is that you lose the details that make it accurate. Like the post above yours (which will soon end up below my post) says, ask questions in a new thread. If you don't understand something, ask, but don't ask in this thread.


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Comp, mate, why was it deleted? :(


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CompuTronix wrote :

The Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide has been deleted.

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What were you thinking CompuTronix?

If it was because of the whiners saying it's far too complicated tell them to use CoreTemp and that's that.

Please, repost it or at least provide a link to a backupcopy (I really hope you made one) for the ones that found it useful.

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randomizer wrote :

Comp, mate, why was it deleted? :(


Yeah, why did you delete it Comp? You also deleted it from Ananda and every where else prety much, even the Google Cache didn't have it.

 

PS: Let me guess the new Forum:
Is it: Xtreme CPU

 

Edit:
Hmm... Interesting, Tom's won't let me link it to that website.


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I come back just to find that the great temp guide I have counted on many times in the past is gone? :(

What ever reason that you may hold, it must be a real good one. I'll keep an eye out for the guide.


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Steve_long wrote :

"Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide"

Huh? To someone with a degree in Physics?

I finished Uni and came out with an Electronics Eng. This "Guide" as you put it....wow!! what typical Overclocker will get to grips with all of this jargon?!

We dont mind being educated....but some of these "guides" were written by people with no teaching or writting skills whatsoever.


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Hey clown, if you can't understand, then sorry. By the way, when you are slamming someone for writing skills you might want to avail yourself of the spell checker. In case you never learned, the words that are misspelled are underlined in red. It's not "writting" it's "writing". and it's not "dont" it's "don't". Maybe your uni...versity spoon fed you the information so that someone with an 8th grade education could understand it, but this is the real world, you need to do some work. As far as jargon, use a dictionary. I assume you are familiar with a dictionary. You did use one in the "Uni", or didn't you need one? It would have been a good exercise for you to use the guide, but alas it's gone. A degree in electrical engineering and you had problems with this guide, what are you going to do when you get a job?



I will say that I'm a little pissed right now, and I suspect that you are not the cause of Comp leaving.

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Zorg wrote :

I will say that I'm a little pissed right now, and I suspect that you are not the cause of Comp leaving.


Not the only one, no.


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Comp, sorry to lose you.

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He actually has a whole list of reasons. But I'll let him disclose those reasons himself if he wants to since that's not my business to make public.


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OK.

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@CompuTronix
Your guide was a great reference. It makes me sad that you thought you needed to delete it. Whatever your reasons be, I hope they were worth it. I also hope you will provide us with at least a link for future reference. Like Zorg said your insight and contributions will be missed. Good luck to you.

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@Zorg
I have yet to finish my university degree in computer science (I'm a slow learner of useless university stuff like economics and theoretical computer science). All this guide needed from any person was basic computer/electronics knowledge and the ability to use google.

Sadly Bart Simpson didn't write the sentance "I WILL USE GOOGLE BEFORE ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS!" in big enough letters.

The next person who writes a guide should make two versions. One for people who can read plain text and one for the other lower species:

The second version should be an animated .gif from screenshots with Prime95 running and CoreTemp showing ~65C and blinking the word "BAD" in giant red letters next to the temperature readouts.

The appendix chapter should be another .gif animation on how to enable RoundOffChecking in Prime95 for those who never read guides.

And to the person who asked how to calibrate SpeedFan try reading the help file. That's why it's called "help". :heink:


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