:? :? :? Why do you insist on following the lead to divert my point? I dont care about stalin or pol pot or the baath party or the spanish inquisitors.
I am well aware of the likes of stalin and Mao and the mass burials that pull their souls to hell with hirohito and all the rest
The comparison is irresponsible. I would rather discuss the comparison of sun tzus strategy to the failure of AMD planning. That at least doesnt have 6 million dead jews tied to it.
Easy bro...I wont mention it again. But understand the comparison is not directly about Hitlers morals, but the stratigic descisions of a campiagn that lead to a specific outcome. Just like mishap investigations, people have to put aside emotional influences to get beyond those influences so the truth can be ascertained.
No ones saying Hilter wasnt a dirtbag, but it has little to do with the stratigic decisions of the campaign, unless you go to the next level, or way back to look at his insanity and his zero defects mentality which drove him further into micro-management. And even those may have a bearing on AMD, depending on Hectors and Henris reactions to any enginerring reports of K10 delays/performance issues.
It was a good analogy in terms of strategy, regardless of the underlying morality issues.
This analogy sucks, sorry. But maybe we could fix it a little-
1.- The Russian tank tech was better than German in 1942 (Panzer III-IV didn't have many chances against KVs, but Russian didn't know how to use that edge). And of course, they had to fight vs T-34 and their answer (Panther) was too expensive. The big guys (Tigers, JSs, etc) were defensive tanks, too slow to do much in an offensive.
FIX: Intel had Pentium M, and they didn't use to conquer the desktop-server space. Till now.
2.- More than one front. If it had been just Germany vs Russia, I think Germany would have won (Stalin was nuts from day one and Hitler went (strategically) nuts just in Stalingrad). BUT, as they were fighting in Russia they had to divert troops to Africa and Western Europe. And their factories were crushed by allied bombardments. They were fighting in too many fronts.
FIX: With ATI, AMD has now 2 fronts.
2.- The first problem of the Red Army was Stalin. First he killed most of the officers in the army and in the first year he was the master?mind. And he lost utterly.
FIX: Management issues. that's easy :-D
3.- Lend and lease. USA send lots and lots of supplies, tanks, planes and weapons to Russia. Without them Russia couldn't have resist the first 2 years.
NO FIX possible, so much for the analogy
4.- Mussolini. If Mussolini hadn't attacked Greece, German would have attacked two months earlier and could have seize Moscow before Fall. Those two months made the difference.
FIX: Mmm, lateness. That sure does ring a bell with AMD.
5.- Winter. German troopers didn't have winter equipment. They hoped to with that front before that.
I will come out and accuse the poster of direct comparison to nazi germany based on the thread title. Any one with a mind of reason knows that 2 of the reichs caused 2 world wars. I think the implication of sacrcastic insinuation is very clear. And worthy of serious correction.
i am not even remotely desensitized to mankinds carnal idiocy ,enough to placate such a grotesque use of logic. One must make alot of moral concessions to arrive at agreement with such erroneous writing.
dude, u are way off the mark. did u even bother to read the op? he doesn't even mention nazies or jews. this is a pure miltary strategy thing where territory is market share, weapons is product, attrition is price war, and resources is equity. the comparison is perfectly valid if u look at it that way and leave out the emotions. all he's saying is amd overexpanded and needs to scale back until it can traction competitive products again.
i understood where he was going perfectly and it has nothing to do with insinuating amd is evil. i can tell the op is prolly a war gamer from his ww2 knowledge. ive met this kind of guy alot. they think _panzer general_ is the best game ever and they always wanna play the germans or japanese in axis&allies cause they like the strategic challenge. if u ever meet one they are usually in technical fields like engineering or accountaing; never in the helping fields. the it industry is full of these guys.
to say that everyone who agreed with the op's argument are morally bankrupt is a stupid blanket statement. it's u who expose yourself to be an idiot with such ridiculous assertions
I think its a petty asasociation for the atrocities commited by the hitler regime. And I think nazis would rather kill alot of AMD non arians than use their tech.
I wouldnt compare Intel to Hitlers riech and theres alot more similarities in the conquest for control. I just think its in bad taste for the horrific things done by the german government at the time.
An emotional opinion that can be argued against. Everyone remembers Hitler as being evil but frankly, Stalin did just as bad if not worse in many cases.
A very well written essay by the way. Maybe someone should send it to this Henrich guy and perhaps he can learn from history and change his strategy accordingly.
I made a point of stalin how? Like not.
Great guys lets just say AMD is hitler reborn, for cryin ou loud what the hell is wrong with you people? You are grouping one of the bloodiest regimes in history with a tech manufacturer deperately trying to create a vision in tech to benefit end users.
What kind of sick shock and awe crap do you guys live on day to day? I think its reprehensible to group AMD and Hitler's reich in any similarities. Or the 3rd reich and Intel for that matter, although Intel would make a better match to the propaganda and quest for control as they pawn off netburst last leavings to stupid preprogrammed idiots.
What the reich and Intel have in common is mind control.Amd doesnt enjoy that luxury . And intel Partbers up in china who reacts to copyright infringement cases with a braod sattement of "it will damage trade"
Which could be taken as well rip off anyone we want to. Perfect suitor for intel, just like the reich.? This comparison is bad.
i think your the only one making that connection and ranting about it.... its just a tactical situation having nothing to do with the countries behind it.
AMD tried to grab too much too quickly, and p!ssed off a giant....
Toyota is a great example of how it should be done.... and I only use this because i have read other commentary from finanical analysts along this lines....
Toyota doesn't have to pay $1200/vehicle to health care and other employee benefits.. .more like $200.00... Put $1000/vehicle in research and development or better parts/machinery and you get a lot of better vehicles.
Reich (rīk, rīKH) Pronunciation Key
n. The territory or government of a German state, as the Holy Roman Empire, or First Reich, from 962 to 1806; the German Empire, or Second Reich, from 1871 to 1919; the Weimar Republic, from 1919 to 1933; or the Third Reich, from 1933 to 1945.
From this definition, we can conclude that Hector's Reich basically translates to Hector's Empire. Actually it is kind of appropriate since AMD's production is based pretty much entirely in Germany.
If you haven't read the original post, you should do so. He makes some very good points.
Seriously, unless you have a serial number tatooed on your forearm, I really can't see why you are getting so worked up over this.
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