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Shadow703793 wrote :

Off topic, but very interesting.
 
@:Evilonigiri Do you happen to have a link to that MSI web page or any more info on it? I should try it some time and will post the results here.  
 
IMO, doing volt mods,etc is much stable (as long as you know what you are doing;) ) than increasing PCIe frequency just for such a small % increase.


Yes, here it is: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php [...] tech_p35_1
 

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5. Adjust PCIE Frequency : Usually, PCI Express bus clock has no direct relationship with overclocking; nevertheless, fine tune will help overclocking as well.(The default value is 100, it is not recommended to set to 120 above, which might damage the graphic card.)


 
I figured if MSI said it was okay up to 120MHz, why not? Seems like when I did it, there was hardly any improvements. If could differ for others, however.


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That MSI page confuses me. How could "fine tuning" the PCIe bus help overclocking (unless we're talking about a 9600GT)?

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Well, in my daring experience of raising the PCIe past 120MHz, I found out that it actually raised my CPU frequency from 3.15GHz to 3.16GHz. I do not know the full details, but I would be glad to know them.
 
The 9600GT is a little different from what MSI was refering to, which is OCing the cpu itself.
 
I have searched in vain as to why faster PCIe equates to better OCing. If any of you finds out, please post a thread on it.


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Hello all!
 
Do any of you have a link to something that explains the memory straps?  I have just built a new computer using the following component but I do not think that my ram is running at the speed it is made for.  Here are my componenets:
 
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Coolermaster RP-550-PCAR
Intel C2Duo E6750
Kingston HyperX 4x1gb DDR2 1066 (PC28500)
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Hello all!
 
Do any of you have a link to something that explains the memory straps?  I have just built a new computer using the following component but I do not think that my ram is running at the speed it is made for.  Here are my componenets:
 
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
Coolermaster RP-550-PCAR
Intel C2Duo E6750
Kingston HyperX 4x1gb DDR2 1066 (PC28500)
Vista Home Premium 64bit.


If you haven't overclocked the FSB then you should use the a memory multiplier of 3.2 to run your RAM at 1066MHz.
 
333MHz x 3.2 = 1065.6MHz (effectively 1066MHz)

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Homerdog,
 
Thank you.  Worked like a charm.  Do any of you have experience with overclocking on the stock Intel CPU cooler?  I was wondering if anyone has done research on this with this processor and mobo.
 
I am testing right now with memtest on 5-5-5-15 2t at 1066 at 2.2v and have no issues.  I will test it tonight with prime95 overnight.
 
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Intel C2Duo E6750  
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Vista Home Premium 64bit.  
 
 
Thanks.


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Here's my hardware configuration, straight out of my profile:
 
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
Core 2 Duo e6750 @ 3.2GHz (8x400) stock cooler
2x2GB G.SKILL PC2 6400 @4-4-4-12-2T (tRD=8)
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I'm running the processor at 1.26V, down from the default of 1.35V. That helped a lot with temperatures. I could easily overclock more if I wanted to, but I don't :)

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Great guide, love the screen shots: answered every question I had.  My new e2160 is at 3.3ghz with vcore set in bios at 1.40v, did 5 hours of Prime without a problem.  Must upgrade the bios though, thanks for the heads up.
 
The vcore needs become exponentially voracious after 3.3 ghz.  My plan is to bring it back to 3.2 and see how low the voltage will go, temps are not a problem - arctic 7 is holding it down like a fat kid on a see-saw - but as others have remarked there's no point in wasting electricity for the tiny performance premium after a certain point on this chip.

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^ Glad I could help. :)
 
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Shadow703793 wrote :

^ Glad I could help. :)
 
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While this is a great guide, it's too specific. This whole thread is for one single motherboard, which not everybody has, thus it will be difficult to get it sticked. Trying to generalize it will overlap with the OCing guide, so that won't work.
 
What you can do is gather a collection of specific OCing guides for many different popular motherboards, then it would be excellent.


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I think the specificity of this guide is its strength. The DS3L is a very popular motherboard, and an excellent platform for overclocking to say the least.
 
I suppose it would be hard to sticky for advertising/endorsement related reasons, but in a perfect world this would make an excellent sticky.

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@ Shadow, a little update to add would be about setting the tRD value. In order to have the static TRead value I believe you have to have the F8a BIOS. I had hard time finding it because of my F5 BIOS, which I upgraded to F8a. It could be a little side note in paren's for those outdated BIOS people like myself :ange:  


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^OK, Thanks for the info. Will update ASAP.


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Evilonigiri wrote :

While this is a great guide, it's too specific. This whole thread is for one single motherboard, which not everybody has, thus it will be difficult to get it sticked. Trying to generalize it will overlap with the OCing guide, so that won't work.
 
What you can do is gather a collection of specific OCing guides for many different popular motherboards, then it would be excellent.


Cool. Ill see if I can get ones for the P5K,etc.


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Update 3/18/2008 @12:30
Included more detailed explanation of BIOS options and recommended settings. Also included bildo123's information on having F8a BIOS installed to see tRD value.  


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Interesting info about the Northbridge cooler, I do remember a thread saying it was an important issue on this MB if OCing but I forgot all about it when buying for my build.  Some recommended junking the stock cooler and replacing it with an aftermarket cooler.
 
I think I'll stick a Scythe Mini Kaze 40mm Fan on it, see what happens.  Shadow how is your NB fan set up?  
 
And is the stock NB cooler attached with anchor clips or mounting holes?  

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I have a 40mm fan blowing on it from the side (pulled the fan off an old K6 lol). My MB temps never go above 35C. It was maxing out at 38C with out the fan. Temps should be fine as long as its below 40C. The heatsink is mounted with mounting holes.


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F6 Bios shows the tRD value under the advanced bios memory timings.
 
"Static tRead Value" to be exact.  I checked this and changed it to 8 today.
 
So you don't need F8 Bios.

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Good guide, I have a HTPC with a p31 ds3l mobo, didnt need to overclock it, as it all it does is play videos lol...
 
Got it to 3ghz easy...
 
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=330631
 
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