Last message on previous page: Thats true, it does perform well. But thats not solving the heat issue, nor the pricing issue. I think that if the next gen comes anywheres close to this card, we will have a winner. Im glad sli/cf is doing so well, cause eventually were heading somewhat in that direction anyways. And the next gen? Cant wait to see em in sli/cf heheh I do think that 2 GTXs in sli will outperform the gx2, all being the 9xxx series
Message edited by jaydeejohn on 03-21-2008 at 08:45:45 AM
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Every artist is a cannibal,every poet is a thief,they all kill their inspiration then sing about their grief
Well, I went out and got 2 GTS's. I'm pretty happy. But I need a new mobo. I think. I have a dreaded 590 board. It's solid and stable, but can't overclock worth a damn. But I noticed SLI would not work for most of my games. But what's weird is that I had 2 7800GTX's on this board once. And it worked fine in SLI. I did reformat and I started loading games and it seems portal runs in sli when i did not before. So it may have been the fact that I had upgraded so many times on the same install. Who knows. I do know that crysis did not use sli. When i forced it, the performacne dropped drastically. I have not reloaded it yet. We'll see.
To give you an idea.
I ran the performance test on the lost planet demo and got 56.9 fps in the snow and 49.5 fps in the cave scene.
settings:
1920x1200
4xAA
16xAA
WinXP
All settings maxed
Vsyn-c on
It was nVidias CEO that wouldnt budge. He was the cause of the non merger, or a big part of it. The same one that said he doesnt like X2 gpus .
I do wonder what would have happened had Nvidia and AMD merged. Nvidia has so many fans that they had enough cash to bail AMD out and fund future research. If AMD had "bought" Nvidia, rather then the other way around, AMD would be in a worse situation today.
As is, I'm glad they didn't because I like supporting the innovative CPU underdog while also supporting my favorite GPU company. If only there were gamer competitive AIW cards. I really don't like just using a TV Wonder. Some of us want our computers to do virtually everything well. It's not just a HTPC or a gaming rig (though the situation's forcing me to build an HTPC).
I'm glad AMD bought ATI. Besides great GPU's, ATI had better chipsets than Nvidia. Plus Crossfire scales better and should become the de facto standard that Intel adopts for their discrete GPU's. The way it's going, without their own version of Swift, Nvidia will really have to rely upon a fanboy market to buy Nvidia SLI boards plus Nvidia cards with AMD CPU's, since Intel hasn't licensed their next generation to Nvidia yet.
Thats true, it does perform well. But thats not solving the heat issue, nor the pricing issue. I think that if the next gen comes anywheres close to this card, we will have a winner. Im glad sli/cf is doing so well, cause eventually were heading somewhat in that direction anyways. And the next gen? Cant wait to see em in sli/cf heheh I do think that 2 GTXs in sli will outperform the gx2, all being the 9xxx series
Oh yeah, I agree with you there. Given other current options the price is terrible. I have never liked this sandwich design either, even if it has been refined. And I'd much rather see one GPU offering this level of performance too.
Message edited by pauldh on 03-21-2008 at 02:16:18 PM
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I do wonder what would have happened had Nvidia and AMD merged.
AH, don't even suggest that. We would need Intel to get serious in discrete graphics or we would never see the kind of bargains out there like today and progress would crawl toward a halt. I love this competion, there are some pretty amazing cards throughout the $50-250 range. I'm looking forward to the HD3850/3870 price cuts to pass on to us.
^Yea, its a shame they want $100 just so it it wont compete with the X2. They got us coming and going. If you have a SLI mobo, its $100 more, if you dont, it isnt the same performer, and still overpriced
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Every artist is a cannibal,every poet is a thief,they all kill their inspiration then sing about their grief
As for Bargains, nothing ATI/AMD nor nVidia do will compete with consoles.
I don't know about that. We already have a $110 card (8800GS) that's more powerful than the console GPU's. And, by the time these consoles get replaced, their GPU's will be the equivilent of a sub $50 card at the very best. PC GPU's keep moving forward, consoles stand still for years until the next release. The $50(AR) HD2600XT can already play COD4 at max details and at the same or higher native res vs the consoles 600P.
And yes, while we spend more on hardware with the PC, we spend less on software. Most PC games can be found on sale for $40 the week they are released while the console versions are full price at $60. And then good PC games hit the bargain bin alot quicker too. With consoles it seems to take alot longer for the non-crap ones to hit bargain prices. Example, what's the latest great 360 or PS3 title you've bought for $10? I picked up BF2142, NFS:Carbon, Battle for ME II, Supreme Commander, and Race07 for $10 or less each in the last month. And I got a couple copies of the Witcher for free, one with a $45 Video Card. Nothing to do with ATI/NVidia, but still factors in when talking PC vs Console gaming bargains.
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MSI P6N SLI Platinum, Q6600, 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC8000, SLI BFG 8800GT OC 512MB, SB X-Fi Fatality, Antec TruePower Trio 550W, Windows XP pro
Not a huge difference between these too, and even MAYBE ( i cant say for 100% because the real benchs arent out) a 8800GTX cant beat a 9800GTX in higher resolutions
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The Great Koroosh
The 8800GTX has the extra memory to support higher levels of AA at higher resolutions. I think we are hitting the point where the memory available on a video card needs to be increased. Whats the point of putting 512MBs on a high end video card thats designed to run at 2500x1600? I'll grant you at this res there isn't much point in using AA, but having one gig would be nice.
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Looks like I'll invest in a 780i board and go SLI with my GTS'.
You may go SLI with your 8800GTS, but two 9800GX2 is like having four 8800GTS's ($1200) if you can get a high enough OC. My opinion is wait for the new tech that Nvidia will release in end of 2008-2009, my bet is November 2009 .
Fantastic.. as Mrsbytch has so eloquently put down.. Did you get it horse style from the rear or did they at least put you bear naked in with the (in season) gorillas?
I have an important point to make on the subject of allowing Nvidia to pass off their remaining wafer inventory and rebranding it under the umbrella of a hyped up marketing plan designed to maximize shareholder value whilst taking advantage of their existing customer base..
It is important for those who have currently and through our hard work purchased a fine GPU specimen from the Nvidia 8800 line to thoroughly examine exactly how Nvidia's marketing department decided that '08 was to be the ye
AH, don't even suggest that. We would need Intel to get serious in discrete graphics or we would never see the kind of bargains out there like today and progress would crawl toward a halt. I love this competion, there are some pretty amazing cards throughout the $50-250 range. I'm looking forward to the HD3850/3870 price cuts to pass on to us.
