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Dont forget harman kardon.

I really like my Bryston amps, they work well with my Snell loudspeakers....

But that is totally off topic....

I cant beleive you guys.......all clueless...everyone of you. Teac RULZ!!

I,ll keep my h/k,onkyo,polks,a/r,s and wharfdales

Hey AMD is gonna cut x2 prices by 20%, single core Athlon's by 15% and Semprons by about 15% on the 9th of next month.

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php [...] =0&thold=0

Oh wonderful, AMD is already sucking red, this will hurt them even more in the long run.

I'm sure the Intel fans can always reply that another company could step forward with a desktop competitor. IBM's done well in console CPUs and has some research projects with AMD, but if AMD drops out of the desktop market and becomes the new ATI only, then I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate.

That means a monopoly. It happened when Microsoft used unethical license agreements to force MS-DOS on PC makers who would otherwise have used a different flavor with Windows 3.1.

When Microsoft dropped out of their agreements with IBM to codevelop a graphical OS to replace DOS, they took what they'd learned and did Windows 95, leaving OS2 to a very small market share because IBM didn't have those licensing agreements.

Intel's under antitrust scrutiny in many countries. Their products are finally innovative and decent (took them long enough) but they got to the top the wrong way during the Netburst days.

I want to see genuine competition without price fixing or products being dumped on the market to drive out competitors. I don't want high prices, I don't want low prices that lead to the demise of competition. I want fair pricing that lets each company get a market share based on the value segments of their processors.

AMD can go back to being the budget processor and rely on ATI for high end profits for all I care. I just want to see them in business and to see Intel finally become honest.

My history of PC CPUs has usually been budget and has favored the best I could afford in that class:

AMD 386-SX 40
Cyrix 486-DLC 40
Intel 486-DX2 50
Pentium 75
Pentium 120
Pentium 166
AMD K62-450
P4 Williamette 1.6
P4 Northwood 2.4
P4 Northwood 2.8
Athlon X2 3800+
Athlon X2 4600+

The reason I went P4 over the Athlon XP is that Tom's egg frying video and heat issues. The reason I stayed away from Netburst after Northwood was because of heat issues. The minute I could afford a new PC with an Athlon X2 I went for it and though C2D looked really good, I have hopes for Barcelona, Agena etc. on the desktop providing some real innovation.

I want choices. Let the honest competition begin without shenanigans from the suits and lawyers of either company.

I have a setup that really surprises everyone.

I have a Yamaha RX-V620 (older but with discreet amps for all channels) receiver, hooked up to a set of four Boston Acoustics VR-M50s (Bookshelf Speakers), with a BA VRM Center Channel. I also use a definitive Technologies 10" Sub.

The Denon 1920 Upscaling DVD player really is very nice. It can upscale even the battle scene in Gladiator without artifacting. I upscale to only 720P because that is the native resolution of my Optima H78DC3. A 720P projector with a Dark Chip 3 DLP chip.

HDTV provided via DISH Network DVR receiver.

This is all I could justify to myself.

With this setup in my Home theater people walk in and are immediately awed by the display. 118" of HDTV goodness .
They are taken aback by the Bookshelf speakers (why did you go with those?) until they hear them. The BA VRM series are very sweet. I looked at pairing the VRM sub with them for a matched driver type expereince but the Bass was was too loose for my liking. I prefer speakers to be speakers not furniture

Sounds (no pun intended) like a great system. But can it rival the awe-inspiring, earth shaking tonal reproduction of the mighty Teac? I think not!

Hey for reel-to-reel you can't beat Teac!!

For their size, the BA's were (are) quite good. Maybe some of the B&O's bookshelf models could match them, but not much else, not in the bookshelf range...

Hey Croc,

Have a read here:

AUDIOREVIEW.com BA VR M50 Reviews

They are truly a good set of speakers... They really do surprise a whole lot of people..