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Your load temps are pretty low for those volts. what is your stress test? also what is your memory multiplier? 3? Are you running 355x 9? I'm using the exact same hardware as the article (mobo and cpu)

For mine, I'm at 3.0 GHz I volt at 1.28 and my load is 52C, my idle is 33-34C. I use Prime 95 for 8 hours stable as a rock. But the cold boots are an issue where you have certain USB peripherals. I have to unplug the usb connections on cold boot. Its just becoming a real pain and annoying. But this is a good setup if I didn't have the cold boot issue.

Thanks for the inputs

Thats what I mean. Toms had no mention. I researched a bit more and the cold boot is a well known problem with this mobo and overclocking. The cpu is irrelevant i think.

For the record, I have had several different platforms with that cold boot issue. It almost always centered around an attached USB device and removal of the device at boot time always seemd to work. It is a hassle, because you would think the settings in the Bios would provide some sort of workaround. I always thought the board saw the USB and was trying to boot from it, but the bios settings were set such that was not the case.

Oh and by the way, I like that Gigabyte DS3L board, good bang for the buck.

Well, I have a P4 3.2EE 478 socket that cost 1,000.00 and outbenches everything.

Oh wait, this is nearly 2008 and my CPU isn't even on the benchmark roster anymore!

This will be the case with all of these current chips we are bickering about now so none of this will even matter in 12-24 short months.

Although I can agree some of this is fun info it should be taken with a grain of salt...

You're singing my song, englandr. 3.2 P4, 2.5 years strong. Now if only I can find a good deal on the elusive 3.4 478 Prescott I'd have the ultimate rig. LOL

Does the are you saying the 965P-DS3 has the cold boot issue or the P35-DS3P? Coz you linked a motherboard that isn't even in the toms article

I wonder if the P35-DS3 (the one I'm looking at) has a cold boot issue.

Sorry for the confusion, I meant that the motherboards in this range has cold boot problems. the P35-DS3 is also well documented to have cold boot issues, as does mine. However, as mentioned after unpluging the USB hardware(s) it disappears. other than that the motherboard is fine and seems to be performing rather well. May I ask how most of you have configured your ram? I have the P35-DS3, E2160 and Adata DDR2 800 ram (http://www.adata.com.tw/adata_en/product_show.php?ProductNo=AD2800U). I left the ram on auto (timings settings) and it runs at 7-7-7 ?? I set it back to 5-5-5 and it crashes when i do 100% load for about 0.5 hours. Thanks for your input.

only thing i can say is an e2160 rocks







and this is on a slightly better than stock cooler

Ummm no. It's got 64-bit technology. I work at Intel, and I package these things on a daily basis. (We do batches ranging from 500 - 10,000.) Right on the box it says it supports 64-bit technology.

am2 motherboards will not support amd quads....you will need an AM2+ or AM3 board ..
p35 boards, some reliable ones are under a 100 dollars , and are able to run intel Quads NOW..
sorry I love amd [amd k2-500 ;athlon mobile 2.6 @3. :clawhammer 3.2 ]
But, I've ordered the E2180... I'll upgrade to the Quad when some programs can us it
My opinion and 2 cents ,AMD messed up with to many dif pin outs

am2 motherboards will not support amd quads....you will need an AM2+ or AM3 board ..
p35 boards, some reliable ones are under a 100 dollars , and are able to run intel Quads NOW..
sorry I love amd [amd k2-500 , rock stable;athlon mobile 2.6 @3. :clawhammer 3.2 [great in the winter ,heats the room]
But, I've ordered the E2180..10 more then the 2160 but has a higher multiplier .. I'll upgrade to the Quad when some programs can us it
My opinion and 2 cents ,AMD messed up with to many dif pin outs

2160 for me. 2180 does not seem to clock as well.

Running a 2160 on a DS3L board flawlessly. As of right now Im at 1200 fsb for no reason other then I just want to take it conservative. I cant get over how good it is, Im running a Cooler Master Gemini with 1 120mm fan and it never gets over 30c gaming on WOW for 4+ hours.

My build
Cpu E-2160 75
MB Gigabye P35-DS3L 88
Ram 2G Patriot DDR2 800 Cas 5 30 after MIR
PS Coolermaster RP500 10 after MIR
Case Rosewill R6A34 40
Cooler Cooler Master Gemini 15 after MIR
Case Fans 2 Zalman 120mm Fans 11
Left over parts from old PC used
GPU 7600GT with Zalman HS
HD's
DVD drives

Also I believe almost all P35 MB's have the cold boot issue, it deals with the chipset from what I have read on Abit forums.

Your Coolermaster PSU for $10 is liable to fry your whole system, good thing it was cheap. I built three Q6600 W/ P35-DQ6 OCed to 3G/1333, none of them have cold boot issues.

Mine doesn't have cold boot issues, at least I haven't experienced any thus far!

A 2200 was just added to the line up running at a clock of 2.2 and a voltage of 1.162V-1.312V (compared to 0.85V – 1.5V) as of newegg.com

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116052

I was wondering if this chip will have better or worse oc (even though logic dictates that is will have better oc becasue of lower voltage)



thzzzz guys

Most AM2 motherboards WILL support the quad-core phenoms - all they need is a bios update. I regret buying my current motherboard due to a couple of missing features etc (Asus M2A-VM) but with the latest bios update even it supports the phenoms.

Thanks to Tom's for the great article. This has been my first computer build and I have the E2160 overclocked to 3.0 GHz presently and have gone as high as 3.1 GHz with no change to the processor voltage and all seems stable. I am currently loading prime 95 (it is currently running some initial tests on my machine) to do more testing to verify stability.

I was hoping I could get some help with memory CAS timings. I am running at 800 MHz memory right now with a GA-P35-DS3P motherboard and A-data extreme DDR2-800 memory which is supposed to be able to have 4-4-4-12 timings. I am currently at 5-5-5-16 according to CPU-Z. I can't find anywhere in the BIOS to adjust this. Could someone clue me in as to what to do. Thanks.

Press Ctrl + F1 at the main BIOS screen, then go into MIT and you will see the timings.

Thanks for the quick response. Works great.

Prime 95 is tough on the processors just like they say. 3.1 GHz worked OK doing benchmarks and burn-ins with Sandra, but running one Prime 95 per core rebooted my machine within a few seconds at the stock voltage. 3.0 GHz worked for 1.5 hours without a problem and I stopped I can use my machine for other tasks now. I'll check it over night to see how it works.

Try Prime95 25.5, it will stress all the cores. Make sure you monitor temps.