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sojrner wrote :

nope, as for Nv it IS "just" sli whether 2 on 1 card or 2 cards... the gf7 GX2's were showing the same performance as "traditional" sli... Only benefit is single slot vs dual. You still had to disable dual monitors and do all the rest of the sli crap to get it working on unsupported games.

as for ati, unsure what their dual on one will do, but as mentioned on the tom's article the ati version seems to scale better than Nv's. Granted, I think even older versions of crossfire scaled better than sli clock for clock.




Oh ok, good to know. Thanks for the information. I am now smarterer.

And I have an elevated level of consciousness because I can make the woman swing both ways...AND stare at her tits.

I am 26 by the way, and still enjoy the juvenile excitement of animated boobies. :ange:


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ATI is not in for it bad, they'll just release a competitive card and nothing will change.

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Can Not wrote :

ATI is not in for it bad, they'll just release a competitive card and nothing will change.




Yea, but have you watched the spinning lady?

We cannot draw any conclusions from your terse statement until we know if you are right or left brained.

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Message edited by rallyimprezive on 01-04-2008 at 08:07:03 PM
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My understanding of the GX2 concept was basically a RAIDed GPU, the machine sees it as one card, but is actually 2 working together. I realize that at some point in the BIOS and system management it will see both, but as far as the interface is concerned, it sends data to one card, gets data back from one card.

I'm waiting for the dudes with deep pockets to post a triple-double pics and benchmarks of this card on the 780i when they hit the marketplace. It's interesting, hopefully it fares better than the 7950gx2's did...

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rallyimprezive wrote :

Yea, but have you watched the spinning lady?

We cannot draw any conclusions from your terse statement until we know if you are right or left brained.


Sorry, I didn't understand that.

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So Nvidia is releasing a chip with 2 GPUs on it, and not a dual core GPU? Why not go dual core?

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There's a radio in my fingernail... CAR!!!

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Can Not wrote :

Sorry, I didn't understand that.

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So Nvidia is releasing a chip with 2 GPUs on it, and not a dual core GPU? Why not go dual core?


There's some stupid picture online that's animated... an optical illusion if you will... and some people believe it's spinning clockwise while others see it as going counterclockwise. Supposedly, this "test" determines if you're right or left brained.

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8800GTS 512mb are dual slot anyway, they can be made singe slot I also expect the ATI dual card will be able to too which will be nice for some.


But really today for most things I cant see how dual slot vrs single lot is a problem if you can afford to buy this card you'll be able to afford a bigger case that can take them.

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is nvidia milking the g92 or are they having issues with the gtx version?

Reply to dragonsprayer

rallyimprezive wrote :

Very interesting, that certainly makes sense.

To be completely honest though, the very first thing I noticed was that you can see her nipples.



Don't feel bad, I noticed it too.

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Reply to justinmcg67

If I can just drag this back to boring video card discussion ;)
I think nvidia may have dropped a bollock here....
I bought my GTX a few months back, so why the hell am I going to want to go to a new 9*** card?
It's going to be an absolute waste of time, and the performance gains are going to be minimal....
If it is just a die shrunk 8800GTS G92 then it is just going to be a hot & power hungry monster no worse than a GTX/Ultra. I'll just buy another GTX and SLi them I think.
ATi have a real chance with the dual 3850/3870 to make an impact on the enthusiast market, if it scales well (as CF obviously does, and is obviously supported by many more chipsets) and can offer good performance I reckon, they'll sell them by the bucket load.
It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens :)

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Me thinks Nvidia is cheap I do.Easyly they could have gone for gpu shrink like AMD did and push there tech skills farther by single or multi gpu on pcb.I see a smackdown by AMD or at least a serious rumble when R700 shows up

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Can Not wrote :

Sorry, I didn't understand that.

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So Nvidia is releasing a chip with 2 GPUs on it, and not a dual core GPU? Why not go dual core?




Apparently you did not read the entire thread. Shame. :non:

Reply to rallyimprezive

i wouldnt buy a new card til they have a performane boost of over 50% of what i have got at the time had an 8500 gt moved up to a 8800 g92 gts so i'll be sticking with this card for a while yet.

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Untill ATi comes out with something that blows Nvidia out of the water, Nvidia is just going to sit on what they have, bump it up little by little and bleed the consumer out of as much money as they can.

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erocker wrote :

Untill ATi comes out with something that blows Nvidia out of the water, Nvidia is just going to sit on what they have, bump it up little by little and bleed the consumer out of as much money as they can.




its working i just upgraded my 8800GTS 640mb to 8800GTS 512mb - i paid to down grade!

Reply to dragonsprayer

I just hope R700 comes and beats the **** out of 9800GX2.

If R700 releases, what will Nvidia have to compete against it? Already the 3870X2 is supposed to compete with the 9800GTX..

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rallyimprezive wrote :

Apparently you did not read the entire thread. Shame. :non:


Apparently you did not answer my question. Shame. :non:

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bildo123 wrote :

Is the incerease in your electric bill going to be worth it lol. Not to mention the that maybe even a 1KW PSU may not handle that. I heard a system with 3 GTX's uses about 700-800Watts total with everything else included, I think it was a intel quad cpu but still, the power needed would be insane.




Come on :pfff:, someone who can afford three 9800GTX's clearly doesn't have cash flow problem. If I use my AC during the summer months my electric bill only rises about $30 dollars which is worth it.

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erocker wrote :

Untill ATi comes out with something that blows Nvidia out of the water, Nvidia is just going to sit on what they have, bump it up little by little and bleed the consumer out of as much money as they can.



You make it sound like NVidia is putting a gun to your head making you purchase one or else, please use only one side of your brain at a time the headaches will go away.

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Reply to systemlord

[quotemsg=1776518,6,61808]None of that makes sense to me.

#1 - The 8800GTS is Faster than the 8800GTX. How could NVIDIA come out with an 9800GTX that is not any faster than the 8800GTS.

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Where did you get that idea? The GTS is still weaker, even the G92.

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I thought 9000 Series was going to be a major refresh in architecture with the once slated "3x PERFORMANCE over 8800GTX". Doesn't look like that now.

Reply to Loser777

Without benchies, all of this is FUD.

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aznstriker92 wrote :

I just hope R700 comes and beats the **** out of 9800GX2.

If R700 releases, what will Nvidia have to compete against it? Already the 3870X2 is supposed to compete with the 9800GTX..

Is that why it has a hard time competing with even the old 8800GTS 320MB? :sarcastic:

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frozenlead wrote :

she's spinning both ways. I saw clockwise first, but if you focus on her lower foot, you can switch it really easy.

i think our lovely gpu race that's been going on for a while is really dragging down.
ATI's just not what it used to be. they have to get the next series out. nvidia has no reason to move foreword.

and i'm sick of recycled crap, too.

this is disappointing.


yeah i did the same thing, interesting little page though :)

thinking from a business perspective, nvidias doing the only logical thing. ati really needs to pull together and create a newer architecture OR fix the severe problems with r600 or rv670 (barely any ROPs which KILLED the performance and potential of the beasts..) i hope they can get it together soon, i'd like to buy their products again :??:

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Loser777 wrote :

I thought 9000 Series was going to be a major refresh in architecture with the once slated "3x PERFORMANCE over 8800GTX". Doesn't look like that now.



I remember when the 8800GTX replaced the 7900GTX, the 8800GTX was more than four times more powerful. I was waiting for a huge upgrade and not some small 30% upgrade. We need a new architecture by November from NVidia, its not worth upgrading to a 9800GX2 unless you own an 8800GTS 320MB or lesser graphics card.

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Reply to systemlord

I don't think I'll be upgrading my X1950 pro this time round :kaola: The only exception would be at least a 1%/$ increase in performance, which is the minimum I'll take.

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As for ATI being in for a rough time......I don't think so (But i could be wrong).

1) First the 3870-X2 should be cheaper to produce versus 9800 GX2. The 3870 X2 will be a single PCB board versus Nvidia's 9800 GX2. This should make it cheaper, and therefore they might be able to pass on the saving to the consumer, and therefore undercutting the 9800 GX2.

ie. If a 3870-X2 costs $500, and delivers 90% of a 9800 GX2 that sells for $700, I think the 3870-X2 will do well.

2) Second ATI's architecture scales better then Nvidias. So having a 9800 GX2 may only increase performance over a 8800 ultra by 30%, but having 2 3870's on a 3870-X2 generally gives over 75% increase in performance over a single 3870.

I'm not saying the 3870-X2 will be stronger the a 9800 GX2 (almost %100 it won't), but it may turn out to be a good product/buy.

Note: Only thing that annoys me is the performance hit that ATi cards take with AA. Enthusiasts who buy enthusiast cards generally like to have high quality picture (AA helps that out), and the performance hit that ATI takes with it on is just to much! I really hope they somehow can fix this!

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Ill add to this post what I added to the shorter one. What do you guys think about what looks like an optical audio port on the back? Is it really the hybrid graphics/sound card that has been rumored or is it an input for the HDMI? The second options seems fairly uneventful but thats still something not mention in the specs

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maverick9611 wrote :

Ill add to this post what I added to the shorter one. What do you guys think about what looks like an optical audio port on the back? Is it really the hybrid graphics/sound card that has been rumored or is it an input for the HDMI? The second options seems fairly uneventful but thats still something not mention in the specs




I wondered about that to, if its for sound then maybe "Creative" has something to compete against. Its an optical port that can pass simple digital data to just about anything, maybe its for an A/V receiver for your home theater.


@ babybudha, I think your right about the ATI's duel chip graphics card being cheaper in cost and with a bit less performance than the 9800GX2. ATI seems to be targeting the PC gamers with smaller screens (19"-22" ) instead of the 24"+ screen sizes for the high-end market. I don't know how ATI fans deal with the huge loss of performance when using AA, that for me would cause me to jump on over to the other side.


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bump.

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This is awesome.

I was SO on the fence regarding my eVga 8800GTS 640, it killed me to buy it. I mean, I had it for quite a while now, so I got alot of gaming out of it, making the wait for an 8800GT not such a good move. BUT, the GT is a sweet pat on the back to the "holdouts". Good job, your patience paid off well guys :)

BUT this??? WTF!!! I am SO happy I didn't wait!!! This is the FIRST time I ever made a good call not to wait and just buy. This sammich-board hack POS would have never gone into my PC, I mean, all c*ck and no balls! HAHA!!!

I think nVidia slightly under-estimated Ati. I mean, pull out the duct tape and wrap it around 2 8800GT and get 30% more power than an Ultra?? Come on. Ultras are ancient now.

This is going to be a trainwreck. I am going to piss myself laughing when the game sites post the Crysis benchmarks and show the high 30's and no support for a bunch of other titles (no frame increase worth the $$$), then really old games getting 200fps.

What would have been interesting is if it was a sandwich card with 2x1GB for people running huge LCD's, then it would be ok I guess.

Seriously, nVidia, you better do something to get 60frames outta Crysis with SOMETHING, cause we ain't buying your 9x series then.

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Reply to Falken699

This is awesome.

I was SO on the fence regarding my eVga 8800GTS 640, it killed me to buy it. I mean, I had it for quite a while now, so I got alot of gaming out of it, making the wait for an 8800GT not such a good move. BUT, the GT is a sweet pat on the back to the "holdouts". Good job, your patience paid off well guys :)

BUT this??? WTF!!! I am SO happy I didn't wait!!! This is the FIRST time I ever made a good call not to wait and just buy. This sammich-board hack POS would have never gone into my PC, I mean, all c*ck and no balls! HAHA!!!

I think nVidia slightly under-estimated Ati. I mean, pull out the duct tape and wrap it around 2 8800GT and get 30% more power than an Ultra?? Come on. Ultras are ancient now.

This is going to be a trainwreck. I am going to piss myself laughing when the game sites post the Crysis benchmarks and show the high 30's and no support for a bunch of other titles (no frame increase worth the $$$), then really old games getting 200fps.

What would have been interesting is if it was a sandwich card with 2x1GB for people running huge LCD's, then it would be ok I guess.

Seriously, nVidia, you better do something to get 60frames outta Crysis with SOMETHING, cause we ain't buying your 9x series then.

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Reply to Falken699

Other than Crysis and Oblivion, what games can really tax a system that bad anyways that would require a 9850 GX2? I played Crysis and Oblivion on PLAYABLE frame rates! Unless I decide to get a 30" monitor, it makes no sense to me.

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I agree with FrozenLead I also saw both directions...trippy.

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i dont even hav a card.....

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The 9800GX2 is for people that either have an older graphics card and its time for them to upgrade anyway or for those that just have to have the best that don't care about the money.

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xcskiier23 wrote :

Other than Crysis and Oblivion, what games can really tax a system that bad anyways that would require a 9850 GX2? I played Crysis and Oblivion on PLAYABLE frame rates! Unless I decide to get a 30" monitor, it makes no sense to me.



People like me have been wanting more power for a long time, I can slow down the 8800 GTX with a 19" screen in many games... I play on a CRT screen at 2048x1536.

I would have to see retail prices and real performance figures before I made any decisions, sounds to me like its just rolling out die shrink as a new gpu to me. Looks like Nvidia struck it so lucky with the 8800 design that they just havent been able to make any headway yet... Or they just cant be bothered because ATI is behind and they got no "need" to push the boat out :pfff:

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dtq wrote :

People like me have been wanting more power for a long time, I can slow down the 8800 GTX with a 19" screen in many games... I play on a CRT screen at 2048x1536.

I would have to see retail prices and real performance figures before I made any decisions, sounds to me like its just rolling out die shrink as a new gpu to me. Looks like Nvidia struck it so lucky with the 8800 design that they just havent been able to make any headway yet... Or they just cant be bothered because ATI is behind and they got no "need" to push the boat out :pfff:




Or this is really all NVidia can do performance wise, well nerver know now. Thanks ATI for not pushing the graphics card market, this is an example why we need ATI to push out great cards. When theres healthy competition there tend to be greater leeps and bounds.

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Cryis will play At Very High Setting at 1920xaabb only on a quad configuration pair up with new Intel CPUs about to arrive, thats about over 2,000 on video cards. Who in the world will spend this much just to play crysis? Anybody know how much this cards will cost? Hopefully when this cards arrives, 8800 gtx prices will drop dramatically, then ill pair up 2 8800 gtx in SLI.

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for the people that were talking about the image of the nekkid chick spinning, I was going to post saying it was fake and actually i did originally post that. but it turns out it isn't...and the reason is, When i first removed the rest of the frames i just saw left right left right. But after looking a little longer I noticed it looked like it was going just clockwise and i really think IT IS the way your brain perceives it.

 

Here is the image Frames 20-34
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/472/fakemy8.gif

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babybudha wrote :


1) First the 3870-X2 should be cheaper to produce versus 9800 GX2. The 3870 X2 will be a single PCB board versus Nvidia's 9800 GX2. This should make it cheaper, and therefore they might be able to pass on the saving to the consumer, and therefore undercutting the 9800 GX2.

 

ie. If a 3870-X2 costs $500, and delivers 90% of a 9800 GX2 that sells for $700, I think the 3870-X2 will do well.


Nvidia already used that design (7950gx2) thus they save a little development costs. In addition, having two GPUs on a single PCB can be a nightmare to develop/manufacture. Usually the PCB needs more layers AND will be longer which are both major cost factors. Additionally if the chips put on that pcb are putting out a lot of heat, it might not be possible to put them on a single pcb without reducing the clockspeeds to keep the card from going supernova.
Given nvdias history with dual cards and looking at their 8800 generation cards, i say they use the dual pcb approach for various reasons.
1. Heat. Two pcbs, while not as good as two seperate cards in sli, provide a larger surface area and should be easier to cool.
2. Cost. If mass produced the single pcb approach, combined with a cooler or lower clocked chip, might be cheaper. That holds only true if it produced in great numbers since the PCB is quite complex and it's size is non-standard. If the card is sold in limited numbers (i'm looking at the GX2 again) then it might be cheaper to use the dual pcb approach. Should the demand skyrocket, they can always create a refresh - that's how nvidia works.

 

I prefer the single-pcb approach because, to me, it is a cleaner approach. On the other hand i'm using a Pentium D right now (the epitome of glued uglyness) so cost and efficiency play a role too. I think Nvidia will place that card at the very high-end of graphic cards and price it accordingly. The GPUs on those PCB are probably something we've seen already, so basically this card doesn't deserve the 9xxx name as others already noted.

 


PS: It is dual, not duel.


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cliffro wrote :

for the people that were talking about the image of the nekkid chick spinning, I was going to post saying it was fake and actually i did originally post that. but it turns out it isn't...and the reason is, When i first removed the rest of the frames i just saw left right left right. But after looking a little longer I noticed it looked like it was going just clockwise and i really think IT IS the way your brain perceives it.




dunno what the hell your talking about but the nipply little vixen is spinning both left and right to me..., first one way than the other.... tease

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No it is going both ways look at the feet, you can clearly see it goes both clockwise and anti clockwise.

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Reply to Hatman

At least we can all agree she's hot.

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9800GX2 MSRP is $450. What would the 9800GTX price be? $350?

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cliffro wrote :

for the people that were talking about the image of the nekkid chick spinning, I was going to post saying it was fake and actually i did originally post that. but it turns out it isn't...and the reason is, When i first removed the rest of the frames i just saw left right left right. But after looking a little longer I noticed it looked like it was going just clockwise and i really think IT IS the way your brain perceives it.

 

Here is the image Frames 20-34
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/472/fakemy8.gif

 

To me she's going clockwise the other, than counterclockwise the next. I personally think the image is set to go left to right than right to left, and has nothing to do with your brain whatsoever.

 

And it's so funny to hear "anti" clockwise. Is that an east coast thing? Over here we just say counter clockwise. :P


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Not sure what this chick spinning is representing...just hopped on this thread and skipped the first pages..It doesn't seem to follow a pattern, she switches between clockwise and counterclock wise. You can just tell by looking at the hand/hip/leg placement. Not sure what this represents though. It's interesting that it switches between the two with a odd pattern even though it's only 100kb. I don't have much experience with GIF's...But I guess you can set it up to randomly to repeat?..that way it keeps the file size small.

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^cliffro did not post the entire animation
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/s [...] 61,00.html

I was trying to figure out why a poster on the 1st pg was so unimaginative and narrow minded - didn't think it would be taken to this level!

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