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As I said, I'm not married to any particular parts. However I do want a PSU that is efficent (don't want huge power bills - I'm living in Qld (Aus). We have a major draught here - so as well as the water bills about to go throught the roof, I can see the power also being effected (since the power stations are using the drinking water...)). And I also want to make sure all the parts are fully looked after, with some room to add new stuff.

Will have a look at the MB. Since we don't have newegg over here, choices are a bit more limited... They also don't seem to match for some reason (do $US to $AUD conversion and our prices are way higher...)

It's a similar situation in the UK here with the higher prices, although it is still relatively easy to get hold of stuff.

Do you know me from somewhere? Prices were ow enough for everyone to afford one. What Intel is doing is predatory use of a monopoly. When your rights are violated through illegal actions DON'T SAY ANYTHING.



ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!

WOW.... I want my cheap chips....NOW
I can only assume Intel has found a cheaper more effective way to manufacture there new chips. They are not going to go into the red just for us.

I wish those of you guys that cry for AMD going bankrupt to shut it i don`t care if they do im tired of making upgrade after upgrade that only yeilds 10% increase i want a REAL upgrade for real money before you all cry for them remenber they make those chips for a lot less then what theyr selling them for its like your just saying that you want the same slow evolution in which after 1 year you pay the next 1000$ for yet another upgrade that is only 10% faster then what you had before isn`t anyone tired of this really i know i am over my head,maybe thats just the problem tha AMD wouldn`t die faster and if they do which i doubt they would you can count on it some new company would take theyr place and maybe do even better and just to clarify things i don`t hate AMD but i do hate this "lets give them another 10% performance for 999$" couse thats what you guys are saying that intel shouldn`t lower prices and that we should still buy those cpu`s for 999$ for the sake of having AMD around unfortunately i totaly doubt intel would go for those prices those prices are just too incredible and like i said before they have to respect theyr rule where they only give customers 10% increase for 999$

Jeez. The Pentium E2xxx and the new Celeron D series will be chump change by then. I smell REAL inexpensive budget overclocking.

Do you know me from somewhere? Prices were ow enough for everyone to afford one. What Intel is doing is predatory use of a monopoly. When your rights are violated through illegal actions DON'T SAY ANYTHING.





ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!

care to explain exactly what rights are being violated here? I'm having a hard time understanding. Thanks.

Do you know me from somewhere? Prices were ow enough for everyone to afford one. What Intel is doing is predatory use of a monopoly. When your rights are violated through illegal actions DON'T SAY ANYTHING.



ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!

Nobody's rights are being violated because Intel introduce a product that out performs and prices attractively.

Companies fold, go under, and fail all the time because they do not have the ability to compete on quality and costs. Your argument holds not water, but you adhere to it like flies on you know what....

The price war is a consequence of competition, now when all is said and done and if Intel is the last one standing, then you may have an argument. But until then the ball is in AMD's court to pull it together and compete.... we know they can do it.... K8 is the best example, K10 will let us know if K8 was a coincidence or if AMD is actually for real.

I must have taken you to your limit. I mean first you offer all of these reasons why AMD will be fine. But as soon as I post you change it all around.

Intel is guilty of predatory pricing and has been since Core 2 was released. PERIOD!!!

Under US case law, predatory pricing requires a showing of below cost pricing. C2D prices are no where near below cost of production. The US legal system, for better or worse, is extremely unlikely to agree with you.

Easy for you to say. Here in Malaysia (ironically where some of the C2Ds and X2 are actually manufactured), it would roughly cost me 1/3 of my monthly salary just for a E6300! Thank god for their very competitive pricing, or not I wont be able to afford top-notch c2d-like performance.

As an enthusiast (prolly not as l33t as u), I really wanted an X2 2 years back when it was spanking my preshott, but daymnn AMD had to price it way above what I could afford. Thank god I didnt rob the bank to get a 4200+ at that time and waited till C2D came out.

I dont believe Intel's pricing is predatory. They just raised the bar a little and made quality chips affordable for ppl like me. As Jack mentioned, AMD now needs to deliver.

I don't know but your source is from The Inquirer and a Chinese web site.

You underestimate it. Do you know what support industries are?

I don't have time to read the rest of this thead at the moment, but I just wanted to respond to this to say that I am a computer programmer by profession, I definately understand the support industries. I'm sure that it would be bad for the global ecomony, and possibly even trigger a recession, but this is not end of the world stuff (and not a 'crash', although I bet the nasdaq wouldn't look so great).

i heart the american free enterprise system.

the free enterprise system deserves TWO yes TWO posts.

Jack, how mcuh would you say it takes an established company like Intel to make one standard dual core 65 nm proc?
Just with materials, work done, and equipment costs in consideration.

...they would be a lot better with a 1337mhz FSB.

Wow JJ. . . -2 for reading that crap.