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nukemaster wrote :

2X XP WEEKEND!!!!! :P




Word! :D

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kolix wrote :

um, no thanks
I'd rather pass on that movie
I'd also take WIC or COD4 over CoH anyday




The games that you play are good for a few months and then you forget about them. A MMORGP you can play for a long time and it is still enjoyable. That is if you are a social person and make friends online and get into the community stuff that they offer.

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Hellboy wrote :

Ahem, Isn't City of Heroes a nerds game !!!!!!!




Do I need to explain to you that it was a joke............ :heink:

????

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caamsa wrote :

The games that you play are good for a few months and then you forget about them. A MMORGP you can play for a long time and it is still enjoyable. That is if you are a social person and make friends online and get into the community stuff that they offer.



This is all true. Even with Crysis. I played the game through and have though of replaying it but haven't. Oh except on thing. TF2 is not a MMORPG. its a MMOFPS and it never gets boring. Especially with all the new maps, different thing that are done with it and people. What fun it is to head shot a noob scout while in mid air.

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jimmysmitty wrote :

Well the only thing here is there are no links to the patents. Plus in the end the guy went to Intel and helped develop the 4004, the 8008 and the 8080 thus giving Intel the ability to use his invention which I am sure he sign legal documents.

Either way this guy helped to define the PC as we know it.


That really was my point. That and the fact that he went to work for Intel because they actually knew how to use his invention.
The reality is that most patents should only be used to identify who should get credit for an invention.
The odd major one, like silicon gate tech, and the 4004, should give the inventor a lot of notoriety.
Faggin was not very good at suing people, but, unfortunately, he has to often been forgotten. Pitty.

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jimmysmitty wrote :

Please next time you post something instead of being a fanboy post a freakin link. I would love to know what CPU infringed on Transmetas os so great designs that we are obviously using in out home PCs today.....oh wait thats right Transmeta doesn't make home processors. They make other specific area processros. Please posst us a link showing this.

 

Hey JimmySmitty I am not fully up on this topic but here are some links to what I think Mrsbytch was talking about. I was a little intrigued as I heard about it a while back but isn't really on my radar at the moment.
http://www.smartmoney.com/onedaywo [...] &hpadref=1
More of the same:
http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/s [...] =193200733
From the low power horse itself
http://investor.transmeta.com/Rele [...] eID=214275

 

I figured I would try and save the readers the Google as I already looked it up. I haven't read any financial reports or corporate briefs with anything other than invester fluff. But again not currently my area.

 

Here is linkage to some rather boring legal rhetoric but relevant none the less.
http://www.news.com/Intel-counters [...] 49378.html
Don't think it is much more than a tactic but its standard and too much is usually better than not enough data.

 

What this comes down to is this is a corporation not a person. "It's just buisness" godfather style nowadays I guess but nothing personal.People forget that I think. Paul Otellini as Scarface!! "Say hello to my little friend" Very litlle in fact 45nm!!! :sol: :D

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The core 2 was a revision of the OLD pentium Pros of long ago developed from Intels Israeli research and development team. This patent is hot air. But maybe intel will be nice to them just to keep from going to court. Maybe buy them new blow up dolls for those lonely friday nights.

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Jackalope73 wrote :

Hey JimmySmitty I am not fully up on this topic but here are some links to what I think Mrsbytch was talking about. I was a little intrigued as I heard about it a while back but isn't really on my radar at the moment.
http://www.smartmoney.com/onedaywo [...] &hpadref=1
More of the same:
http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/s [...] =193200733
From the low power horse itself
http://investor.transmeta.com/Rele [...] eID=214275

I figured I would try and save the readers the Google as I already looked it up. I haven't read any financial reports or corporate briefs with anything other than invester fluff. But again not currently my area.

Here is linkage to some rather boring legal rhetoric but relevant none the less.
http://www.news.com/Intel-counters [...] 49378.html
Don't think it is much more than a tactic but its standard and too much is usually better than not enough data.

What this comes down to is this is a corporation not a person. "It's just buisness" godfather style nowadays I guess but nothing personal.People forget that I think. Paul Otellini as Scarface!! "Say hello to my little friend" Very litlle in fact 45nm!!! :sol: :D



At least youhave some honor in linking proof. But it doesn't state which patents unfortunately. And funny thing is now Intel did some digging and found 7 patents that Transmeta infringed upon. Funny also that Transmeta is going to stop their line of processors for an IP based business but they still only want money.

Will be interesting to find out what will happen. It would be funny if some of the patents that Transmeta has date all the way back to what Intel had in the first Pentium considering they were founded in 1995. It would be thrown out.

chameleon101 wrote :

I found this info http://www.megagames.com/news/html [...] ment.shtml
i hope that it answers a few questions.



This is the same thing though. Only one side of the story which can't be used even in a court of law. Has anyone else noticed the increased number of suits recently? Has been happening ever since Phenom turned out to be a flop and Intel has been getting good revenue. Maybe its a conincidence but still.

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jimmysmitty wrote :

This is all true. Even with Crysis. I played the game through and have though of replaying it but haven't. Oh except on thing. TF2 is not a MMORPG. its a MMOFPS and it never gets boring. Especially with all the new maps, different thing that are done with it and people. What fun it is to head shot a noob scout while in mid air.


Enemy Territory was extremely addictive. until PB just started to bad ALL machines in my house(don't waste your time e-mailing them...it just a copy and paste you or someone on your pc cheated.....total BS....i did play quakewars but was unimpressed[the lvls did not seem as well thought out] with the demo so did not get the game)...

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Hellboy wrote :

Ahem, Isn't City of Heroes a nerds game !!!!!!!



caamsa wrote :

Do I need to explain to you that it was a joke............ :heink:

????




Or was it? :ouch: .....::Twilight theme music insert::


Message edited by Kamrooz on 02-11-2008 at 08:45:36 AM
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caamsa wrote :

Do I need to explain to you that it was a joke............ :heink:

????




Yes, but my joke got a better reaction that yours :)

Now about his 2X XP weeken, whos got the fastest booting rig :)

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jimmysmitty wrote :

At least youhave some honor in linking proof. But it doesn't state which patents unfortunately. And funny thing is now Intel did some digging and found 7 patents that Transmeta infringed upon. Funny also that Transmeta is going to stop their line of processors for an IP based business but they still only want money.

Will be interesting to find out what will happen. It would be funny if some of the patents that Transmeta has date all the way back to what Intel had in the first Pentium considering they were founded in 1995. It would be thrown out.



This is the same thing though. Only one side of the story which can't be used even in a court of law. Has anyone else noticed the increased number of suits recently? Has been happening ever since Phenom turned out to be a flop and Intel has been getting good revenue. Maybe its a conincidence but still.



I wasn't really presenting it as proof just a heads up. "I haven't read any financial reports or corporate briefs with anything other than invester fluff." These are corporate games that companies play. They have to bank roll legions of Lawyers that do nothing most of the time. So if you pay to retain them why not use them. Also if you follow the stock, everybody’s stock goes up when there is a chance of a settlement in their favor. Only a few dollars a share but that can translate in massive financial gains in trade, day in and day out. Not to mention influencing investor confidence and increasing borrowing and such fiscal leverage. Again it is nothing personal just keeping legal busy so they don't go on a brain eating zombie rampage. And in reality it keeps money moving around and actually stimulates the economy. It is like the ebb and flow of the economic tides, prevents market stagnation without stirring up any serious muck.


Message edited by Jackalope73 on 02-11-2008 at 11:26:55 AM
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Hellboy wrote :

Yes, but my joke got a better reaction that yours :)

Now about his 2X XP weeken, whos got the fastest booting rig :)




Got my Defender from level 16 to level 28 this double exp weekend. Thought you would like that bit of info since you showed interest. :D

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We need to gather in the streets and listen to the words of the might amd god thunderman he shall lead us to salvation. Performing jihads on all those non believes as we pass and if by the grace of god the evil intel empire martyrs us we can get our 72 quadfather systems with 3870x2 video cards.
sorry just had to.

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AdamJ wrote :

IDK. People who care about the money and dont really give a **** about their comsumers/customers are evil in my eyes.



Then every company is Evil. There is not a company in existence that is not in the game to make money, and if a company tells you different, they are lying through their teeth.

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GreenSpoon wrote :

Then every company is Evil. There is not a company in existence that is not in the game to make money, and if a company tells you different, they are lying through their teeth.



AMD is a non-profit company. Well, actually....

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TechnologyCoordinator wrote :

AMD is a non-profit company. Well, actually....



Ohhh, right. I forgot they are "special." :pt1cable:

Companies do a great marketing job when people actually believe a company is around for a reason other than making money.


Message edited by GreenSpoon on 02-11-2008 at 07:03:36 PM
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thunderman wrote :

I'm not here to troll....believe me. I just really appreciate what AMD have done and how Intel has done many evil tactics to get where they are today. I can understand why someone might think I'm a troll..but I just have a passion for AMD. AMD have treated me well...because every AMD CPU I have owned has been great and never let me down.
Yeah people like to say negative things about AMD...Just don't bite the hand that feeds. Remember that many technological steps forward have been from AMD and they are the company innovating lately. I just feel sad that such a great CPU company is soo low on finance and being ripped apart by evil giant corporations like Intel. I really do hope AMD wins their Anti-trust case and exposes Intel for what they really are. I will continue to support my masters AMD and will continue to fight their corner. Without AMD the PC industry will be doomed.

Please show your support for AMD! I will lead the AMD fan movement! Intel are Evil!



Squeal little piggy.

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reynod wrote :

Chernobyl was the result of a mad electrical engineering experiment, poor reactor design, and poor regulatory body with non-enforced policies from a Government with weak systems other than obsession with defense and media and individual control ... at the time anyway.

It wouldn't have mattered what control systems were in place ... because the stupid engineers bypassed everything in their experiment.


P.S. +1 for thunderman !!!



They wernt stupid engenires, they had never worked in a nuclear power plant before, they had only worked in coal ones. So they had no experience what so ever of how it worked, you cant blame them for this. The russian goverment told them to do it, didnt give them a choice, and they couldnt complaine, thats the way communism works. (Similar to the british goverment, actualy).

I believe the regular team who usualy manned the reactor were ill at the time, and there was a staff shortage. When the reactor blew up, they didnt even know what had happened, you cant really blame the engineers that where there at the time for what happened. Still a stupid design of reactor though.

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Perhaps this topic should be moved to:

Tom's Hardware Forums » Nuclear Reactors » Graphite Moderated » Overclocking » General

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TechnologyCoordinator wrote :

Perhaps this topic should be moved to:

Tom's Hardware Forums » Nuclear Reactors » Graphite Moderated » Overclocking » General

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lol, Yeah definatly in the "overclocking" bit lol..........

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uk_gangsta wrote :

They wernt stupid engenires, they had never worked in a nuclear power plant before, they had only worked in coal ones. So they had no experience what so ever of how it worked, you cant blame them for this. The russian goverment told them to do it, didnt give them a choice, and they couldnt complaine, thats the way communism works. (Similar to the british goverment, actualy).

I believe the regular team who usualy manned the reactor were ill at the time, and there was a staff shortage. When the reactor blew up, they didnt even know what had happened, you cant really blame the engineers that where there at the time for what happened. Still a stupid design of reactor though.



According to a post in Wiki they are stated to have been running a "wild" security experament trying to make sure it was all good. Turned out one of the rods got too hot and when put into the collant got hotter and then.....kaboom.

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They where running a test routine, one of the parameters got to hot, as a result the rot shattered, spilling graphite into the core, thur creating a run-away combustion.

As i stated, if they where trainged to work in a nuclear plant, none of it would of happened.

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I hate say but you guys still don't have the full picture. I was serving in the Navy on a Fast Attach Nuclear submarine. The final report on what happened and when with a timeline was required reading. The report was confidential at the time.

 

Lets just say the moderator for that reactor was carbon. The control rods had a 6 foot attachment of carbon on the bottom of each control rod. They were attempting to perform a test at low power were the reactor was never designed to run and they disabled every single safety system and threw out the door every other safety procedure.

 

They shot themselves so many times in the head and other body parts that its a wonder they did not do more damage than they did. The caused a Steam explosion inside the reactor core. that blew the reactor core apart and do to all of the heat production and the oxygen that now entered the core the carbon started to burn releasing all of the fission fragments into the smoke along with any fuel.

 

The other thing to remember is that the design of the reactor did not include any containment building like US Nuclear Plants. You just had a simple building structure around the reactor.

 

Be glad that there are no reactors in the States with a similar Reactor design.


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