If the same lie about the E8400's is repeated enough times, does it become fact in some people's minds?  
 
Even the CPU guide in this section quotes "Rumors from the interwebs", or something just as credible, and trys to move people away from the Wolfdales.   However, a quick search on newegg shows 250+ reviews, and I can't find a mention of this.  (Before everyone flames the newegg reviewers, I wonder how many people here have purchased something from them and reviewed it.)  It is by no means a scientific sample, but it speaks wonders.  
 
I am only mentioning this, because I just read a post in another thread that said  "Oh yea, the E8400s ALL have problems!", or some horse **** like that.   It is as dumb as saying all the Phenoms have problems.
 
The hype surrounding these chips, on this board and others, has caused everyone who can access BIOS to screw with the FSB.  They think that because one person got 4.2ghz on air with thiers, that they should try.  People spend much time reading about messing with RAM timings and the FSB, and have no idea what voltages are, or what is safe/unsafe.  I dont feel sorry for people that burn chips this way.  I actually saw a guy bitch that he couldnt get his over 4ghz (33% OC!!!)  so he was RMAing it.  Ludicrous.
 
If people are having legitimate problems with temp sensors, that is something we need to know.  I've seen more posts regurgitating  "a friend of a friend" stories on this.  Myself and 3 other people I know personally own this chip and have OC, and no problems yet.  Core temp reads and reports the temps fine.

Looks like you already know the answer. Someone posts about one, you get some fanboy from the other side responding in kind.
 What is really sad is that people coming here for advice, get fed this crap.

Chalk one up for another satisfied 4GHz E8400 owner

True, just like the B3 Errata.
Never going to happen in everyday use and look at all of the slagging off on here (and how many owners are there?   )

If the same lie is said enough times, does it make it true?
 
sadly the answer is yes, in the minds of many people this will make it "true" also if they want to believe it they will treat it as fact.
 
look at religeon, racism, fashism, the killing of "witches" hundreds of years ago, ghosts... the list goes on  
 
i know these are on a much higher level than the E8400 rumor lol but i think they work on the same principle of people believing rumors, myths and lies because they want to or because every one around them tells them its fact.. when it clearly is not

 
 
Its called "Common Sense", something that seems to have disappeared from the worlds population some where around 1985 and replaced with 24 hour TV, Mass Media (hype) and followed a decade or so later by the internet. The internet allow everyone to consume as much BS as they produce, creating an intellectual vacuum, which was filled by fanboys and porn.      

 
nice words, very true

Heh... it all boils down to:
 
1.)  Having the correct most updated bios.
2.)  Knowing a work around (Disabling DTS Feature on some MB).
3.)  Understanding the 3 sensors (Tcase,Tjuction)
4.)  Having some accuracy on ambient temps.
5.)  Having good airflow.
6.)  And knowing how to correctly install the HSF on a 775 socket MB.
 
Also knowing the right kind of chipsets on MB that can handle OC better.  I find it kind of crazy to OC to 4ghz myself, but still impressive without water cooling.  I find 3-3.6ghz fast enough.
 
But there are unhappy people out there, wanting to put their mark somewhere to stress out their frustrations.  I find it kinda funny how some people call the sensor problem that serious when they don't understand how the problem occurs.  As well with the Phenom bug, which people don't seem to understand it, and want to totally avoid it.  But then, to get random BSOD is just frustrating all in its own, when your trying to get more speed out of it.
 
One of these days, we'll look back at this and laugh our butts off when the technology advances to a higher level.  . o O (remember the days when the...)

AMD Fanboys are looking for anything true or not to make them feel like AMD isn't sooo bad.  I think it is related to depression.  A depressed person wants everyone else to be a fraked up too... That way his life doesn't seem to bad...
 
Now that fanboys do not have something factual to base their arguments on, they are simply flaming to get attention..  
 
If there was a problem with the new Intel processors, why would only the wolfdales suffer from it?  The already released QX9650 is immune? It's the same core people.

Misery... loves company.  `Metallica

The funny thing is this is a free voice for morons.As humans we tend to gravitate to negatives,and the few thats rashanal are lost in the see of fanboy-ism on any side.We all have a little Thunderman in us ,some show it more than others

 
Spoken like a true Intel fanboy.  You mean just like the Intel fanboys while they were getting spanked by AMD from 2003 to 2006?  
Its true theres a problem but its no big deal> Just like Phenom, 99% of users will never have a problem, but Intel fanboys make the problem seem like its huge and the product is defective.  If Phenom is defective, then the E8400 is defective, end of discussion.

What's this DTS?  Is that the DTS for the onboard sound or what?  Sorry, having a brain fart right now.

hahahaha pwned !!

Soooo true.

 
 
 
You make zero sense and compare apples to oranges.
 
The problem with the Phenom is its bugs and its LOW PERFORMANCE WHEN COMPARED TO THE OVER YEAR OLD Q6600.
 
And I'm sorry, saying some of the E8400s don't OC as well as others does not make it defective.  Does it run great at standard settings?  Yes?  Not deffective.  Seeing people OC the thing to 4+ Ghz is eye opening.  People having problems with their E8400 OCing to 4Ghz?  Sorry about your luck, but the chip still works great at 3Ghz as it was marketed to when you purchased it.
 
But please continue to compare the very impressive dual core Wolfdale to the under performing, more expensive quad core Phenom.
 
And this is coming from a guy that's really rooting for AMD.

 
Are you trying to provide an example to the quoted statement?

Digital Thermal Sensor.  I may have got it mixed up in my mind with (off the CPU OC'ing Section):

This was off another thread: