Sticky: Core i7 and Core 2 Temperature Guide - Page 3

Agreed. Sorry but I had to post . I hate it when ppl talk about FUD an BS without knowing any thing and not taking the initiative to read.

There's one more thing I have to add.

I was using SMARTFAN ( automatic fancontrol ) on automatic, using pwm+volt for regulation.

Funnily, my CPU was at 66°C TJ and Smartfan didn't think it was time to fasten the CPU Fan.

So I think 66°C TJ is normal for Smartfan, or my TJ's are a bit too high.
As I said Q6700, delta 10-13 (can't say how it's in IDLE because the TJs varie so much there)

Idle/Load
Tcase: 9c/31c
Tjunction: 6c/15c
Case Ambient: 20c
Chipset: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600(SLACR/G0)
C2Q/C2D: C2Q
Cpu Cooler: Swiftech Apogee GT Waterblock
Coolant: Feser One Non Conductive Cooling Fluid
Coolant Temp: 5c-15c (depending on how hot cpu gets)
Frequency: 380 (x9) - 3.4ghz(load) 2.3ghz(Idle - Speedstep)
Load: Prime95
Motherboard: Abit IP35-Pro
Stepping: G0
Vcore: 1.20 Idle - 1.30 Load
Cpu-Z and Hmonitor used to determine readings

I have reached higher speeds but Feel 3.4ghz is adequately high enough but completely stable w/o having to worry about issues involving the components itself (bios settings) and focus on cooling. I can lower the temperature even more but wish to hold out until I get some more feedback (online and in person) before I continue.

As you probably guessed. MY Tjunction is lower than my Tcase...
"* Tjunction is always higher than Tcase. * Tcase is always higher than Ambient." - In my case this statement is WRONG

I do not use a regular watercooling setup w/ pump and aircooled radiator.
I currently use a different type of method to cool the coolant(Feser One Non Conductive Cooling Fluid) which I wish to not yet reveal as this is in its testing phases and I wish to hopefully build kits or custom build in the future for Computer Enthusiasts/HC OC'ers. (Sorry but won't show any pictures)

My question is basically why is my Tcase higher than my Tjunction?
I know it has to do with the non-typical cooling and low temps but I want to get other opinions who might know the abnormal temp differences in my situation.

Thank you.

The problem with simplifying is that you lose the details that make it accurate. Like the post above yours (which will soon end up below my post) says, ask questions in a new thread. If you don't understand something, ask, but don't ask in this thread.

What were you thinking CompuTronix?

If it was because of the whiners saying it's far too complicated tell them to use CoreTemp and that's that.

Please, repost it or at least provide a link to a backupcopy (I really hope you made one) for the ones that found it useful.

I come back just to find that the great temp guide I have counted on many times in the past is gone?

What ever reason that you may hold, it must be a real good one. I'll keep an eye out for the guide.

Not the only one, no.

He actually has a whole list of reasons. But I'll let him disclose those reasons himself if he wants to since that's not my business to make public.

@CompuTronix
Your guide was a great reference. It makes me sad that you thought you needed to delete it. Whatever your reasons be, I hope they were worth it. I also hope you will provide us with at least a link for future reference. Like Zorg said your insight and contributions will be missed. Good luck to you.

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@Zorg
I have yet to finish my university degree in computer science (I'm a slow learner of useless university stuff like economics and theoretical computer science). All this guide needed from any person was basic computer/electronics knowledge and the ability to use google.

Sadly Bart Simpson didn't write the sentance "I WILL USE GOOGLE BEFORE ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS!" in big enough letters.

The next person who writes a guide should make two versions. One for people who can read plain text and one for the other lower species:

The second version should be an animated .gif from screenshots with Prime95 running and CoreTemp showing ~65C and blinking the word "BAD" in giant red letters next to the temperature readouts.

The appendix chapter should be another .gif animation on how to enable RoundOffChecking in Prime95 for those who never read guides.

And to the person who asked how to calibrate SpeedFan try reading the help file. That's why it's called "help".

+1. He PMed me that list too.

I wish all the reply notifications I get for this thread were actually referring to real replies. There should be at least two more posts from Shadow here according to what I'm being "notified" about.

EDIT: Oh yea, and Comp should have around 15 more posts in a row here

I had this booked marked to come back to after priming up on a couple other topics...

Thank you for reposting/updating the guide!

Outstanding work, CompuTronix. After lurking this board for quite some time, I had to sign up and tell you that your work has saved me from having an "Office Space" hardware smashing party with my PC.

The guide is concise, relevant, and the referenced software toolsets quickly allowed me to make my Q6600 B3/P5N32E-SLI combo behave itself enough to get 3.0Ghz.

It doesn't sound like much to most, but you try it with a B3 Q6600, the most problematic 680i board ever made, an ambient of 26-28c (AC costs money), and a 90mm hand-me-down CPU fan/sink (yes, I am cheap).

Here's my two cents concerning the recommended software toolset (1) and the complexity of the documentation (2).

(1) Any student of engineering (and we are ALL just students, no matter what the piece of paper says) who requested and was given instruction on a process with which he/she was not familiar would not hesitate to use the tools recommended by the engineer who documented the process. To do otherwise compromises the effort before it even begins.

(2) Are you kidding me? It's (at the very minimum) cross-referenced and highlighted by CPU, by Step, by Voltage, by Sensor, and by COLOR! Each important element within the text is clearly stated and is repeated (some 2 or 3 times) for clarity.

'Nuff said.

I had been fighting with this machine for so long that I gave it a name. Thank you for giving me the path.

Oh, and yes, I R an Ngineer.

so i'm guessing 68 degrees in orthos for my E4400 would be too much if the "max" is 61? wouldnt it like auto shut itself down or something though?

Comp, got any new info that was supposed to be released at IDF about the DTS?

^Thanks. I was hoping for some answers....

^ouch.

This stuff really give me a headache!! I finally reseated my HSF and now my idle temps with NO OC is 45-46, which is a lot better than 55!

My question is with a dual core proc, what is the maximum NORMAL variance in temps of the 2 cores?

^Differences of up to 4-5C between core's is "normal". Have you tried RealTemp "Test Sensor"?

Tjmax is the point where throttling will happen. Automatically drops multiplier to 6x. Usualy CPU is not damaged.

The PC Shuts down IF it reaches 125C. CPU is most likely damages or lifespan reduced.

So practically speaking if a cpu hits THERMTRIP and shuts down has there been any damage to the cpu? It's likely that if there was a cooling problem then the cpu would reach that point quickly like under 10 minutes after throttling. For Quad GO's which at 100C THERMTRIP shut down, has damage already been done??

(G) Vcore Load should not exceed 1.5 volts on 65nm processors.

After i read that i checked speedfan to check mine

on speedfan my vcores are
vcore1 = 1.15v
vcore2 = 1.87v

i have a e6750 stock

why is my vcore2 at 1.87v?

Thx for very good guide.

^ I'll call that moderate.