LOL your confusion is getting me confused also. What is so hard to understand? Stock E8400 runs at 3.0GHz, 600MHz faster than a stock Q6600 at 2.4GHz! 99% of games don't take advantage of quad cores, so 2x 3.0GHz cores are faster than 4x 2.4GHz cores. Simple.
. o O (Soooo... 3000mhz-24000mhz=600mhz)
. o O (I guess nobody understands meeeee.....)
The confusion I was taking... was to run a Q6600 at 3000mhz or 3ghz, and being told an E8400 would still be 600mhz faster. That was my take on what yomama was saying to me, and how it confused me or him.
I think I'm just reading/typing too much at one/same time.
What I'm trying to point out here is that, without overclocking, E8400 is a clear buy over Q6600 in terms of gaming. 600mhz is really hard to make up just by two extra cores. As a result, for Joe Blows who wants to have a fast rig without the hassle of overclocking, E8400 is pretty much the clear choice.
Of course, overclocking Q6600 is not hard, if at all. However, not everyone has the background for it, or fully understands the inherit danger of it.
. o O (dat's what I overlooked)
So I was thinking 8400 (3ghz) Q6600 (3ghz) and wonder why the 8400 was 600mhz faster (from my previous replay above his post)... I think I need an expresso, or just go to bed. Hmmm.
Message edited by Grimmy on 03-01-2008 at 03:54:31 PM
If spelling and grammar are the best that you can do then you'd better pack up your cut lunch and yogurt and go home.
It certainly is better than spouting out FUDs without even knowing what they mean, don't you think?
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I am still unconvinced that an E series CPU would be a more future proof buy than even a lower end Q ...
Unless your on a budget.
Now we're changing the subject again? I only said E8400 is better than Q6600 in terms of gaming, at stock speed. Show me a game that dramatically take advantage of quad core (with the exception of Supreme Commander).
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They are probably all being recalled.
You mean like how Barcelona are being recalled? Oh wait, they're not recalled, because they weren't even shipped!
You are jumping all over the place! My OP was about the problem that e8400s are burning out when running at 1.4v or more and/or high >500 FSB that a lot of people are using to get 4ghz. If that bothers you then tough!
High 500 FSB? In order to achieve 4.0Ghz, the least FSB you need is 450Mhz. I already show you a picture that Coolaler (not himself) took an E8400 to 4.0Ghz with 1.26V. How come your "a lot of people" is different from "Coolaler's" data?
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Most people are buying the e8400 to OC it to 4ghz or more. I never said the e8400 was a bad chip and some can do it on voltages that are well within spec. I only pointed out it has limitations like everything else that show it may not be the 'must have 'chip that warrants all the hysteria and premium prices it seems to be getting.
Really?
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If it is going to burn out at that then there isn't much advantage in getting it over a e6750 or other C2D.
So if you just said E8400 was not a bad chip, then how come you also said its not a worth buy over an E6750, a POS chip?
I'll say it again. No one, not Intel, not you, not the vendor you bought it from, guaranteed a 4.0Ghz overclock. The premium price is due to its overwhelming demand and low supply. Intel never priced them at a premium (183USD tray price). It is YOU, along with others who believed the chip can be OCed to @#$%^, therefore dropped your greens on it.
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If you are not going to OC then fine but this is an enthusiast site and there are a lot of people that do. Adding that comment to your argument is silly and actually support my comment that there isn't any real world advantage over 65mm C2D/Q owners that do OC.
You're thick aren't you? If OC is all you care, then why don't you get a Pentium D 805 and OC it to 5Ghz?
As I posted earlier, I'm not sure about XtremeSystem users needs 1.4V to achieve 4Ghz, those who have knowledge about overclocking only needs 1.26V.
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I don't care if you are getting indigestion over the fact that someone has said something unfavorable to your world view. Get over it.
Neither do I. If you want to believe something that's completely opposite of the reality, please, do us a favor, post these FUDs somewhere else.
Your probably still living at home in the basement eh?
Take pot shots at who you like but if you didn't understand my comment then I'm not wasting time explaining it to you.
Who is the fanboi ... ??
Next to TC your the most prolithic AMD hater on the site.
Get a life ... "trailer park techie" seems to suit you just perfectly.
I love how you resort to PERSONAL ATTACKS when your FUD is challenged. You try to bait an e-penis war by saying "trailer park techie". We'll your invitation to a flame and e-penis war is declined. You need to take a chill pill. Whenever someone says something good about Intel or bad about AMD it sets you off. You start attacking the person in any way possible. At first you attack the argument, and when that doesn't work you start attacking the person and try to discredit them by making statements that you have no way to verify.
By the way, trailers don't have basements, so you have to make up your mind as to whether factboys live in trailers, or our parents basement.
Message edited by TechnologyCoordinator on 03-02-2008 at 08:28:08 PM