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It's not free market, its price fixing ala Socialism and Communism

Christ, do you talk some drivel!
Read about the EU before you start telling us about what you 'know'....
Was that an American-greatest-nation-in-the-world rant or what?

Yeah, he's a real genius that one!
Aren't America in the middle of a big financial crash at the moment-
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/ge [...] y_big.html

Ohhhhhh, my bad, that's dated 1929!

Look at the OS as separate from the programs that run on it. Things become easier to see then.



Take for example media player.

Yes, media player comes free with the OS, now how can the competition be expected to provide a competitive product if they have to pay for the OS code and the MS media player programmers do not?

That is not a free market.

The Seahawks? Unfortunately I don’t pay attention the football until the playoffs. Lemans on the other hand, I love to watch that. I am hoping to see another good year between Audi, Porsche, and for the near future Peugeot. (I root for the TDI just because they are diesel like fuel) Oh, do you care for a rally?


mtyermom:

When was the last time the French did anything for this planet... galaxy... universe? They made French toast, French bread/pizza, and French fries. I am not saying I don’t like the people; I just don’t like the arrogant personalities (as I an American sit arrogantly picking on the French).

I do respect you opinion. Without any opinion, we would never have anything to talk about.

Funny how people don't realize Chunkymonster is an AMD fanboy, and this is just a thread for him to bash on the big companies. He hasn't even posted a reply yet.

Absolutely on the money as to why the EU commission fined MS....

Who forces you to use media player?

Um... is this serious (I really can not tell)? You are right; itunes, winamp, Creative MediaSource (with the purchase of the hardware), real player, and the list goes on. Are these not free players (other then Creative MediaSource, which is free with any creative soundcard)? How many games or developers use windows media player for their videos or other media formats. I see most games with AVI or another format, which are free too.

Then there is the internet explorer. Any user can download firefox, mozilla, safari, opera, and other for free. Microsoft does not force anyone to do anything, this give you somewhere to start. Just because people are not educated enough to find other programs to use is not MS fault.


This is not an attack, this is just to point out how many free programs there are out there. Please do not take this personal.

Lemans? Man, that takes me back a long time. I got into racing cars back in the 1960's. Took three firsts. Went to Lemans back in 1972. Lost my racing licence in 1976 after having a seizure. I still love the cars and the action, though. Not sure how well Peugoet can do. After all, they're a French company.

Run Linux and you won't have to pay. Is that too complicated for you to comprehend?

I am talking this way because i am a customer that works at a company that produces a product. If my product were suddenly "free" i wouldn't have a Job, and the US would look like the disaster that is the EU. our politicians are doing plenty of damage already, we don't need to export that crap.

Really? Who (please be specific) is forcing (How are they being forced? Violence? Blackmail?) a company to sell software for any operating system?

So I pulled an old link that I thought was current. There were multiple dates on the page, and I noticed the wrong one. Your link is not exactly up to par either. You obviously didn't read up on the methodology. The report you linked only shows persons unemployed for < 12 months. Long term unemployment rates are not included in the specific page you linked. All change in unemployment rates proves is that price fixing, government subsidies and fines for competing businesses works good.

I already asked why are you talking about the consumer in this context - but you obviously completely ignored it.


How is it fair that competitors have to pay for the OS code, and MS in-house media programmers do not?

DUDE, that is awesome. I am getting into racing myself. I am starting with SCCA and tuner class (with ICY/Phoenix Racing based out of Phoenixville PA).

I am hoping the Peugeot team will get over their French handicap. Their car is the same as the Audi TDI but with a 6 speed and slightly more power. They just run a full cabin instead of an open cockpit like Audi does. But Audi will have to go to the full cabin soon.

Yeap, all of which had to pay MORE than media player did to get the OS code.