The only question is...should I OC to 3.6, or not?
If you wanted to overclock you should have bought a CPU cooler designed for overclocking, instead you were happy with the stock cooler which isn't much of an overclocker. Which PC case do you own? Here is the case with five 120mm case fans and CPU cooler I bought for overclocking my whole system. You can't OC much with that tiny Intel cooler. You don't have to spend $300 on a PC case to OC though, I recommend if you are really wanting to OC get the Antec 900 for $119.99 at NewEgg and a Tuniq Tower for $44.99.
42- 45 is average reading on that chip your okay, mine idles at at 42-43 even though I think its really more like 28 -30 since people are overclocking these to 4.0ghz.
You have not a clue to what you are talking about, lol. Most of these people are either using a massive CPU cooler or water cooling. Stock cooling is for stock clocks, don't ever think your temps are cooler than your being told by temp programs! Not everyone is using the same cooler.
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Here's the thing though. Something, somewhere is reporting the temperatures incorrectly.
I have the E8400 also at stock speeds and with the stock cooler.
My Asus Suite and Speedfan both say idle temps are 28-30C and under load (running two Orthos for ~15 min) they show temps at about 45-47C.
CoreTemp shows idle temps at 45-47C and under load, temps were 61-63C.
Not sure which, if any, are accurate. I remember reading that these 8400's had something funny with the thermal sensor not working right. Not sure if it was just a theory or if it's been proven or not (haven't read anything new about it). So I'm guessing either Speedfan/MoBo software is reporting wrong temps or CoreTemp is.
PS. Bioshock is amazing.
Intel processors have two different DTS (digital thermal sensors) one is measured inside each core and the other is measuring on die temperatures, on die temperatures are 15C degrees cooler than core temperatures.
Okay, I'm thinking of RMA'ing it. Problem is I lost the plastic wrap to put the cpu/fan in. I have the actual box it came in, with the name in it and the barcode and everything, but the plastic thing it was sealed in is lost. Also, the pushpins are a little bent. That's obviously not whats wrong here though. Is it still possible to RMA through newegg/intel?
^^ Your fine just get either the Zalman or the Coolmaster I posted. Both use screws that even the cooler perfectly over the cpu, that way you dont stress. But Rma away if you think that another chip will solve your plastic screw problem cuz it wont those plastic screws just plain suck. Its already been posted that the sensor on these chips might be off and they are probably running cooler, than the aps are displaying. I tried 2 coolers on mine just to make sure and the temepratures where practically the same with both, but when I used the stock cooler I noticed it was higher because the plastic screws where not staying in correctly, causing the cooler to rise above the cpu slightly so that the cooler was not even on top of the cpu.
Message edited by Eternal on 02-20-2008 at 09:08:23 AM
OMG, how many times does it have to be said before you will listen. All the other posters are ignoring the fact that the E8xxx series procs have faulty temperature sensors, OR immature BIOS that is keeping your CPU from reporting properly. I promise you, you are not reaching those temperatures. Get a digital thermometer and aim it at the bottom of the heatsink. That's the only way to truely tell your temps at the moment with the Wolfies. I don't know if the same fault exists with the Yorkies, so I won't comment.
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Alright, thanks Thanatos. I'll do something like that.
Anyways, I called up intel and they said that I should be fine sending it back as long as the heatsink and cpu is back, and I shouldnt worry about the pins. But he said with my problem he doesn't see an issue with the chip and I wouldn't be able to get a new one because it seems to be fine, high temps on cores or not. He said that the general CPU temps is what should be monitored and that if I have an issue with a core temp then the general cpu temp would be a lot higher. My CPU is at 33 degrees C so he said that was completely normal, and that he cant see it being RMA'd due to the cores. But he said in the future if there is an issue then I can RMA it.
Is he right? Should I only pay attention to the general CPU temp?
Why do you people guess whats going on? Why dont you download coretemp, TAT, and speedfan and compare the three. Likely you will find two that are similiar and one program thats way off. Then you will know what your temps really are instead of guessing.
Damn Intel for shipping bugged processors.
Thats what you get sometimes for buying the first batch of any new product, theres almost always a problem with some graphics card makers at launch. Welcome to the cutting edge of pushed, rushed out new products to market. MrsBytch you seem suprised, this has been going on for long time now, don't be suprised anymore. O yea Dam AMD for releasing those buggy slow performing Phenoms.
How many times, and from how many sources, do you have to hear it for it to sink in. The core DTS sensors on the 8400 are buggy. Try skipping the digital thermometer and put that money into a high end heatsink with a backplate. Even if you determine that the CPU isn't running hot, which you will, you can't overclock very far with that POS stock heatsink. Especially since you have installed and removed and installed and bent the push pin and it won't stay in anyway. Sheesh.
Take my entire post as though it was done in all capitals and in red.
Try listening to the people that respond to your questions.
I am surprised nobody here mentioned this already--
The 8400's are known to have bad heat sensors. Heck, mine says it is 55-65C at idle as well... No biggy. It is running cooler then your apps will say.
+1
There's reports all over the net about "stuck" temps and overboard temp readings. Looks like programs are having issues reading the info from the CPU. This is all on different motherboards too.
I use coretemp and have gotten the temps to 104c (wouldn't go any more). It doesn't throttle or shutdown and my heat sink is just warm to the touch. At idle my readings are 59/63 at any speed (3 to 4ghz). At stock 3.0, the temps don't move at all when stessing or at idle.
I have a Q6600 which I pushed >80c and I can tell the difference just by measuring the temp of the air in and out of the case.
Message edited by cd14 on 02-24-2008 at 08:07:44 PM
How many times, and from how many sources, do you have to hear it for it to sink in. The core DTS sensors on the 8400 are buggy. Try skipping the digital thermometer and put that money into a high end heatsink with a backplate. Even if you determine that the CPU isn't running hot, which you will, you can't overclock very far with that POS stock heatsink. Especially since you have installed and removed and installed and bent the push pin and it won't stay in anyway. Sheesh.
Take my entire post as though it was done in all capitals and in red.
Try listening to the people that respond to your questions.
I said it before that I bought the Arctic Freezer 7 Cooler...
