Actually I was also thinking doing a Home-Made Ductwork, my case did not come with one.
I have to figurate out which Material I could use to be light enough but rigide, and how to fix it on the side panel.
Any recommendation?
PaxeSalute, I looked at the selection on Tigerdirect and found two ZEROtherms that are good, the Nirvana being very good. Both coolers use a backplate, which is what you want IMO.
ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU Cooler Side fan moved to outside - Better Cooler.
AnandTech: ZEROtherm Nirvana Review
God! readding a bunch of reviews make me more indecisive on which one to order!!!!
What I saw is that mostly of the HSF once mounted do not point the air flow to the back of the case, it was my understanding that it will be the best set position for any good HSF since the hot air will be evacuated out of the box almost inmediatly by the Back case fan.
I suppose this position is due that a 90 degres rotation position the HSF won't fit any more with the PSU or first PCI-ex 16 Slot.
Sorry Zorg to be such a pain of questionning everything, may be as Dagger wrote I shouldn't worry so much, but you know before spendy more money on my PC, I'd like to be sure it will be the best choice for my Climat Mexican situation and no way to RMA any part I purchase that won't fit or fix my temp problems.
Thks again
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Actually I was also thinking doing a Home-Made Ductwork, my case did not come with one.
I have to figurate out which Material I could use to be light enough but rigide, and how to fix it on the side panel.
Any recommendation?
If you want to go fancy, PVC pipe and a PVC drain cap. You can use the trim around the drain to screw into the fan. May get heavy though as most caps will be for schedule 40 PVC and that is heavy pipe. If you could use the thinner PVC it would be better.
But honestly, I would start CHEAP and see if you get the desired results. No need to spend money just for testing. Take a plastic soda bottle, cut the top & bottom off, and then fold a lip over on the top to screw into the inside screw holes of the case fan. You may have to leave some of the rounded top just for sizing. Use a little tape to cover holes and hold it better if need be. This costs almost nothing and should at least give you an idea if it lowers temps. I did it one time with a two liter bottle and it worked very well. And considering it was my system and no acrylic panel I didn't need to paint it or change it for looks. I actually save dead case fans as the frame comes in handy for mounting purposes (4 holes on each side ready for case fan screws). Of course the wires/connectors come in handy too.
And the plastic tops around a CD-R spindle can be cut out, drilled, and mounted as ductwork too. Again, just try something free then later make it fancy if you are happy with the temps.
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Here are a couple quick examples of what I was talking about. 2 liter bottle took me under 5 minutes including drinking the remaining lemonade. Just needs to be mounted to the frame and trimmed better.
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The soda bottle may interfere with fan blades if you aren't careful so it would be better to mount the spare frame to your frame. But a CD-R spindle cover is rigid and could be mounted to your fan itself instead of a spare fan frame. Here is a 80mm fan frame on it. You can see how easy it would be to mark it and mount a 80-92mm fan on it with screws and cutout the middle. This actually works well for 120mm fans, but the mount is trickier.
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My typical process of buying a CPU cooler :
Read reviews...
Ponder for a week...
Make measurements...
Create scale model from cardboard...
Measure everything again...
Discard all measurements and trust blind luck it will fit...
Order cooler...
Break spleen installing cooler...
Figure out the old cooler was better...
Figure out important detail about new cooler...
Dance victory dance...
TRUE+SFF21F in CM STC-T01 :
Q6600 @ 3.0GHz : 1.24375V
Prime95 FPU test (maximum heat)
open case peak 56/56/52/48°C ...
closed case peak 48/48/46/42°C ...
Victory tastes sweet.
Hey I am almost on the stage to order the ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 with Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound at Newegg.com through a friend in Miami. Total will cost me 58.97 shipment included, in DirectTiger only the ZEROtherm will have costed me 74 usd.
Any bad comment about NEWEGG or it has good reputation amoung you?
Hey I am almost on the stage to order the ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 with Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound at Newegg.com through a friend in Miami. Total will cost me 58.97 shipment included, in DirectTiger only the ZEROtherm will have costed me 74 usd. Any bad comment about NEWEGG or it has good reputation amoung you?
Newegg is one of the best online retailers for components. I brought my entire system there.
My typical process of buying a CPU cooler :
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Break spleen installing cooler...
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Aha - I see your problem! Since the spleen is down in your abdomen, the only way it can be damaged is by strong impacts to that region of your body. Are you perhaps doing full body-slams onto your cooler in order to attach it to the MB?
Hey I am almost on the stage to order the ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 with Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound at Newegg.com through a friend in Miami. Total will cost me 58.97 shipment included, in DirectTiger only the ZEROtherm will have costed me 74 usd.
Any bad comment about NEWEGG or it has good reputation amoung you?
I only used Tiger direct because I thought you were going to order direct. If your friend is going to order from Newegg then you can order from anywhere and you have more choices. Don't order it, if you have not already, and we will give you other choices.
One thing I'd like to mention is, if you go with the choices Zorg mention (which are good HSF), I'd recommend that you take the side fan off regardless (even if you do have room). Simply because it will hinder the airflow design for those HS, which works from air movement from the front to the back.
Now the ChillTec Thermo I linked, was just an example of a different method of cooling, Peltier Cooling. It may not perform better compared to other HS at a certain ambient temp. Not I haven't myself tried a peltier, but I kinda wonder if that type of cooling could perhaps do better in 80F+ conditions?
I mean, if your going to supply hot air for a reg HSF, your results are not going to be what you want.
Anyhoo... You have allot of peeps also giving ya good advice.
I only used Tiger direct because I thought you were going to order direct. If your friend is going to order from Newegg then you can order from anywhere and you have more choices. Don't order it, if you have not already, and we will give you other choices.
Post back if you haven't ordered it.
Zorg, I haven't order yet, I'm gone try the Home-made Ductwork first to see if temps get a bit better and allow me to use my PC for a month to save some bucks.
With the Side Panel blowing in when I played COD4 my temp was before 62 to 64 and now it does not go over 59c (with Air conditionning on to get 24 celsius (75 Fahrenheit) ambient room instead of 29 celsius (84 Fah.) without A.C.. so I hope to be able to drop 2 to 3 degres more if I put Ductwork to get outside box air flow direct on the HSF. Evenso I will still have to switch on Room Air conditionning to have an ambient temp arround 24, and electricity is not cheap in Mexico as people could believe.
So I will definetly get an Aftermarket HSF to stop my Electricity Bill jumping to the sky every months.
Now do you think that even with a good HFS, I will be able to keep my Cores' Temps under 50 with 29 room temp (it's only 21 degres leeway) . And I am not speaking yet about doing OC, which I'd like to do once I've got the Aftermarket HSF.
Thks a lot Zorg,
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One thing I'd like to mention is, if you go with the choices Zorg mention (which are good HSF), I'd recommend that you take the side fan off regardless (even if you do have room). Simply because it will hinder the airflow design for those HS, which works from air movement from the front to the back.
Thks Grimmy, for the Tip on Side Panel Fan once I'll install Aftermarket HSF.
Actually I was thinking to use it to help evacuate GPU hot air, reversing Fan to expell air out with a workduct direct to the Video Card. Am I dreaming!!!!
Thks Grimmy, for the Tip on Side Panel Fan once I'll install Aftermarket HSF.
Actually I was thinking to use it to help evacuate GPU hot air, reversing Fan to expell air out with a workduct direct to the Video Card. Am I dreaming!!!!
Tks again for your advises.
Well... the problem that I see your going to run into, you have a rear exhaust which close to the side fan. To me, you will have some kind of airflow distortion, one fan trying to do one thing, while the other does the opposite. Then the HS fan which is working with the rear exhaust. If the side fan was lower, you could hook of a type of fan controller to turn that on when needed, since that is what I do.
But with that side fan being pretty much in the same place as the tower HS, I think your best off with it off.
When you get your HS, just try out different things to see what works best for ya. Even if you can find something better for your video card to push hot air out of the rear slot, like (Edit: as an example):
Just take note on how the fans work with airflow. If you simply put a bunch of fans in a case, not taking airflow path in consideration, your not going to get hot air out of the case at a good rate.
Message edited by Grimmy on 04-22-2008 at 06:59:07 PM
(Qty 2) Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm Case Fan (1 Front Case IN down part front of HDD, 1 Back Case OUT to replace the original cas one, that I feel, doesn't move much air)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185006
Any bad thought about some of these products? Total will cost me with UPS, 129.47 USD + a good Restaurant dinner to my friend from Miami when he brings me those in Mexico , Is this a good and effective deal?
Hope I will be able to OC a bit.
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Looks good. There are case fans that move even more air, although the one you listed should be good enough. Keep in mind more airflow also means more noise.
This one is rated at 133.6 CFM, compared to your 63.7 CFM, which basically means one of those fan moves more air than two of yours. It'll sound like a vaccum cleaner though. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185054
Slot fans are not very useful, unless they blow directly at the graphics card, which will decrease its temperature.
Memory chip fans are not useful if you ram isn't highly oced and don't run hot.
The cpu cooler should be one of the best, if not the one. Heavy heatsink, large fin surface area, and 84.7 CFM airflow is top of the line. I use it.
This one is also very good. Its heatsink is lighter and fin surface area is smaller, but boasts higher max airflow, and should perform on par with the other one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003
Just needs to be mounted to the frame and trimmed better.
