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i guess my next question would be why do u still use a modem? are you located somewhere where cable or DSL is not available? since it seems you spent a couple $$$$ on your computer? Also did you check out that link i sent you for ubuntu. it proved very helpful to me

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Yes, another alternative would be buying a non-winmodem modem. I have never used a modem with linux so I'm not much help here.

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I have installed ubuntu and now I am starting to gather and optimize all the apps I need, just don't have a Linux replacement for my CAD app and for the moment don't have the money to get a new modem that works, that's why I am asking about Xen, how does it run windows (don't need performance out of it, just the temporarily missing services)?

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umm well ive never used XEN, ive looked into it, one thing you could do is run a share drive on your computer, something running Fat32 like 20 gigs or so, and then dual boot windows XP and run Ubuntu. Or you could run like VMware but that wont help with the modem. So if you dual boot you can still connect and also have your linux box for normal work.

If you can get XEN to would id like to get some input on how well it works.

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I have used xen before under gentoo, and it was very fast. However I ran it on an older Prescott without virtualization support so I could not run Windows. From what I have read, and from my experience I would guess that if you have a system that supports virtualization technology then Windows would run very fast and your modem would work, however it is only a guess since I have not tried it.

Setting up xen the way that I did was rather complicated, although i expect it is somewhat easier if your system supports vitalization technology.

Here is some ubuntu documentation. It looks like it gives alot of unnecessary instructions for those with virtualization technology, I would pay special attention to the section labeled "Others using VMX and qemu"

Here is another ubuntu link

Xen also has a live demo cd so you can try it out without installing it on your hard drive here: http://bits.xensource.com/oss-xen/release/3.0.3-0/iso/livecd-xen-3.0.3-0.iso

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I agree with the previous poster, Your best option may be to dual boot Windows/Linux and share files on a fat32 filesystem (on the hard drive or a flash memory card)

a very simple partitoning scheme for an 120G hard drive might look like:

/dev/hda1 - 80G windows NTFS
/dev/hda2 - 10G share fat32
/dev/hda3 - 4G linux swap
/dev/hda4 - 26G linux ext3

I would install windows first (on an 80G partition) and partition and install the rest later during the linux install. Also in the past i have installed windows on one entire hard drive, and linux on another. If you have a current windows install and don't want to lose it you can change the size of the NTFS partition using PartitionMagic (although partitionmagic is not free).

Good luck, let us know what you decide to do and how it works out.

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http://linmodems.org/ seems to have good information on winmodems for linux.

Also i found this thread

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pshrk,

SwissKnife found HERE!! is quite a nice app and it is FREE...

I used it to partition my notebook for a dual boot of Centos and WinXP.

It is a non-destructive partition shrink similar to what partition magic does too.

Just remember that any time you shrink a partition instead of overwriting it you must defrag first and you are still not guaranteed against data loss.

I once shrunk a partition (after defrag) and I lost the ability to print in windows :)

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yea the great thing about ubuntu and a lot of distro new releases is they are starting to recognize windows, so its not like you have to configure grub or lilo, it just works.

so u install windows the ubuntu or gentoo or Suse or Slack, but slacks kinda old school and you have to do everything for it.

but dual booting is a simple way to get things done.

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yea the great thing about ubuntu and a lot of distro new releases is they are starting to recognize windows, so its not like you have to configure grub or lilo, it just works.

so u install windows the ubuntu or gentoo or Suse or Slack, but slacks kinda old school and you have to do everything for it.

but dual booting is a simple way to get things done.



You say that, i tried to load the linux bootloader onto the master and it still keeps coming up with the windows bootloader and no option fro ubuntu. Damn it.

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If its the master then a "grub-install /dev/hda" should install grub onto the master drives boot record.

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Yeah, it looks like I'm gonna be on XP 64 for the foreseeable future. I can't let my unabiding hatred of MS handicap my paycheque! Well, enjoy Brazil! I dunno if on Carneval Eve I'd be indoors typing, but to each his own! I'd be out there enjoying the half-naked chicks!!!! :lol:




:D :D :D I am married with children! There ain't much I can do on carnival that has anything to do with half-naked beauties, booze...

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hmm which version are you using, i have a 20 gig space on my 320 gig WD drive that i install 6.10 on everything works perfectly fine, even when i had windows on 1 120 gig and linux on the other it detected it all fine, but if you cant get it to work, then like try again, normally it will either write over the windows boot loader and you will have to reconfigure it or windows just screws everything up, which in your case seems to have happened...

But normally for me, Ubuntu works perfect, detects everything for me.

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I installed in on one of my 2 IDE drives and running windows off my 1 master SATA drive. Ubunta asked me which drive to install the bootloader onto and I said hd0. Maybe this is where I'm going wrong. Linux looks great IF I can get it too load up. Had fedora but wasn't a huge fan.

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I don't like to put my boot loader on same drive as windows. I've had some problems with it screwing up my MBR. I suggest installing the boot loader to a floppy.

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I don't like to put my boot loader on same drive as windows. I've had some problems with it screwing up my MBR. I suggest installing the boot loader to a floppy.



Although rebuilding a Windows MBR is a fairly simple and quick process, I also prefer not to mess with it.

What I do is - at the time of installing Linux - disable all other drives, so Linux will only see its drive and add the MBR to it.

Then I re-enable all drives, and adjust in the BIOS what is the default boot HD.

To dual, triple, tetra, etc, boot, I use the BIOS boot selection menu (usually the F12 key, or F8 in my Asus mobo). I then choose the HD whose MBR will be loaded.

Having Linux manage the boot menu of all OSes installed was neat until BIOS could assume that role. I believe it's safe using the BIOS boot menu, because that way all simultaneous OS installations remain totally independent from each other and there is no problems with boot loaders (NTLDR, Grub, Lilo, Limal, etc).

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