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apache_lives wrote :


 
With all these attacks on Intel, what and when will intel do something to match?


 
I suspect that Intel may attempt a chipset with the Atom to compete in this area.
 
They may even be able to match what AMD has released with their own equivalent Celeron.
 
At any rate, this is a huge step forward in the right direction, esp. for HTPCs.

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This is intelligently made.
 
COOL in every way though I may not understand some of its features but I gonna buy this mobo.
 
This would be a big hit chipset if available in Intel socket version. ^_^


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This is intelligently made.
 
COOL in every way though I may not understand some of its features but I gonna buy this mobo.
 
This would be a big hit chipset if available in Intel socket version. ^_^


 
Oh I dont think AMD would pass up the opertunity to make this platform available for Intel users. They realy cant pass up the sales at this point.

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Isnt Intels GMA X4500 HD a responce that can be seen as a competitor?

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Well I'm thinking about buying this, and throwing it in a low profile Micro Case.  I also want to a PCIe TV Tuner in this, so that I can run TV/DVR to my 37" LCD TV.  I plan on running 2G of RAM in this and a 320GB HD.
 
Anyone know what the smallest Power Supply you can go with is?  I don't plan on putting another video card in it.  I'm trying to do this for very cheap, so I can finally get rid of my Cable Companies DVR since they piss me off all the time.

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Anyone know what the smallest Power Supply you can go with is?  I don't plan on putting another video card in it.  I'm trying to do this for very cheap, so I can finally get rid of my Cable Companies DVR since they piss me off all the time.


 
Your foolish if you think a media center pc is a worthy replacement for a digital cable box with dvr even if the media center pc has cable card input. :non:  

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I'm sure its a very nice chipset.  Pity its tied to the Phailnom.  That's kinda like taking a Ferrari and hitching a donkey to the front, yes?


 
How's it tied (only, as you make it seem) to the Phenom?  Would you really make a high end gaming system out of this chipset?  Really?
 
This setup with a PROPER cpu is definitely my next HTPC.

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Your foolish if you think a media center pc is a worthy replacement for a digital cable box with dvr even if the media center pc has cable card input. :non:


 
 
Why is that?  This chipset has HDMI output, and the card I would be putting in can handle Coax input, watching and recording TV, and has a remote.  I absolutely hate my cable company.

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jflongo wrote :

Why is that?  This chipset has HDMI output, and the card I would be putting in can handle Coax input, watching and recording TV, and has a remote.  I absolutely hate my cable company.


 
My bad, I understand your comment now. If using standard analog cable tv signal your are correct. However, getting digital cable signals into media center is a pain in the royale-you-know-what. Unless your using cable card, then you must use a digital cable box to get digital channels, which by the way can only be output-ed through s-video at best. Where's the benefit to digital if it has to be converted back into analog to get into media center?
 
BTW, im not totally knocking on cable boxes and media center. I tried the setup for some time. It finally hit me that if I were to stay the digital cable route my only real option for not throwing money away was just use the cable box dvr. I even went as far as getting a second box for the bedroom. This was a cool setup because I could start watching in the family room move to the bedroom and pick up right where I left off. In fact, I didn't even have to shut off the living room dvr, I could just move to the bedroom and turn it off from there.
 
I bailed out on this setup after my year promotion was up and setup a dual tuner media center box with just analog cable. The gigabyte board is near perfect so I can get a small computer case and place it in a VCR TV mount hanging below the tv. Before, I had to have a full size computer case...too big, too heavy.
 
As far as power, an intel q6600, this board, a couple of hard drives, a couple sticks of memory, a dvd burner, and two tv cards will probably hit a max 350 watts (21 amps) at start and smooth out to about 125 watts at idle. So, obviously you'll at least need 350 watt PSU. Overtime as the PSU loses it peak power rating, you'll find it will not boot at times. Thus, you can get a higher rated PSU now, or buy another later when technology has gotten more efficient.

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I agree.  I love this setup and have been waiting years for someone to integrate to give me this capability.  In my setup I'll use to bring my digital movie database to my networked home entertainment location without having a massive box next to my AV center.  I can now place a capable, wireless networked device into my AV setup with remote control and access to my digital content - all elegantly.  Thanks AMD!!  Can anyone tell me where to get the Hiper box and ultra-low profile cooler and fan that was mentioned in the setup?  I look forward to a response from fans or the author.

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that_aznpride101 wrote :

i wonder if Intel fanboys are gonna come in here and accuse the Tom's Hardware of being biased towards AMD...
 
i'm gonna laugh so hard if that actually happens. =P
 
Go AMD! =D


 
GOLDEN SAMPLE! RETAIL VERSIONS WONT CLOCK NEARLY AS HIGH! INTEL IGP's CAN CLOCK HIGHER! ITS COMBIND WITH A CRUD CPU!
 
lol just had to :D
 
just out of interest, will retails work so well? and what about with extra cooling? and i wonder about power consumption, increases, comparing to a similar card?
 
This is somewhere where nvidia has nothing...


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This article contains a BIG LIE about Intel's G35 chipset !!
As you can see here http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/G35/index.htm G35 HAS High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) with HDCP "supporting all HD formats including 720p, 1080i and 1080p." and HDMI 5.1-Audio !!! Also it can play Blu-ray / HD DVD whithout any problems using hardware acceleration (with PowerDVD Ultra) at Full HD (1080p).How I know this ? Because I own an ASUS P5E-V HDMI http://www.asus.com/products.aspx? [...] odelmenu=1 !!!
So the "...table compares the integrated graphics units of AMD's 690G, 780G and 780V chipsets, as well as Intel's G33 and G35." it's WRONG !!!
I'm "Tom's hardware" fan but this article it's disappointing at least !
P.S. What about the 780G's Southbridge in comparison with intel's ICHR 8/9 ?

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Is there any way to use hybrid crossfire with the HD 3650 (i want decent fps (690G sux at 108p/i))


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^ that's the same question I want to ask...
 
is 3650 compatible with hybrid crossfire?

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Regarding the BACKPANEL COAXIAL DIGITAL OUT, I think that you'd have one available to you if you added a suggested ATI Radeon HD 3450 card for about $65. Then you'd have your hybrid Crossfire too, albeit sort of a baby Crossfire. . . .
 
But I'm just learning, guys, so somebody might want to check that out to see if it's right.

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amdfangirl wrote :

Is there any way to use hybrid crossfire with the HD 3650 (i want decent fps (690G sux at 108p/i))


 
No it's not. To make hybrid Crossfire work, the discrete GPU must match the IGP in capabilities, otherwise the discrete card clocks down and underperforms. The bundles at Newegg for 780G boards and discrete GPU's have 2400xt's and 3450's. The 3470 works as well.
 
Once I get my PC (and my wife's) fully upgraded, I plan on building an HTPC to go with a new HD LCD TV this fall. The ideal HTPC would be:
 
Phenom 9150 (65nm 1.8 gigahertz, the 9600 has been announced, I'm sure they'll be a B3 version later).
780G board
HD 3470 GPU for hybrid Crossfire
TV Wonder 650  
2 gigs DDR2
1 terabyte 7200rpm drive
Bluray drive
Antec 500 watt True Power 2 (legacy, we have one of those less than a year old)
A legacy Yellow Kitty case
 
Here's the legacy Yellow Kitty case, it would look really kawaii next to the TV:
http://www.atxcases.com/Cases/kitty.htm
 
Our son liked the Yellow Kitty case as a preschooler, but now has an Inwin F430 case that's much cooler, because it's a sportscar: http://www.in-win.us/f430/f430.html  My wife's waiting on the Inwin Gundam, but I felt the Antec Nine Hundred was best for cooling.
 
What I really wanted to see is a new HD 3000 series All in Wonder card, but AMD ditched any future AIW. We used an AIW Radeon 9800 Pro for years to record TV, and it worked as a decent gaming card for it's day. I actually started playing Oblivion at medium settings with one. I'm sure it still works, but the AGP board died and who wants to buy another one? Not me. AGP products should R.I.P. and not return like a comic zombie from a ROTLD movie.
 


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mercury_22 wrote :

This article contains a BIG LIE about Intel's G35 chipset !!
As you can see here http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/G35/index.htm G35 HAS High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) with HDCP "supporting all HD formats including 720p, 1080i and 1080p." and HDMI 5.1-Audio !!! Also it can play Blu-ray / HD DVD whithout any problems using hardware acceleration (with PowerDVD Ultra) at Full HD (1080p).How I know this ? Because I own an ASUS P5E-V HDMI http://www.asus.com/products.aspx? [...] odelmenu=1 !!!
So the "...table compares the integrated graphics units of AMD's 690G, 780G and 780V chipsets, as well as Intel's G33 and G35." it's WRONG !!!
I'm "Tom's hardware" fan but this article it's disappointing at least !
P.S. What about the 780G's Southbridge in comparison with intel's ICHR 8/9 ?

Heres another article , and before you go all Intel on me, just remember this IS the graphics forum  
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] i=3258&p=8


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I just ordered the ECS board with 780G and AMD X2 4000+ as the best low budget bang/buck upgrade for my friends dead comp (which was using single core 3400+ and integrated 6150LE). Also going from 1GB to 2GB mem. This should be a HUGE upgrade for him. Can't wait to tinker with it!

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great price on that ecs board. i'm gonna put 8gb adata ddr2-800, phenom 2.2ghz and vista x64. also putting on 2 visiontec pcie x1 tv tuners, an intel pro lan card connected to an 8 port linksys gigabit switch, a wireless-n card, 5 seagate sata 500gb drives, and 2 samsung ide dvd burners. my media center pc is going to rock.

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